[00:56] *** doomviki1g has joined #arpnetworks [01:04] *** pjs has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:04] *** NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:04] *** doomviking has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:04] *** CaZe has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:04] *** pcn has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:04] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:04] *** Spitfire has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:04] *** reardencode has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:04] *** mercutio has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:04] *** twobithacker has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:04] *** meingtsla has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:04] *** m0unds has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:04] *** Guest67342 has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:04] *** sjackso has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:04] *** Lucifer7 has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:04] *** plett has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:04] *** up_the_irons has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:06] *** pcn has joined #arpnetworks [01:07] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [01:07] *** Spitfire has joined #arpnetworks [01:07] *** reardencode has joined #arpnetworks [01:12] *** CaZe_ has joined #arpnetworks [01:12] *** mercutio has joined #arpnetworks [01:12] *** twobithacker has joined #arpnetworks [01:12] *** meingtsla has joined #arpnetworks [01:12] *** m0unds has joined #arpnetworks [01:12] *** Guest67342 has joined #arpnetworks [01:12] *** sjackso has joined #arpnetworks [01:12] *** Lucifer7 has joined #arpnetworks [01:12] *** plett has joined #arpnetworks [01:12] *** up_the_irons has joined #arpnetworks [01:12] *** verne.freenode.net sets mode: +o up_the_irons [01:26] *** NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks [02:09] m0unds: ah, 3 tons is large, yeah [02:09] 36K BTU i think [06:38] yeah, 12k x 3 [08:03] Does anyone here run a jabber server? [08:06] I'm looking into it and thinking about setting up a jabber network, but I have no fucking clue what I'm doing or how this is supposed to work [08:06] *** phlux1 is now known as phlux [08:46] i used to use openfire/wildfire years ago for a corporate xmpp network [08:46] i doubt that stuff exists still, and if it does, it's probably worse because it used java :) [08:46] jpalmer: http://i.imgur.com/UvEu5RK.png i need to build a coax antenna. seeing out about 75 mi w/the tiny TV ant that came w/the dongle [08:53] looks like 'ejabberd' is what to use these days [08:54] yeah [08:54] yeah [08:54] i only did openfire because it was at a site where i wasn't going to be working anymore and they wanted something with a gui [08:55] it actually got moved to that ancient fc3 box i mentioned the other day, haha [08:55] I might honestly move to ejabberd and just get away from IRC tbh [08:55] well, jabber in general [08:58] i wish more people used it [09:03] I just can't seem to figure out how to allow registration [09:08] hahaha, detected flight THUG11 (C-17A Globemaster III) [09:08] THUG [09:08] heh [09:09] yeah [09:09] hahaha [09:09] i saw it pop up and did a double take [09:09] apparently its double XP weekend in PS2 [09:09] it sure is [09:10] stupid briggs TR need to gtfo connery [09:10] they're so whiny and laggy [09:10] haha [09:10] they finally fixed briggs [09:10] yeah [09:10] the CTO of SOE posted in the subreddit [09:10] yeah [09:10] i saw that, pretty cool that he provided some detail [09:10] i always wondered how they did backend sync stuff [09:11] TR on connery ended up being the refugee faction for briggs players [09:11] *** NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [09:11] so they're all named $playerFromBriggs [09:12] DingusFromBriggs, etc [09:12] heh [09:14] but i kept getting tk'd by them, so i went VS for a bit and wrecked the TR for a bit - kdr was like 11 or something absurd :) [09:17] *** NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks [09:24] *** NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [09:27] *** NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks [09:32] *** NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [09:34] *** NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks [09:43] why ejabberd [09:43] you crazy erlang users??? [09:44] as opposed to the lua garbage that is prosody? [09:51] why not openfire [09:53] does it still exist? haha [09:53] oh, it does [09:54] wacky [09:54] http://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/index.jsp [09:54] oof, still uses java [10:08] yeah [10:08] i'd rather not use java [10:08] openfire is pretty nice, but it's fat and java [10:08] here's what I'm not liking [10:08] each client for jabber has different commands [10:08] no commands are passed to the server, it seems [10:09] so like there's no '/kick' in any client other than pidgin [10:11] huh. [10:11] I always go into Jabber thinking it's like IRC, and leave disappointed. [10:12] hahaha, it's a lot more AIM/MSN/ICQ than IRC [10:32] *** CaZe_ has quit IRC (Quit: Reconnecting) [10:33] *** CaZe has joined #arpnetworks [11:28] yeah [11:29] We need an IRC successor tbh [11:29] IRC is dying, but I don't know where the people are going [11:29] what's the "new thing" these days? [11:29] no idea [11:29] most of the people i talk to are still on irc [11:29] there's no way they're all leaving for forums/reddit.. [11:29] that's not updated real-time [11:29] i haven't used an IM client in years, but it seems like lots of people still use those [11:29] I hate having to hit refresh and wait on replies [11:30] i think w/mobile stuff being so ubiquitous that people have move towards stuff more appropriate for use on mobile [11:32] IRC attracts a certain type: people who want to chat with the same group, or about the same topic, all day. The fact that it's real time isn't the important part for many. [11:32] most of the channels i'm in aren't topical really [11:33] err, aren't really topical [11:33] The important parts of IRC for me: Channels can be created/maintained by individual personnel, and they're in real-time [11:33] Right, that's the "chat with the same group". [11:33] oh, missed the "or" the same topic [11:33] right [11:33] yeah, i think that's my use case in a nutshell [11:33] Chatting with online friends, who you may never physically meet. [11:34] That's probably a dying idea. [11:34] I suspect that IRC isn't being replaced with anything. [11:34] yeah - there are a couple on a private network i'm usually on whom i've never met, but have chatted with for 15 tears [11:34] s/tears/years [11:34] yeah - there are a couple on a private network i'm usually on whom i've never met, but have chatted with for 15 years [11:35] there's got to be something better out there [11:35] dunno. i really do like being able to run a client on a remote box and just resume it when i have time, and leave it alone when i don't [11:36] Twitter? [11:36] i've moved away from the idea of maintaining friendships with people i have no way to meet in person somewhat [11:36] but still think IRC is the best communication medium we came up with so far [11:38] IRC is not dying, it died :) it's actually picking up again now, isnt it ? [11:38] yea, lots more private networks and stuff [11:38] smaller public networks too [11:41] seems abuse is quite a bit more prevalent too [11:43] I cannot imagine what could replace IRC. The logistics of moving every programmer over to a new chat protocol seems overwhelming. [11:44] not to mention how resistant lots of 'em are to changing stuff ;) [11:46] Oh totally; the idea of moving any one programmer to something new is overwhelming. [11:50] haha, streaming data to flightradar24 [11:51] fun fun [11:51] silc looks promising [11:53] doesn't appear to be any web integration, though [11:53] sad [11:54] There's an irssi plugin and Pidgin/Colloquy support, according to Wiki. [11:54] yeah, but nothing that'd work like http://webchat.ewnix.net/ [11:55] http://silky.sourceforge.net/ - "Project closed". [12:33] so I'm going to say [12:34] there's no real alternative for IRC as far as having integrated webchat AND being able to use a client is concerned. [13:16] *** CaZe has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [13:16] *** NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [13:32] *** NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks [14:23] *** CaZe has joined #arpnetworks [16:05] is there a free jabber service? [16:05] or jabber network [16:24] Is jabber.org still around? You used to just be able to register on that. [16:32] it is still around but registrations are closed iirc [17:47] it's quite easy to run your own, i think there's quite a few free ones around though [17:47] i think like there was a new zealand one for instance :) [17:48] http://www.jabber.co.nz/about/ [17:49] like looks liek you can get that for free [17:49] staticsafe@jabber.org if anyone wants to add me [17:49] it's pretty easy to do your own server too [17:50] http://www.jabberes.org/servers/ [17:50] this may be of use to you [18:18] there are lots of free jabber services, arent there public server directories online? [18:19] ah i see one was just linked [19:04] *** milki has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [21:28] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [21:31] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Client Quit) [21:46] *** milki has joined #arpnetworks [23:08] mnathani: dukgo has free Jabber/XMPP too [23:10] (aka DuckDuckGo, aka ddg) [23:11] https://duck.co/blog/using-pidgin-with-xmpp-jabber