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| up_the_irons | Level 3 circuit is __alllmooost__ up | [00:24] |
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| brycec | m0unds: what was that weechat script/setting for the hiding of join/quits (except for active speakers)?
(I remember it had smart in the name... but it's also closing on 2am) | [01:38] |
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| mercutio | up_the_irons: is there a problem with it?
mercutio doesn't get why it'd be almost up :) | [05:56] |
| m0unds | brycec: http://weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_user.en.html#irc_smart_filter_join_part_quit | [06:02] |
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| brycec | Thanks m0unds :) | [08:12] |
| mhoran | That's an awesome feature.
I just turned it on myself. | [08:14] |
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| up_the_irons | mercutio: just not done with the config
but there *was* a problem. had them make some VLAN ID changes (which took forever it seemed) and in the process they musta put my port somewhere else, or just rolled the fiber for no reason. cuz it was up b4 the change, but after it was down/down. Had grepidemic roll the fiber last night and that fixed it (up/up). | [12:34] |
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| m0unds | connection between the inlet and expansion tank on my water heater failed right as i was pulling out of the garage | [13:24] |
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| brycec | I bet that was a spectacular sight. | [14:12] |
| m0unds | yeah, i couldn't tell where the water was coming from because it looked like it was coming from everywhere
shut it off, didn't see anything amiss, so i turned it back on and soaked myself trying to find where it was spraying from | [14:17] |
| brycec | heh, been there | [14:28] |
| m0unds | i was slightly annoyed when i got back from home depot only to discover one side of the water inlet from the wall is soldered
it looked like it was threaded when i checked it before going, but it was soldered | [14:30] |
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| mercutio | up_the_irons: damn
up_the_irons: i always expect these thigns to take longer than they should, but they seemed to extend that a bit it's kind of like a plumber taking a long time to replace a washer in a tap sure it's not very exciting bringing up new connections, but it's part of their core business | [17:04] |
| up_the_irons | yeah | [17:18] |
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| m0unds | anyone seeing some kinda gnarly packet loss via v4?
actually, via v6 too path via nlayer looks fine, but ntt looks horrible | [20:31] |
| mercutio | my forward path to arp via ntt is fine
13. ge-0-7-0-24.r04.lsanca03.us.ce.gin.ntt.net hitting that | [20:35] |
| m0unds | hitting this: ae-3.r05.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
i'm seeing ~30-65% pkt loss | [20:36] |
| mercutio | so yeah different way in i imagine | [20:36] |
| m0unds_ | having a hard time interacting w/my ssh session on that | [20:37] |
| mercutio | do you hit lsanca19 first? | [20:37] |
| m0unds_ | doesn't appear that i do, but like i said, dropping so much traffic i can barely get keystrokes into the vm
haha | [20:37] |
| mercutio | cos it has two ntt hops for me | [20:37] |
| m0unds_ | i just have one as far as i can tell, one with rdns anyway | [20:37] |
| mercutio | hmm
well my one says ge and yours says ae | [20:37] |
| m0unds_ | nope, two | [20:38] |
| mercutio | suggesting that your link is higher speed | [20:38] |
| m0unds_ | i just wasn't getting rdns bc of the pkt loss
i have the same r04 one you do, before ae-3.r05 | [20:38] |
| mercutio | ahh i'm tracing from outside arp into arp | [20:38] |
| m0unds_ | i'm going arp out, try that | [20:38] |
| mercutio | to where? | [20:38] |
| m0unds_ | try pulse.m0unds.net | [20:38] |
| mercutio | cos for me it's only ntt to arp
nto from arp out | [20:39] |
| m0unds_ | outbound path from that host to arp is via nlayer which is really solid | [20:39] |
| mercutio | that looks fine for me
no loss at all maybe it's your host do you get packet loss everywhere? | [20:39] |
| m0unds_ | nope
just to arp | [20:39] |
| mercutio | no on arp | [20:39] |
| m0unds_ | oh | [20:39] |
| mercutio | from arp to everywhere | [20:39] |
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| m0unds_ | i was getting loss from arp -> fb arp -> google arp -> other boxes i have | [20:40] |
| mercutio | yeah
so it's most likely your node having issues or your virtual machine rather than ntt cos everything won't go over ntt like google.com is going over any2ix | [20:40] |
| m0unds_ | does your outbound path take you out s7.lax.arpnetworks.com? | [20:41] |
| mercutio | do you get packet loss to arp.meh.net.nz
which is my host on arp yeh s7 is second hop | [20:41] |
| m0unds_ | 20% | [20:41] |
| mercutio | what about loss from your home to arp.meh.net.nz? | [20:42] |
| m0unds_ | looks fine too, same path as to mine
via nlayer | [20:42] |
| mercutio | i'm on kvr15, but have no idea how to find someone else on the same kvr as you
yeh so it's node or host do you get loss to your first hop/ | [20:42] |
| m0unds_ | yeah, 8-20%
it's almost 70ms first hop | [20:43] |
| mercutio | do you know what kvr? | [20:43] |
| m0unds_ | haha
26 iirc | [20:43] |
| mercutio | wow | [20:43] |
| m0unds_ | might be 27 | [20:43] |
| mercutio | i imagine someone ddosnig probably :/
or some other annoying issue like that | [20:43] |
| acf_ | maybe check loss to the kvr itself?
kvr10.arpnetworks.com | [20:44] |
| mercutio | how do you nkow he's on kvr1)?
10 | [20:44] |
| m0unds_ | yea, trying to do that now | [20:44] |
| mercutio | but that's a good idea | [20:44] |
| m0unds_ | i think he was just giving a for instance
haha | [20:44] |
| mercutio | oh right | [20:44] |
| m0unds_ | god, this is horrible | [20:44] |
| mercutio | yeah i wondered if i'd missed something
just test from home don't try weathering that kind of loss | [20:44] |
| m0unds_ | home's fine regardless | [20:45] |
| mercutio | you'll go crazy
but testing to kvr10 etc | [20:45] |
| m0unds_ | yeah | [20:45] |
| mercutio | you can't test from arp | [20:45] |
| m0unds_ | it's fine | [20:45] |
| mercutio | but are you on kvr10? | [20:45] |
| m0unds_ | home -> arp is fine
no i tested to 26 | [20:45] |
| mercutio | which kvr are you on? | [20:45] |
| m0unds_ | which is where i am
or 27 i tested both hah | [20:45] |
| mercutio | ahh | [20:45] |
| m0unds_ | a | [20:45] |
| mercutio | maybe you shoudl try rebooting? | [20:45] |
| m0unds_ | i don't think it's my vm | [20:45] |
| mercutio | in case your vm in a state
then wyh's it fine to kvr26? | [20:45] |
| m0unds_ | i can reach the vm fine from home, no packet loss | [20:45] |
| mercutio | oh | [20:46] |
| m0unds_ | it's only on the return path | [20:46] |
| mercutio | try remote desktop?
err vnc oh it's fine from home | [20:46] |
| m0unds_ | yeah | [20:46] |
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| mercutio | it's just screwed from other places? | [20:46] |
| m0unds_ | only outlier is work is via ntt
home is via nlayer and is fine work is screwed up and other vm i tried is via ntt and is screwed up but yours was fine hahaha | [20:46] |
| mercutio | and is work screwed up to other arp hosts? | [20:46] |
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| mercutio | well ntt definitely do have load balancing of a kind | [20:47] |
| acf_ | hmm... really high latencies to kvr27 | [20:47] |
| mercutio | ae is aggregated ethernet | [20:47] |
| acf_ | and some loss | [20:47] |
| mercutio | which means that they're using a bundle of more than one ethernet interface | [20:47] |
| acf_ | 2. kvr27.arpnetworks.com 5.3% 19 36.2 20.2 0.1 60.6 24.1 | [20:47] |
| m0unds_ | i'm fine to the host you linked mercutio - arp.meh.net.nz | [20:47] |
| mercutio | wow i have really high pings to kvr27 too | [20:47] |
| m0unds_ | wait
8% now hahaha | [20:47] |
| mercutio | it's fine tothe hop immediately before
and it's fine to kvr26 | [20:48] |
| m0unds_ | yeah, who knows | [20:48] |
| mercutio | acf: are you on kvr27 or were you just trying randon numbers? | [20:48] |
| acf_ | mounds_ mentioned kvr27 earlier so I mtr'd it | [20:49] |
| m0unds_ | i mentioned 26 and 27 - wasn't sure which one i'm on | [20:49] |
| mercutio | oh
i thought you said 26 damn i erally aren't reading properly oh i see you said 26 iirc :) | [20:49] |
| m0unds_ | i'm on 27 | [20:49] |
| mercutio | i assume you're on kvr27 then | [20:49] |
| m0unds_ | yeah | [20:49] |
| mercutio | and kvr27 is having issues
cool. | [20:49] |
| m0unds_ | i just confirmed it - had to drop my tunnel to get to the site | [20:50] |
| mercutio | well maybe up_the_irons is around? | [20:50] |
| m0unds_ | tunneled to home, but that's trying to reach arp via v6
which is hosed | [20:50] |
| mercutio | and can check it out | [20:50] |
| m0unds_ | hahaha | [20:50] |
| mercutio | he was aronud earlier sometime i think
3 and a half hours ago | [20:50] |
| m0unds_ | on an utterly unrelated note, i upgraded my kvm box at home to 14.04
my avg cpu load w/the same guests dropped like mad | [20:51] |
| mercutio | have you tried spice? | [20:51] |
| m0unds_ | not yet
i remembered you mentioning it | [20:51] |
| mercutio | i tried spice onlocal network
i was blown away | [20:51] |
| m0unds_ | i was originally running a win2k8 vm by itself, and saw ~1.1 load avg with other svcs | [20:51] |
| mercutio | way faster than windows remote desktop
impressed me :) and windows remote desktop is way faste than vnc | [20:51] |
| m0unds_ | same svcs, with asterisk in a new vm + the same win2k8 one and my load avg is ~.2 or lower
not sure what changed, but it's much more responsive in the guests | [20:52] |
| mercutio | i do have infiniband though
so low latency / high bandwidth | [20:52] |
| m0unds_ | mine's just raid 10 (2x2) old-ish sas disks | [20:52] |
| mercutio | actually that reminds me i have more ram to stick on my server so i can stick kvm on it again
i have zfs on 3 ssds | [20:52] |
| m0unds_ | time to head home from work, bbiab | [20:53] |
| mercutio | fwiw amazon are pretty cheap for ssds
and ssd's use way less power than sas hard-disks | [20:53] |
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| mercutio | hmm i thought virtualisation wasn't recommended for voip | [20:54] |
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| m0unds_ | havent ever had an issue with kvm or xen based vms on good hosts
ssds would be great, but i already have the sas disks and spares if i build a new virt box, i'll definitely use ssds though | [21:32] |
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| m0unds | finally able to look at my local smokeping graphs
looks like it started at around 20:25 and stopped at around 22:30ish http://i.imgur.com/d59oHN2.png ordinarily, very, very stable haha | [21:49] |
| mercutio | well it's good if you dont' need lots of storage
sas don't give you lots of storage anyway though | [21:52] |
| m0unds | my sas disks are only 250gb
my windows vm has a 60GB disk img and my asterisk box has 30gb that's it | [21:52] |
| mercutio | i use zfs compression | [21:55] |
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| mnathani | can spice be used to replace windows remote desktop? also what is spice
@google spice remote desktop | [23:04] |
| BryceBot | 230,000 total results returned for 'spice remote desktop', here's 3
SPICE (protocol) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPICE_(protocol)) In computing, SPICE (the Simple Protocol for Independent Computing ... A SPICE client connection to a remote desktop server consists of multiple data channels ... Spice - Home page (http://www.spice-space.org/) The Spice project aims to provide a complete open source solution for interaction with virtualized desktop devices.The Spice ... For this purpose, Red Hat introduced the SPICE remote computing protocol that is used for Spice client- server ... Red Hat | SPICE in Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization for Desktops (http://www.redhat.com/resourcelibrary/articles/rhev-desktops-spice) SPICE is an open source, adaptive remote rendering protocol used to provide a true PC-like experience in Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization for Desktops. | [23:05] |
| milki | whoa
that was fast spice sounds like a simulator | [23:05] |
| mnathani | seems like its linux only though
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. http://www.spice-space.org/download.html ^^ Anyone try: http://remotedesktopmanager.com/ | [23:05] |
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| mnathani | @google spice on ubuntu | [23:51] |
| BryceBot | 113,000 total results returned for 'spice on ubuntu', here's 3
spice - Ubuntu Wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/spice) We are currently pushing the packages needed for spice-enabled qemu from ppa :serge-hallyn/spice2. However, there are newer spice packages upstream, and ... Ubuntu – Details of package python-spice-client-gtk in precise (http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/python-spice-client-gtk) GTK2 widget for SPICE clients (Python binding) ... Other Packages Related to python-spice-client-gtk. depends. recommends. suggests. dep: libc6 (>= 2.2.5) ... virtualization - libvirt with SPICE on 12.04 amd64 - Ask Ubuntu (http://askubuntu.com/questions/202067/libvirt-with-spice-on-12-04-amd64) Oct 17, 2012 ... I'm using 12.04 LTS amd64 as a KVM host + desktop. I have a Windows 7 ultimate 64bit guest on this host. The installation worked perfect with ... | [23:51] |
| mercutio | mnathani: spice is like vnc, but non sucky
the client i used was kind of sucky but was functional enough and supported vnc too | [23:54] |
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