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| mnathani | brycec: k, thanks | [02:19] |
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| jpalmer | brycec: if you build a co-co, you can stick it all inside a 3' piece of PVC. mount it to something like a rain gutter, to the least visible side of your house. | [05:42] |
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| *** | anis is now known as anisfarhana
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| anisfarhana | Hello everyone | [06:30] |
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| m0unds | jpalmer: it's indoors for the moment. it's also super directional because of that. too much house on the south and east sides of it, so most of the aircraft are north/west | [07:19] |
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| jpalmer | anisfarhana: hello
m0unds: ahh. yeah, 1090Mhz is fairly line of sight. | [08:44] |
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| plett | jpalmer: I also have a DVB tuner which I have used as an ADS-B receiver. It's not hooked up at the moment, and I want to get a little discone on the roof for it
So that makes 4 in this channel :) | [10:23] |
| sjackso | phlux: I'm late on responding, but I've been running a jabber server (from arp!) for a handful of weeks | [10:24] |
| plett | My region is well covered for ADS-B receivers though, I'm about 30 miles from LHR | [10:25] |
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| jpalmer | plett: nice. didn't realize you were into it too.
apparently, planespotting is pretty popular among ARPNetworks customers. maybe we should convince garry to put up an ads-b reciever at his location :P | [11:32] |
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| up_the_irons | i've also used ejabberd many times
i don't care that it is erlang, i just want it to run and work and not be a headache to set up | [12:48] |
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| hazardous | what is planespotting
is that like trainspotting | [13:33] |
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| brycec | There's an app, and it's the process of watching planes (radar, etc)
@google planespotting | [14:21] |
| BryceBot | 261,000 total results returned for 'planespotting', here's 3
Aircraft spotting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_spotting) Aircraft spotting or plane spotting is the observation, photographing aircraft, and logging of the registration numbers of aircraft: gliders, powered aircraft, balloons, ... Planespotting (http://www.reddit.com/r/Planespotting/) A little different style of plane spotting. ... Parade of Heavy Airliners - 20+ Minutes of Plane Spotting [HD] - Chicago O'Hare International (youtube.com). submitted ... Spotter – Wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotter) Das Beobachten und Fotografieren von Flugzeugen (Planespotting) wird überwiegend in unmittelbarer Nähe eines Flughafens betrieben. Meistens wird ... | [14:21] |
| brycec | (or maybe the app is planeplotter) | [14:21] |
| jpalmer | hazardous: in this case, it's quite literally.. spotting nearby planes. | [14:24] |
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| phlux | haha
sjackso: mind a PM? | [16:23] |
| sjackso | phlux: sure | [16:32] |
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| jpalmer | phlux: secrets don't make friends. I'm now officially offended, and stuff. | [16:43] |
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goodwill has left "+++ OK ATH OK" | [16:43] |
| phlux | we're trying to figure out how to ddos you
but i'm not going to tell you that! | [16:50] |
| jpalmer | it's ok, your secret is safe. I IRC from arpnetworks, so you'd be ddosing yourself too! | [16:50] |
| phlux | back to the drawing board
maybe we'll go to up_the_irons's house and ddos him irl | [16:51] |
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| jpalmer | quick poll, and I am actually looking for serious answers. At what age, would you try to teach a kid (who was interested) in "IP" and things related. ie, what subnets are, and what they do (not the math to calculate a subnet) | [20:07] |
| milki | starting with something abstract? o.O
what have you tried teaching so far? | [20:17] |
| jpalmer | well, nothing. we're working ona community thing for kids who are interested in technology and computers.. ages 7 - 18 I'm thinking about teaching the networking part, and trying to guage at what ages, such a thing may actually make sense. | [20:18] |
| milki | o, so they've already expressed interest
hmm | [20:19] |
| jpalmer | yes, this is something they'd have to actually sign up for, outside of schoole and such.
it'd be free, but they'd have to sign up, and make arrangements to get there. | [20:19] |
| milki | i think it depends on how you teach it
if you can bring it down from an abstract idea to something they can actively construct themselves and play with, then you can teach it at a younger age otherwise, it depends on if they can grasp abstract ideas | [20:19] |
| jpalmer | well, some of the ideas are to do things that make sense to them, and make it fun. for instance, explaining what a subnet is used for and such.. then give them activities to reinforce it, and make it fun
like: explain how a local subnet can allow 2 computers in the same network to communicate with each other. then equate it with multiplayer games.. then let them configure the networking on 2 machines, and play a multiplayer game against each other (settings provided, so they don't have to do the math) little things like that | [20:21] |
| milki | hm, teaching from a practical point of view rather than theoretical then | [20:23] |
| jpalmer | well, the curriculum would be voted on by the board. so, it's just a set of ideas I'm thinking of presenting for vote. | [20:24] |
| milki | i dont have a good idea and the level of children per age group -.-
er, skill/educational/whatnot level | [20:24] |
| jpalmer | but in the example above.. I'm not sure if a 7 year old would get it. maybe like 10.. (in which case, I have to pick the "multiplayer game" accordingly. | [20:24] |
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| brycec | jpalmer: Personally, I could've used some IP knowledge right around 10
actually come to think of it, that's about when I first started fumbling around with tcpip I think I was 11 when I bought a "network starter kit" and managed to get it working, almost by sheer luck since I had no idea wtf I was doing (I had no idea why these 192.1680.x numbers worked, and things broke if I changed certain things... Man I could've saved myself so much trouble if only I had Google. | [20:55] |
| milki | google and wiki
and no windows | [21:00] |
| brycec | I can easily imagine a simple introductory curiculum, "computers can talk to each other over various wires and stuff, just like postal mail they have addresses" and start going deeper from there | [21:01] |
| jpalmer | brycec: hah. yep that is exactly where I'm intending on starting (talking about the mail, and addresses.) | [21:02] |
| staticsafe | postal system is excellent for explaining routing too
networking prof in first year used that | [21:03] |
| brycec | It's where I start when explaining basic tenets of networking | [21:03] |
| jpalmer | so, we all tend to think around 10'ish is where I target for my presentation to the committee? | [21:04] |
| brycec | Seems that way. Of course, younger gifted/interests parties are welcome | [21:05] |
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