#arpnetworks 2014-04-30,Wed

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brycecMy $.02 I really don't see the need or use for a mobile ARP Networks app. Between my phone's browser and JuiceSSH, I can't imagine what more an app would do. [00:14]
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up_the_ironsbrycec: it probably wouldn't do a whole lot more, if anything; just look nicer on mobile and have navigation / look / feel be more inline with a mobile device. [00:42]
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mercutioseems to be the trend these days [01:59]
mike-burnsThis mobile thing might become popular if it keeps going like this. [02:05]
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mercutioheh
apparently mobile is huge in third world countries with facebook etc
somehow i seemed to miss it
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brycecup_the_irons: Seems rather... pointless. Obviously, don't let me stop you, this is just my opinion, and my opinion is against useless "mobile apps" :p [07:51]
mike-burnsWhat if it were useful? [07:57]
brycecThen it wouldn't be "useless" :P
I just don't see myself (or others) being "oh man, I constantly need to log in to my ARP Portal and... something... wherever I am."
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jpalmerbrycec: I use my AWS app, and linode app pretty regularly. so, I guess it depends ont eh functionality. [08:23]
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brycecTIL there's an AWS app
jpalmer: If I might ask... What sorts of things are you using the apps for?
eg checking status, provisioning new instances, etc
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jpalmerbrycec: one of my clients doesn't want to use amazons autoscaling, because they want to have an idea of what they ar going to pay every month. So, I get alerts when things fall out of preferred thresholds.. and then depending on the situation, I'll spinup more instances, or scale them back. things like that. [09:33]
brycecInteresting
Doesn't exactly translate to ARP :P But I see the utility in it.
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jpalmeryeah, thats why I said it kinda depends on the functionality offered by the app [09:35]
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mus1cb0xwhat is a VPS label in arp parlance?
i read through the KB but there wasn't an article defining it
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brycecWhat is a VPS label in English? [10:20]
mus1cb0xhey, don't answer if you don't want to, but please don't be a dick
this is a channel for paying customers, and it doesn't help arp if it's filled with griefers
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brycecmus1cb0x: Sorry, didn't mean to come off that way. I'm legit asking...
I'm not familiar with "VPS label" as a term used by any other provider
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mus1cb0xneither am i [10:22]
brycecmus1cb0x: Are you asking about ARP's "Custom Service Label"? [10:23]
mus1cb0xdo you use the dedicated server service? [10:23]
brycecI do not, just a VPS customer. [10:23]
mus1cb0xwell i had the VPS dns name changed, and apparently that requires a change to the vps and a reboot also?
from the support ticket: "I've changed your DNS record to ..." "In order to change your VPS label, I need to shut it down and change
its setting.
"
i'm wondering if VPS label == hostname?
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brycecI couldn't say... Changing the DNS name is uncommon. Customers tend to keep their own DNS.
mus1cb0x: Oh so it's something support@ said...
[10:24]
mus1cb0xwell apparently it's some dns entry that's made for each and every VPS
yep
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brycecbrycec leaves this unusual question up to an ARP employee to answer [10:26]
mus1cb0xhehe :/ [10:29]
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sjacksowoo, more freebsd 10 security patches
what an exciting month
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brycecFreebsd9 got some too
(thanks for the reminder)
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mus1cb0xyea i'm surprised with 10's release
seems a sliver under the usual standard
i don't even know if i'll pick up 10.1 or if i'll stay with 9.3 at that point
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up_the_ironsbrycec: roger that [11:58]
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up_the_ironsmus1cb0x: the vps label i was referring to is an internal name we use, unique to each vps. it is used in the console.cust list of your VMs. [12:01]
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brycecup_the_irons: Congrats on the Cacti fix. As I understand, it wasn't the graphing that was broken, rather it was the collection and therefore, no recovery of that data?
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up_the_ironsLOL
brycec: a certain amount of data was actually recovered, stored in some poller table in MySQL. But no all of it.
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brycecbrycec steps back out of the time machine... "Oh." [12:07]
mus1cb0xup_the_irons: ah, why would that require bringing down the VPS? [12:13]
up_the_ironsmus1cb0x: you can't edit a VM label within libvirt while it is running
mus1cb0x: believe me, i'm not doing it because i like to
i'd rather leave the vps up
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mus1cb0xahh
no complaints, just wanting to understand
feel free to take it down
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mus1cb0xi'm just waiting to reinstall so it's not in use
mus1cb0x logged out
weee
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up_the_ironsall done [12:20]
mus1cb0xok great ty
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up_the_ironsdid rackspace blow up
what's that site / mailing list with outages? :)
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staticsafehttps://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages [16:45]
up_the_ironsdanke [16:47]
phluxman [16:50]
staticsafenp [16:50]
phluxchocolate oranges are the tits
btw up_the_irons you told me to remind you
tomorrow when you do billing, skip my account
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up_the_ironswait i did... ?
https://twitter.com/arpnetworks/status/461654623187501056
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BryceBotTWITTER: Need IT support rockstar for contract gig in Burbank, CA; needs to know Windows, AD, PDC, DHCP, and service OS X machines (Wed Apr 30 23:53:33 +0000 2014, retweeted 2 times) [17:02]
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jpalmerup_the_irons: you might want to mention if it's local or remote. otherwise.. you may be getting a lot of false leads ;)
http://home.palmerit.net:8080
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m0undsfun [17:21]
jpalmer^ live reading of aircraft transponders withing ~60 miles from my house. [17:21]
m0undsthat's neat [17:21]
jpalmerrunning off a raspberry pi, so it might be a bit slow ;) [17:22]
m0undsnot too bad [17:22]
jpalmerdid you zoom in over florida, where the planes are? [17:22]
m0undsyeah [17:22]
up_the_ironsit shows EU for me :) [17:22]
m0undsyeah, that's what showed when i pulled it up
took a moment to figure out where the a/c were, haha
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jpalmerup_the_irons: thats the default. you have to zoom in to where my reciever is. (florida) [17:23]
m0undswhat's your data source? [17:23]
jpalmerI'm feeding the live transponder data into flightradar24.com
m0unds: I'm lterally reading the plane transponders as they get within range.
literally*
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up_the_ironsjpalmer: ok [17:24]
m0undsusing what, though? i figured it was a radio or something [17:24]
jpalmeroh, yea. one of the little $10 USB TV recievers [17:24]
m0undshaha, awesome
cool project
http://hackaday.com/2013/05/23/listening-to-aircraft-transponders-with-a-raspberry-pi/ akin to this?
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jpalmeryeah, I have $40 involved. and, I've hand built an antenna. I just need to get outside and mount it this weekend. right now, the antenna is on my desk. so the range kinda.. sucks
yep, they are using the same software I did.
when I get the homeade antenna up, I'm hoping to pull in planes within a 150-200 mile radius.
that then gets fed into flightradar24.com, which offers a little more info (they take the flight info from the transponder, and associate it to the FAA flight info, allowing you to see takeoff/landing times and locations, and such.
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m0undshuh. [17:34]
jpalmerm0unds: the page I used: http://www.satsignal.eu/raspberry-pi/dump1090.html [17:36]
m0undswish my airspace was more active [17:37]
mhoranI should set up one of those. In NYC, under JFK and LGA airspace.
(I'm also a pilot.)
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m0undsmhoran: what do you fly? [17:43]
mhoranm0unds: I'm checked out in the club's Diamond DA-20. A friend and I are in the process of buying a Diamond DA-40 (N269RB). [17:44]
m0undsneat aircraft [17:44]
mhoranThey are. I didn't realize how neat when I started training. Spent some time flying a C172 while I was in CA last year and it was nice to see more of what's out there to compare.
Do you fly?
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m0undsi wish - just do a lot of watching. i live near a public airport (KAEG) [17:46]
mhoranCool, cool. It's a lot of fun. Especially around here. Love flying up the Hudson River Corridor. My family is in New Hampshire and friends back in Boston so it's nice to be able to zip up here.
s/here/there
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BryceBot<mhoran> Cool, cool. It's a lot of fun. Especially around there. Love flying up the Hudson River Corridor. My family is in New Hampshire and friends back in Boston so it's nice to be able to zip up there. [17:46]
mhoranWoah that's fancy. [17:47]
m0undsneat. i'd love to get into flying, but it's something that'll have to wait a bit - too many things to do :) [17:50]
mhoranYeah. It's a huge time sink. And I just want to fly more and more now that I've got my certificate. You get rusty so quick if you don't get up there. Plus, on a beautiful day, the sky is just beckoning you. [17:51]
RandalSchwartz270 hours PP-ASEL-IA, high performance and retract [17:53]
mhoranNeat! [17:54]
RandalSchwartzbut I haven't flown since 1993. :( Except in X-plane [17:54]
mhoranI plan to start on instrument once we get our plane. It's too impractical at the current place we're flying out of, a two hour drive from my house. And I don't own a car. [17:54]
RandalSchwartz"our plane"? You fly 100 hours a year or more?
because otherwise, a plane is like boat. two happiest days of a plane owner's life.... day he buys it, and day he sells it. :)
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mhoranHah, yup. We've been told that many times. :)
We've managed 90 hours in the last year, under less than optimal conditions (the two hour commute). Having a plane closer should make logging hours even easier. And we both want to do training for instrument, so we have to log that time.
We'll see. Both of us have family ~4 hours outside the city we want to visit often, and the rental situation in NYC sucks.
The FBO we were renting from originally shut down due to an accident last year. The major airports only focus on ATP training and the next closest option is the place we're renting from. Not accessible via public transit.
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m0undsRandalSchwartz: x-plane is good stuff. [18:01]
jpalmermhoran: if you want to set one of these up, I'm all about offering help. including the homeade antenna. [18:02]
mhoranI've been meaning to get a setup for that. It finally runs on my laptop (someone wrote a LD_PRELOAD hack that fixes issues with Intel and Msa.) [18:02]
RandalSchwartzindeed. Austin is an amazing coder [18:02]
mhoranjpalmer: Sweet! [18:02]
m0undssome of his adventure blog posts are pretty fun [18:02]
jpalmermhoran: with the wrong antenna (a little 4" magent mount tuned for TV reception) and indoors.. I get about 60 miles or so. when I get my co-co about 40' in the air outside.. I'm hoping for closer to 200 miles. [18:02]
mhoranThat's awesome!
Yeah, where I am, I'm sure there'd be some amazing traffic. Even with a crappy antenna.
I'm underneath the flight path for LGA runway 04.
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jpalmermhoran: until you build one though, flightradar24 is free. and if you are near JFK.. I'm sure someone is already doing it and feeding data to the site.
the local airport is very small. but I can see planes down to about 200'altitude now. when it's outside, I'm hoping to pick them up on the ground.
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mhoranVery cool. [18:05]
jpalmerthe frequency is fairly line of site, though. so.. not sure.
mhoran: if you are going in on a plane though.. make sure to install an ADS-B transponder, so I can keep tabs on ya!
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mhoranHeh. It's so expensive. Not going to pay for that yet. :)
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N208DB/history/20140420/2154Z/KGON/N14 -- I was surprised to see I got tracked the other day, when I transited the NY class bravo airspace! Usually they only half-ass getting you into hte system, but it was pretty busy and they needed to vector me out of the way a couple times.
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RandalSchwartzline of site, or line of sight?
heh... KGON is the local rocker station :)
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m0undsRandalSchwartz: that's exactly what i thought of - my buddy works for a WISP in portland and they had some gear colo'd up at the transmitter for KGON [18:13]
RandalSchwartzindeed
well - not sure the format now
but they practically invented the phrase "KGON... rocks"
even to the point where people would put KGON stickers on street signs that mentioned "rocks" :)
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m0undshaha [18:14]
RandalSchwartzpractically invented isn't the right phrase... more like "pounded it into our heads"... :) [18:14]
mus1cb0xwhat's kgon? [18:21]
m0undskgon is an airport or a radio station in oregon [18:21]
RandalSchwartzor both! [18:23]
mus1cb0xoh
anyone feeling charitable willing to critique a freebsd partition scheme: http://pastebin.com/AZsrxDf8
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m0undswhy so much swap? [18:44]
mus1cb0xtwice ram
(and not exceeding 4gb)
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DrkShdwDrkShdw is checking out weechat. [19:09]
jpalmerout of the box, it looks better than irssi (aesthetically) [19:10]
m0undsah
it's pretty good. i ended up using weechat as my primary irc client
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DrkShdwyeah, I think it was you I was talking to the other day about it. [19:13]
m0undsi think it was someone in here who got me to check out weechat [19:13]
mus1cb0xmus1cb0x uses weechat [19:13]
m0undsjust ordered a pi, haha [19:24]
DrkShdwm0unds: haha for the ADS-B thing? [19:26]
m0undsyes, and it's all your fault
i'm off work next week, so it'll give me something to do
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DrkShdwm0unds: http://www.nooelec.com/store/sdr/sdr-receivers/nooelec-nesdr-nano-sdr-dvb-t-usb-stick-r820t-w-antenna-and-remote-control.html#.U2GxUq1dU8E <-- the SDR I'm using
m0unds: depending on the frequencies, you may be able to use the same setup to listn to your local police, sherrif, fire/rescue, etc.
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m0undsthat's the same one i ordered w/the pi. cool.
http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/BCT15 i have one of these for listening to aircraft radio and stuff
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DrkShdwm0unds: if you have any RG6 laying around.. you can make a decent reciever antenna with about 4' of RG6, and a stick of 1.2" pvc, and a cap. [19:31]
m0undsi have a ton of rg6 from relocating my catv/sat drops [19:32]
DrkShdwI have an old BC-120xlt. I should dig it out of the closet, and charge it up.
ok, weechats channel status bar is driving me nuts. I gotta find out what all of these things mean.
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m0undsoh, the user list? [19:34]
DrkShdwno, the little channel status indicator at the bottom
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/scanners/BC120XLT.html <-- the old one I have.
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m0undstwin turbo, hahaha [19:35]
DrkShdw[02:35] [10] [irc/freenode] 2:#arpnetworks(+cnptz){66} [H: 4(16,3), 3(9,1), 6(3,1)] <-- the status bar driving me nuts. [19:35]
m0undsoh [19:36]
DrkShdwI bought that scanner, long before scanners were cool. then, about 2 years later all of the local law enforcement went to trunked mode.. and I couldn't listen any more. [19:36]
m0undsi think there's only one agency left near me that still uses regular old VHF radios [19:37]
DrkShdwif I remember correctly, this one was still able to get the old cordless phones, and cellphone bands.
maybe it was my older scanner. I don't recall now.
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m0undshaha [19:38]
mus1cb0xafter i've installed fbsd, is it possible to then remove the iso from the virtual cdrom to speed up boot time/security? [19:51]
CaZeYou can set the BIOS to not look at the cdrom. [19:52]
mus1cb0xno kidding? on a vps? that's cool [19:57]
i just rebooted the vps and it shows 1 HD and 2 dvd roms
f12 for boot menu. but no option to enter bios
any tip on that caze?
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CaZeActually, I haven't tried in awhile. Are you on VNC?
I'm pretty sure it's there, though.
Unfortunately, I can't reboot my VPS right now to check.
Go to the CMOS setup menu or something.
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mus1cb0xyea
is there a support article on how to access the bios of a vps?
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CaZeIt's exactly the same as on any PC. [20:40]
mus1cb0xthere's no listed key sequence to enter it
what is it?
i'll try it
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CaZeI don't remember. :/
It usually tells you.
"F11 for setup" or something.
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mus1cb0xyea doesn't seem to be happening
hm
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CaZeWait, it's trying to boot your cdrom first? [20:50]
mus1cb0xno, but it gives the option
ideally i'd have no discs in the virtual ddrives
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CaZeAsking you to hit F12? [20:51]
mus1cb0xit gives the option [20:51]
CaZeDoes it timeout? [20:51]
mus1cb0xit auto boots to disk just fine, i'd just prefer to remove the iso from the virtual drives
yea
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