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[02:09] <up_the_irons> m0unds: ah, 3 tons is large, yeah
[02:09] <up_the_irons> 36K BTU i think
[06:38] <m0unds> yeah, 12k x 3
[08:03] <phlux1> Does anyone here run a jabber server?
[08:06] <phlux1> I'm looking into it and thinking about setting up a jabber network, but I have no fucking clue what I'm doing or how this is supposed to work
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[08:46] <m0unds> i used to use openfire/wildfire years ago for a corporate xmpp network
[08:46] <m0unds> i doubt that stuff exists still, and if it does, it's probably worse because it used java :)
[08:46] <m0unds> jpalmer: http://i.imgur.com/UvEu5RK.png i need to build a coax antenna. seeing out about 75 mi w/the tiny TV ant that came w/the dongle
[08:53] <phlux> looks like 'ejabberd' is what to use these days
[08:54] <staticsafe> yeah
[08:54] <m0unds> yeah
[08:54] <m0unds> i only did openfire because it was at a site where i wasn't going to be working anymore and they wanted something with a gui
[08:55] <m0unds> it actually got moved to that ancient fc3 box i mentioned the other day, haha
[08:55] <phlux> I might honestly move to ejabberd and just get away from IRC tbh
[08:55] <phlux> well, jabber in general
[08:58] <m0unds> i wish more people used it
[09:03] <phlux> I just can't seem to figure out how to allow registration
[09:08] <m0unds> hahaha, detected flight THUG11 (C-17A Globemaster III)
[09:08] <staticsafe> THUG
[09:08] <staticsafe> heh
[09:09] <m0unds> yeah
[09:09] <m0unds> hahaha
[09:09] <m0unds> i saw it pop up and did a double take
[09:09] <staticsafe> apparently its double XP weekend in PS2
[09:09] <m0unds> it sure is
[09:10] <m0unds> stupid briggs TR need to gtfo connery
[09:10] <m0unds> they're so whiny and laggy
[09:10] <staticsafe> haha
[09:10] <staticsafe> they finally fixed briggs
[09:10] <m0unds> yeah
[09:10] <staticsafe> the CTO of SOE posted in the subreddit
[09:10] <m0unds> yeah
[09:10] <m0unds> i saw that, pretty cool that he provided some detail
[09:10] <m0unds> i always wondered how they did backend sync stuff
[09:11] <m0unds> TR on connery ended up being the refugee faction for briggs players
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[09:11] <m0unds> so they're all named $playerFromBriggs
[09:12] <m0unds> DingusFromBriggs, etc
[09:12] <staticsafe> heh
[09:14] <m0unds> but i kept getting tk'd by them, so i went VS for a bit and wrecked the TR for a bit - kdr was like 11 or something absurd :)
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[09:43] <hazardous> why ejabberd
[09:43] <hazardous> you crazy erlang users???
[09:44] <staticsafe> as opposed to the lua garbage that is prosody?
[09:51] <hazardous> why not openfire
[09:53] <m0unds> does it still exist? haha
[09:53] <m0unds> oh, it does
[09:54] <m0unds> wacky
[09:54] <m0unds> http://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/index.jsp
[09:54] <m0unds> oof, still uses java
[10:08] <phlux> yeah
[10:08] <phlux> i'd rather not use java
[10:08] <m0unds> openfire is pretty nice, but it's fat and java
[10:08] <phlux> here's what I'm not liking
[10:08] <phlux> each client for jabber has different commands
[10:08] <phlux> no commands are passed to the server, it seems
[10:09] <phlux> so like there's no '/kick' in any client other than pidgin
[10:11] <m0unds> huh.
[10:11] <mike-burns> I always go into Jabber thinking it's like IRC, and leave disappointed.
[10:12] <m0unds> hahaha, it's a lot more AIM/MSN/ICQ than IRC
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[11:28] <phlux> yeah
[11:29] <phlux> We need an IRC successor tbh
[11:29] <phlux> IRC is dying, but I don't know where the people are going
[11:29] <phlux> what's the "new thing" these days?
[11:29] <m0unds> no idea
[11:29] <m0unds> most of the people i talk to are still on irc
[11:29] <phlux> there's no way they're all leaving for forums/reddit..
[11:29] <phlux> that's not updated real-time
[11:29] <m0unds> i haven't used an IM client in years, but it seems like lots of people still use those
[11:29] <phlux> I hate having to hit refresh and wait on replies
[11:30] <m0unds> i think w/mobile stuff being so ubiquitous that people have move towards stuff more appropriate for use on mobile
[11:32] <mike-burns> IRC attracts a certain type: people who want to chat with the same group, or about the same topic, all day. The fact that it's real time isn't the important part for many.
[11:32] <m0unds> most of the channels i'm in aren't topical really
[11:33] <m0unds> err, aren't really topical
[11:33] <phlux> The important parts of IRC for me: Channels can be created/maintained by individual personnel, and they're in real-time
[11:33] <mike-burns> Right, that's the "chat with the same group".
[11:33] <m0unds> oh, missed the "or" the same topic
[11:33] <m0unds> right
[11:33] <m0unds> yeah, i think that's my use case in a nutshell
[11:33] <mike-burns> Chatting with online friends, who you may never physically meet.
[11:34] <mike-burns> That's probably a dying idea.
[11:34] <mike-burns> I suspect that IRC isn't being replaced with anything.
[11:34] <m0unds> yeah - there are a couple on a private network i'm usually on whom i've never met, but have chatted with for 15 tears
[11:34] <m0unds> s/tears/years
[11:34] <BryceBot> <m0unds> yeah - there are a couple on a private network i'm usually on whom i've never met, but have chatted with for 15 years
[11:35] <phlux> there's got to be something better out there
[11:35] <m0unds> dunno. i really do like being able to run a client on a remote box and just resume it when i have time, and leave it alone when i don't
[11:36] <mike-burns> Twitter?
[11:36] <bonraton> i've moved away from the idea of maintaining friendships with people i have no way to meet in person somewhat
[11:36] <bonraton> but still think IRC is the best communication medium we came up with so far
[11:38] <bonraton> IRC is not dying, it died :) it's actually picking up again now, isnt it ?
[11:38] <m0unds> yea, lots more private networks and stuff
[11:38] <m0unds> smaller public networks too
[11:41] <m0unds> seems abuse is quite a bit more prevalent too
[11:43] <mike-burns> I cannot imagine what could replace IRC. The logistics of moving every programmer over to a new chat protocol seems overwhelming.
[11:44] <m0unds> not to mention how resistant lots of 'em are to changing stuff ;)
[11:46] <mike-burns> Oh totally; the idea of moving any one programmer to something new is overwhelming.
[11:50] <m0unds> haha, streaming data to flightradar24
[11:51] <m0unds> fun fun
[11:51] <phlux> silc looks promising
[11:53] <phlux> doesn't appear to be any web integration, though
[11:53] <phlux> sad
[11:54] <mike-burns> There's an irssi plugin and Pidgin/Colloquy support, according to Wiki.
[11:54] <phlux> yeah, but nothing that'd work like http://webchat.ewnix.net/
[11:55] <mike-burns> http://silky.sourceforge.net/ - "Project closed".
[12:33] <phlux> so I'm going to say
[12:34] <phlux> there's no real alternative for IRC as far as having integrated webchat AND being able to use a client is concerned.
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[16:05] <mnathani> is there a free jabber service?
[16:05] <mnathani> or jabber network
[16:24] <mhoran> Is jabber.org still around? You used to just be able to register on that.
[16:32] <staticsafe> it is still around but registrations are closed iirc
[17:47] <mercutio> it's quite easy to run your own, i think there's quite a few free ones around though
[17:47] <mercutio> i think like there was a new zealand one for instance :)
[17:48] <mercutio> http://www.jabber.co.nz/about/
[17:49] <mercutio> like looks liek you can get that for free
[17:49] <staticsafe> staticsafe@jabber.org if anyone wants to add me
[17:49] <mercutio> it's pretty easy to do your own server too
[17:50] <mercutio> http://www.jabberes.org/servers/
[17:50] <mercutio> this may be of use to you
[18:18] <bonraton> there are lots of free jabber services, arent there public server directories online?
[18:19] <bonraton> ah i see one was just linked
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[23:08] <brycec> mnathani: dukgo has free Jabber/XMPP too
[23:10] <brycec> (aka DuckDuckGo, aka ddg)
[23:11] <brycec> https://duck.co/blog/using-pidgin-with-xmpp-jabber