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up_the_irons | m0unds: ah, 3 tons is large, yeah
36K BTU i think | [02:09] |
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m0unds | yeah, 12k x 3 | [06:38] |
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phlux1 | Does anyone here run a jabber server?
I'm looking into it and thinking about setting up a jabber network, but I have no fucking clue what I'm doing or how this is supposed to work | [08:03] |
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m0unds | i used to use openfire/wildfire years ago for a corporate xmpp network
i doubt that stuff exists still, and if it does, it's probably worse because it used java :) jpalmer: http://i.imgur.com/UvEu5RK.png i need to build a coax antenna. seeing out about 75 mi w/the tiny TV ant that came w/the dongle | [08:46] |
phlux | looks like 'ejabberd' is what to use these days | [08:53] |
staticsafe | yeah | [08:54] |
m0unds | yeah
i only did openfire because it was at a site where i wasn't going to be working anymore and they wanted something with a gui it actually got moved to that ancient fc3 box i mentioned the other day, haha | [08:54] |
phlux | I might honestly move to ejabberd and just get away from IRC tbh
well, jabber in general | [08:55] |
m0unds | i wish more people used it | [08:58] |
phlux | I just can't seem to figure out how to allow registration | [09:03] |
m0unds | hahaha, detected flight THUG11 (C-17A Globemaster III) | [09:08] |
staticsafe | THUG
heh | [09:08] |
m0unds | yeah
hahaha i saw it pop up and did a double take | [09:09] |
staticsafe | apparently its double XP weekend in PS2 | [09:09] |
m0unds | it sure is
stupid briggs TR need to gtfo connery they're so whiny and laggy | [09:09] |
staticsafe | haha
they finally fixed briggs | [09:10] |
m0unds | yeah | [09:10] |
staticsafe | the CTO of SOE posted in the subreddit | [09:10] |
m0unds | yeah
i saw that, pretty cool that he provided some detail i always wondered how they did backend sync stuff TR on connery ended up being the refugee faction for briggs players | [09:10] |
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m0unds | so they're all named $playerFromBriggs
DingusFromBriggs, etc | [09:11] |
staticsafe | heh | [09:12] |
m0unds | but i kept getting tk'd by them, so i went VS for a bit and wrecked the TR for a bit - kdr was like 11 or something absurd :) | [09:14] |
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hazardous | why ejabberd
you crazy erlang users??? | [09:43] |
staticsafe | as opposed to the lua garbage that is prosody? | [09:44] |
hazardous | why not openfire | [09:51] |
m0unds | does it still exist? haha
oh, it does wacky http://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/index.jsp oof, still uses java | [09:53] |
phlux | yeah
i'd rather not use java | [10:08] |
m0unds | openfire is pretty nice, but it's fat and java | [10:08] |
phlux | here's what I'm not liking
each client for jabber has different commands no commands are passed to the server, it seems so like there's no '/kick' in any client other than pidgin | [10:08] |
m0unds | huh. | [10:11] |
mike-burns | I always go into Jabber thinking it's like IRC, and leave disappointed. | [10:11] |
m0unds | hahaha, it's a lot more AIM/MSN/ICQ than IRC | [10:12] |
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phlux | yeah
We need an IRC successor tbh IRC is dying, but I don't know where the people are going what's the "new thing" these days? | [11:28] |
m0unds | no idea
most of the people i talk to are still on irc | [11:29] |
phlux | there's no way they're all leaving for forums/reddit..
that's not updated real-time | [11:29] |
m0unds | i haven't used an IM client in years, but it seems like lots of people still use those | [11:29] |
phlux | I hate having to hit refresh and wait on replies | [11:29] |
m0unds | i think w/mobile stuff being so ubiquitous that people have move towards stuff more appropriate for use on mobile | [11:30] |
mike-burns | IRC attracts a certain type: people who want to chat with the same group, or about the same topic, all day. The fact that it's real time isn't the important part for many. | [11:32] |
m0unds | most of the channels i'm in aren't topical really
err, aren't really topical | [11:32] |
phlux | The important parts of IRC for me: Channels can be created/maintained by individual personnel, and they're in real-time | [11:33] |
mike-burns | Right, that's the "chat with the same group". | [11:33] |
m0unds | oh, missed the "or" the same topic
right yeah, i think that's my use case in a nutshell | [11:33] |
mike-burns | Chatting with online friends, who you may never physically meet.
That's probably a dying idea. I suspect that IRC isn't being replaced with anything. | [11:33] |
m0unds | yeah - there are a couple on a private network i'm usually on whom i've never met, but have chatted with for 15 tears
s/tears/years | [11:34] |
BryceBot | <m0unds> yeah - there are a couple on a private network i'm usually on whom i've never met, but have chatted with for 15 years | [11:34] |
phlux | there's got to be something better out there | [11:35] |
m0unds | dunno. i really do like being able to run a client on a remote box and just resume it when i have time, and leave it alone when i don't | [11:35] |
mike-burns | Twitter? | [11:36] |
bonraton | i've moved away from the idea of maintaining friendships with people i have no way to meet in person somewhat
but still think IRC is the best communication medium we came up with so far IRC is not dying, it died :) it's actually picking up again now, isnt it ? | [11:36] |
m0unds | yea, lots more private networks and stuff
smaller public networks too seems abuse is quite a bit more prevalent too | [11:38] |
mike-burns | I cannot imagine what could replace IRC. The logistics of moving every programmer over to a new chat protocol seems overwhelming. | [11:43] |
m0unds | not to mention how resistant lots of 'em are to changing stuff ;) | [11:44] |
mike-burns | Oh totally; the idea of moving any one programmer to something new is overwhelming. | [11:46] |
m0unds | haha, streaming data to flightradar24
fun fun | [11:50] |
phlux | silc looks promising
doesn't appear to be any web integration, though sad | [11:51] |
mike-burns | There's an irssi plugin and Pidgin/Colloquy support, according to Wiki. | [11:54] |
phlux | yeah, but nothing that'd work like http://webchat.ewnix.net/ | [11:54] |
mike-burns | http://silky.sourceforge.net/ - "Project closed". | [11:55] |
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phlux | so I'm going to say
there's no real alternative for IRC as far as having integrated webchat AND being able to use a client is concerned. | [12:33] |
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mnathani | is there a free jabber service?
or jabber network | [16:05] |
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mhoran | Is jabber.org still around? You used to just be able to register on that. | [16:24] |
staticsafe | it is still around but registrations are closed iirc | [16:32] |
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mercutio | it's quite easy to run your own, i think there's quite a few free ones around though
i think like there was a new zealand one for instance :) http://www.jabber.co.nz/about/ like looks liek you can get that for free | [17:47] |
staticsafe | staticsafe@jabber.org if anyone wants to add me | [17:49] |
mercutio | it's pretty easy to do your own server too
http://www.jabberes.org/servers/ this may be of use to you | [17:49] |
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bonraton | there are lots of free jabber services, arent there public server directories online?
ah i see one was just linked | [18:18] |
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brycec | mnathani: dukgo has free Jabber/XMPP too
(aka DuckDuckGo, aka ddg) https://duck.co/blog/using-pidgin-with-xmpp-jabber | [23:08] |
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