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NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: m0unds: ah, 3 tons is large, yeah
36K BTU i think m0unds: yeah, 12k x 3 phlux1: Does anyone here run a jabber server?
I'm looking into it and thinking about setting up a jabber network, but I have no fucking clue what I'm doing or how this is supposed to work ***: phlux1 is now known as phlux m0unds: i used to use openfire/wildfire years ago for a corporate xmpp network
i doubt that stuff exists still, and if it does, it's probably worse because it used java :)
jpalmer: http://i.imgur.com/UvEu5RK.png i need to build a coax antenna. seeing out about 75 mi w/the tiny TV ant that came w/the dongle phlux: looks like 'ejabberd' is what to use these days staticsafe: yeah m0unds: yeah
i only did openfire because it was at a site where i wasn't going to be working anymore and they wanted something with a gui
it actually got moved to that ancient fc3 box i mentioned the other day, haha phlux: I might honestly move to ejabberd and just get away from IRC tbh
well, jabber in general m0unds: i wish more people used it phlux: I just can't seem to figure out how to allow registration m0unds: hahaha, detected flight THUG11 (C-17A Globemaster III) staticsafe: THUG
heh m0unds: yeah
hahaha
i saw it pop up and did a double take staticsafe: apparently its double XP weekend in PS2 m0unds: it sure is
stupid briggs TR need to gtfo connery
they're so whiny and laggy staticsafe: haha
they finally fixed briggs m0unds: yeah staticsafe: the CTO of SOE posted in the subreddit m0unds: yeah
i saw that, pretty cool that he provided some detail
i always wondered how they did backend sync stuff
TR on connery ended up being the refugee faction for briggs players ***: NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) m0unds: so they're all named $playerFromBriggs
DingusFromBriggs, etc staticsafe: heh m0unds: but i kept getting tk'd by them, so i went VS for a bit and wrecked the TR for a bit - kdr was like 11 or something absurd :) ***: NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks
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you crazy erlang users??? staticsafe: as opposed to the lua garbage that is prosody? hazardous: why not openfire m0unds: does it still exist? haha
oh, it does
wacky
http://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/index.jsp
oof, still uses java phlux: yeah
i'd rather not use java m0unds: openfire is pretty nice, but it's fat and java phlux: here's what I'm not liking
each client for jabber has different commands
no commands are passed to the server, it seems
so like there's no '/kick' in any client other than pidgin m0unds: huh. mike-burns: I always go into Jabber thinking it's like IRC, and leave disappointed. m0unds: hahaha, it's a lot more AIM/MSN/ICQ than IRC ***: CaZe_ has quit IRC (Quit: Reconnecting)
CaZe has joined #arpnetworks phlux: yeah
We need an IRC successor tbh
IRC is dying, but I don't know where the people are going
what's the "new thing" these days? m0unds: no idea
most of the people i talk to are still on irc phlux: there's no way they're all leaving for forums/reddit..
that's not updated real-time m0unds: i haven't used an IM client in years, but it seems like lots of people still use those phlux: I hate having to hit refresh and wait on replies m0unds: i think w/mobile stuff being so ubiquitous that people have move towards stuff more appropriate for use on mobile mike-burns: IRC attracts a certain type: people who want to chat with the same group, or about the same topic, all day. The fact that it's real time isn't the important part for many. m0unds: most of the channels i'm in aren't topical really
err, aren't really topical phlux: The important parts of IRC for me: Channels can be created/maintained by individual personnel, and they're in real-time mike-burns: Right, that's the "chat with the same group". m0unds: oh, missed the "or" the same topic
right
yeah, i think that's my use case in a nutshell mike-burns: Chatting with online friends, who you may never physically meet.
That's probably a dying idea.
I suspect that IRC isn't being replaced with anything. m0unds: yeah - there are a couple on a private network i'm usually on whom i've never met, but have chatted with for 15 tears
s/tears/years BryceBot: <m0unds> yeah - there are a couple on a private network i'm usually on whom i've never met, but have chatted with for 15 years phlux: there's got to be something better out there m0unds: dunno. i really do like being able to run a client on a remote box and just resume it when i have time, and leave it alone when i don't mike-burns: Twitter? bonraton: i've moved away from the idea of maintaining friendships with people i have no way to meet in person somewhat
but still think IRC is the best communication medium we came up with so far
IRC is not dying, it died :) it's actually picking up again now, isnt it ? m0unds: yea, lots more private networks and stuff
smaller public networks too
seems abuse is quite a bit more prevalent too mike-burns: I cannot imagine what could replace IRC. The logistics of moving every programmer over to a new chat protocol seems overwhelming. m0unds: not to mention how resistant lots of 'em are to changing stuff ;) mike-burns: Oh totally; the idea of moving any one programmer to something new is overwhelming. m0unds: haha, streaming data to flightradar24
fun fun phlux: silc looks promising
doesn't appear to be any web integration, though
sad mike-burns: There's an irssi plugin and Pidgin/Colloquy support, according to Wiki. phlux: yeah, but nothing that'd work like http://webchat.ewnix.net/ mike-burns: http://silky.sourceforge.net/ - "Project closed". phlux: so I'm going to say
there's no real alternative for IRC as far as having integrated webchat AND being able to use a client is concerned. ***: CaZe has quit IRC (*.net *.split)
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CaZe has joined #arpnetworks mnathani: is there a free jabber service?
or jabber network mhoran: Is jabber.org still around? You used to just be able to register on that. staticsafe: it is still around but registrations are closed iirc mercutio: it's quite easy to run your own, i think there's quite a few free ones around though
i think like there was a new zealand one for instance :)
http://www.jabber.co.nz/about/
like looks liek you can get that for free staticsafe: staticsafe@jabber.org if anyone wants to add me mercutio: it's pretty easy to do your own server too
http://www.jabberes.org/servers/
this may be of use to you bonraton: there are lots of free jabber services, arent there public server directories online?
ah i see one was just linked ***: milki has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
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milki has joined #arpnetworks brycec: mnathani: dukgo has free Jabber/XMPP too
(aka DuckDuckGo, aka ddg)
https://duck.co/blog/using-pidgin-with-xmpp-jabber