$ uptime
 01:21:10 up 1215 days, 22:42,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
$
damnit, i gotta reboot this box
(resize fs, need more space)
can't you do an online resize?
underlying volume needs to change
phlux: I want your irssi configs for this:  http://img.phluxbox.com/screenshots/raeh9g.png
jpalmer: that's weechat ;)
phlux are you a weechat dev? I notice you're IRC window is used in the "features" page for the client
pjs: No, but I'm working on becoming one. He used it there mainly because he liked it so much.
phlux gotcha.. funny, the snippet shows you asking if you can submit a screenshot :) hehehe
haha I never realized that
;)
hey, #arpnetworks is getting free advertisement there
He also uses my screenshot as the github example
https://github.com/weechat/weechat
looks like mine is the only one there
Maybe I'll give weechat a try sometime.. I just use epic5 now
whoa, free advertising on weechat screenshots?!
never thought i'd see the day... ;)
jpalmer: i dumped irssi for weechat several years ago; it is quite a good client.  several others in here also moved to weechat.
Yea.. epic5 seems to have died out and the script scene on it def died out
I use a BitchX script now becasue its the only one I found to work consistently.. I stopped using BX in like 2001 for a reason :)
up_the_irons: I'll have to check it out then.
lol
BitchX brings back some memories
it reminds me of autoaway
and everyone changing their nick to AFK at the end etc
don't see that at all anymore
and now it's normal for people to idle
how many of you have jumped from screen to tmux?
most :)
o/
oh wow old school
what would compel me to switch to tmux
tighter code
cleaner config
active development
okay, feature-wise?
well i just use the basic features myself :)
those are sort of idealogical since screen is stable and i don't really do any configuration of it aside from engaging utf-8 support
for me terminal emulation seems to work better, and it doesn't bring up an annoying screen when you attach
and default key bindings are simpler
oh and it has a nice status bar
it's pretty easy to try, packages are in debian/ubuntu, or comes by default with openbsd
it supports osme things like vertical splitting easily, but i run everything full window, with just having multiple tabs
it also compiles easily on solaris etc
haha, solaris
i haven't touched solaris in probably...7 years or so
6
heh
wait, no
shit, 2005. thats 9 years
heh i'm getting an amiga
someone asked how old they were, ..
i thought like 13 years
it's more ilke 20 years
time does fly
hahaha
yeah, absolutely
ok. trying tmux.
you like?
my use for screen was pretty basic, so this is largely the same experience w/the exception of the reattach command and the title at the bottom
^BC opens another tab
yea, i usually only run weechat in screen though
nothing else
^B0 ^B1 etc changes between them
ahh ok
yea, i found a decent quick reference for it
i occassionally do things like mtr
cool.
http://www.mechanicalkeys.com/files/os/notes/tm.html
it uses less memory too
which hardly needs mentioning now
you can shorten tmux attach to tmux at
ah, ok
there's also some way to do create or attach
which a friend of mine does, to access remote server, and starts as soon as he logs in
so that he's always using tmux
hm
i don't tend to close stuff myself
i use irc and email on the same host, so it's mostly email that uses my tabs
but it means if i'm using irc i know when i get new email
do you use pine or something for mail?
mutt
mutt is nothing like pine :/
been using it for about 15 years :)
i tried some of the gui things ages back, and they were really buggy
haha
the situation may have changed now, ..
i have considered shifting to imap, instead of tmux/mutt
and imap sort of worked ok with mutt
but the folder selection was worse
but yeah, i tried heaps, balsa, kmail, thunderbird..
i've never been a fan of thunderbird
i used claws for a little while
neither was i
it was hell slow
and buggy
uhh, i keep forgetting computers got much faster :)
most of the time now, on a desktop or laptop, i either use webmail or mail.app on mac & windows mail on win8
maybe i shoudl try windows mail
the linux stuff always seemed pretty off
what i liked about imap was being able to do full text searching
so you can do full text searches across your whole mail box, and find keys in the mail, and limit to messages with that in them
on win8, it's a pretty straightforward client
not sure how it handles imap since my stuff is exchange
there's some java thing you need to run on your imap server to make it go fast
but even normal dovecot supports it
ah
solr
is the java thingy
oh, ok
i've heard of it, never used it
well it's java..
but it'se definitely faster than dovecot's inbuilt full text search
i dunno, i just like the limit thing in mutt, when using full text search :)
but i went back to local mail anyway
ever checked out mailpile?
it's almost usable
https://www.mailpile.is/
it seems ok
full text searching for the win
i was thinking it's quite slow, but as i predicted, it's located ages away from me
i've noticed gmail got a lot faster recently
although i frequently need to click on refresh
it's ~200ms from me
it's 320ms from me
Also just "tmux a" 16:36:17 < mercutio> you can shorten tmux attach to tmux at
tmux a -d
tmux -2 a -d
I actually do a few fun things with tmux here loally
locally*
i run tmux -2, then split the windows (^b-")
then inside of those windows, I run 'tmux -2 -S/var/tmp/tmux-top.sock -f.tmux2.conf'
then do the same for the bottom (tmux-bottom.sock)
then I have two independent windows inside of a tmux session, both running their own tmux sessions
it's beautiful
all .tmux2.conf does it unbind C-b and binds it to C-a
that way tmux doesn't get confused when I'm trying to issue commands to the individual windows
brycec: ahh ok
even in default config it's nice though :)
argh. i forgot to bring earplugs with me to the mogwai show i went to tonight