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damnit, i gotta reboot this box
(resize fs, need more space) mercutio: can't you do an online resize? up_the_irons: underlying volume needs to change ***: ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks
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SpeedBus has joined #arpnetworks phlux: jpalmer: that's weechat ;) pjs: phlux are you a weechat dev? I notice you're IRC window is used in the "features" page for the client phlux: pjs: No, but I'm working on becoming one. He used it there mainly because he liked it so much. pjs: phlux gotcha.. funny, the snippet shows you asking if you can submit a screenshot :) hehehe phlux: haha I never realized that pjs: ;) phlux: hey, #arpnetworks is getting free advertisement there -: phlux demands payment phlux: He also uses my screenshot as the github example
https://github.com/weechat/weechat
looks like mine is the only one there pjs: Maybe I'll give weechat a try sometime.. I just use epic5 now -: jpalmer had never heard of weechat. I thought irssi was the end-all be-all irc client these days.
staticsafe refrains from making a IT Crowd joke up_the_irons: whoa, free advertising on weechat screenshots?!
never thought i'd see the day... ;)
jpalmer: i dumped irssi for weechat several years ago; it is quite a good client. several others in here also moved to weechat. pjs: Yea.. epic5 seems to have died out and the script scene on it def died out
I use a BitchX script now becasue its the only one I found to work consistently.. I stopped using BX in like 2001 for a reason :) jpalmer: up_the_irons: I'll have to check it out then. up_the_irons: lol
BitchX brings back some memories mercutio: it reminds me of autoaway
and everyone changing their nick to AFK at the end etc
don't see that at all anymore
and now it's normal for people to idle jpalmer: how many of you have jumped from screen to tmux? mercutio: most :) staticsafe: o/ -: m0unds still uses screen
up_the_irons still uses screen mercutio: oh wow old school m0unds: what would compel me to switch to tmux mercutio: tighter code
cleaner config
active development m0unds: okay, feature-wise? mercutio: well i just use the basic features myself :) m0unds: those are sort of idealogical since screen is stable and i don't really do any configuration of it aside from engaging utf-8 support mercutio: for me terminal emulation seems to work better, and it doesn't bring up an annoying screen when you attach
and default key bindings are simpler
oh and it has a nice status bar
it's pretty easy to try, packages are in debian/ubuntu, or comes by default with openbsd
it supports osme things like vertical splitting easily, but i run everything full window, with just having multiple tabs
it also compiles easily on solaris etc m0unds: haha, solaris
i haven't touched solaris in probably...7 years or so
6 mercutio: heh m0unds: wait, no
shit, 2005. thats 9 years mercutio: heh i'm getting an amiga -: m0unds is gud at maffs mercutio: someone asked how old they were, ..
i thought like 13 years
it's more ilke 20 years
time does fly m0unds: hahaha
yeah, absolutely
ok. trying tmux. ***: m0unds has quit IRC (Quit: yarrrrr)
m0unds has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: you like? m0unds: my use for screen was pretty basic, so this is largely the same experience w/the exception of the reattach command and the title at the bottom mercutio: ^BC opens another tab m0unds: yea, i usually only run weechat in screen though
nothing else mercutio: ^B0 ^B1 etc changes between them
ahh ok m0unds: yea, i found a decent quick reference for it mercutio: i occassionally do things like mtr
cool. m0unds: http://www.mechanicalkeys.com/files/os/notes/tm.html mercutio: it uses less memory too
which hardly needs mentioning now
you can shorten tmux attach to tmux at m0unds: ah, ok mercutio: there's also some way to do create or attach
which a friend of mine does, to access remote server, and starts as soon as he logs in
so that he's always using tmux m0unds: hm mercutio: i don't tend to close stuff myself
i use irc and email on the same host, so it's mostly email that uses my tabs
but it means if i'm using irc i know when i get new email ***: acf_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) m0unds: do you use pine or something for mail? mercutio: mutt
mutt is nothing like pine :/ ***: hive-mind has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) mercutio: been using it for about 15 years :)
i tried some of the gui things ages back, and they were really buggy m0unds: haha mercutio: the situation may have changed now, ..
i have considered shifting to imap, instead of tmux/mutt
and imap sort of worked ok with mutt
but the folder selection was worse
but yeah, i tried heaps, balsa, kmail, thunderbird.. m0unds: i've never been a fan of thunderbird
i used claws for a little while mercutio: neither was i ***: hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: it was hell slow
and buggy
uhh, i keep forgetting computers got much faster :) m0unds: most of the time now, on a desktop or laptop, i either use webmail or mail.app on mac & windows mail on win8 mercutio: maybe i shoudl try windows mail
the linux stuff always seemed pretty off
what i liked about imap was being able to do full text searching
so you can do full text searches across your whole mail box, and find keys in the mail, and limit to messages with that in them m0unds: on win8, it's a pretty straightforward client
not sure how it handles imap since my stuff is exchange mercutio: there's some java thing you need to run on your imap server to make it go fast
but even normal dovecot supports it m0unds: ah mercutio: solr
is the java thingy m0unds: oh, ok
i've heard of it, never used it mercutio: well it's java..
but it'se definitely faster than dovecot's inbuilt full text search
i dunno, i just like the limit thing in mutt, when using full text search :)
but i went back to local mail anyway m0unds: ever checked out mailpile?
it's almost usable
https://www.mailpile.is/ mercutio: it seems ok
full text searching for the win
i was thinking it's quite slow, but as i predicted, it's located ages away from me
i've noticed gmail got a lot faster recently
although i frequently need to click on refresh m0unds: it's ~200ms from me mercutio: it's 320ms from me ***: acf_ has joined #arpnetworks brycec: Also just "tmux a" 16:36:17 < mercutio> you can shorten tmux attach to tmux at CaZe: tmux a -d phlux: tmux -2 a -d
I actually do a few fun things with tmux here loally
locally*
i run tmux -2, then split the windows (^b-")
then inside of those windows, I run 'tmux -2 -S/var/tmp/tmux-top.sock -f.tmux2.conf'
then do the same for the bottom (tmux-bottom.sock)
then I have two independent windows inside of a tmux session, both running their own tmux sessions
it's beautiful
all .tmux2.conf does it unbind C-b and binds it to C-a
that way tmux doesn't get confused when I'm trying to issue commands to the individual windows mercutio: brycec: ahh ok
even in default config it's nice though :) ***: grepidem1c is now known as grepidemic m0unds: argh. i forgot to bring earplugs with me to the mogwai show i went to tonight ***: koan has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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