[01:31] $ uptime [01:31] 01:21:10 up 1215 days, 22:42, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 [01:32] $ [01:32] damnit, i gotta reboot this box [01:32] (resize fs, need more space) [01:34] can't you do an online resize? [01:44] underlying volume needs to change [06:02] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [06:29] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang) [08:36] *** toddf has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [08:37] *** toddf has joined #arpnetworks [08:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [11:21] phlux: I want your irssi configs for this: http://img.phluxbox.com/screenshots/raeh9g.png [12:25] *** SpeedBus has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:56] *** SpeedBus has joined #arpnetworks [14:15] jpalmer: that's weechat ;) [14:24] phlux are you a weechat dev? I notice you're IRC window is used in the "features" page for the client [14:25] pjs: No, but I'm working on becoming one. He used it there mainly because he liked it so much. [14:25] phlux gotcha.. funny, the snippet shows you asking if you can submit a screenshot :) hehehe [14:26] haha I never realized that [14:26] ;) [14:27] hey, #arpnetworks is getting free advertisement there [14:27] * phlux demands payment [14:27] He also uses my screenshot as the github example [14:28] https://github.com/weechat/weechat [14:28] looks like mine is the only one there [14:29] Maybe I'll give weechat a try sometime.. I just use epic5 now [15:03] * jpalmer had never heard of weechat. I thought irssi was the end-all be-all irc client these days. [15:03] * staticsafe refrains from making a IT Crowd joke [15:08] whoa, free advertising on weechat screenshots?! [15:08] never thought i'd see the day... ;) [15:09] jpalmer: i dumped irssi for weechat several years ago; it is quite a good client. several others in here also moved to weechat. [15:09] Yea.. epic5 seems to have died out and the script scene on it def died out [15:10] I use a BitchX script now becasue its the only one I found to work consistently.. I stopped using BX in like 2001 for a reason :) [15:14] up_the_irons: I'll have to check it out then. [15:15] lol [15:15] BitchX brings back some memories [15:15] it reminds me of autoaway [15:15] and everyone changing their nick to AFK at the end etc [15:16] don't see that at all anymore [15:16] and now it's normal for people to idle [15:20] how many of you have jumped from screen to tmux? [15:21] most :) [15:31] o/ [16:10] * m0unds still uses screen [16:11] * up_the_irons still uses screen [16:15] oh wow old school [16:18] what would compel me to switch to tmux [16:18] tighter code [16:18] cleaner config [16:18] active development [16:18] okay, feature-wise? [16:18] well i just use the basic features myself :) [16:19] those are sort of idealogical since screen is stable and i don't really do any configuration of it aside from engaging utf-8 support [16:19] for me terminal emulation seems to work better, and it doesn't bring up an annoying screen when you attach [16:19] and default key bindings are simpler [16:19] oh and it has a nice status bar [16:20] it's pretty easy to try, packages are in debian/ubuntu, or comes by default with openbsd [16:21] it supports osme things like vertical splitting easily, but i run everything full window, with just having multiple tabs [16:22] it also compiles easily on solaris etc [16:23] haha, solaris [16:23] i haven't touched solaris in probably...7 years or so [16:23] 6 [16:23] heh [16:23] wait, no [16:23] shit, 2005. thats 9 years [16:24] heh i'm getting an amiga [16:24] * m0unds is gud at maffs [16:24] someone asked how old they were, .. [16:24] i thought like 13 years [16:24] it's more ilke 20 years [16:24] time does fly [16:25] hahaha [16:25] yeah, absolutely [16:25] ok. trying tmux. [16:25] *** m0unds has quit IRC (Quit: yarrrrr) [16:27] *** m0unds has joined #arpnetworks [16:33] you like? [16:34] my use for screen was pretty basic, so this is largely the same experience w/the exception of the reattach command and the title at the bottom [16:34] ^BC opens another tab [16:34] yea, i usually only run weechat in screen though [16:34] nothing else [16:34] ^B0 ^B1 etc changes between them [16:34] ahh ok [16:35] yea, i found a decent quick reference for it [16:35] i occassionally do things like mtr [16:35] cool. [16:35] http://www.mechanicalkeys.com/files/os/notes/tm.html [16:35] it uses less memory too [16:35] which hardly needs mentioning now [16:36] you can shorten tmux attach to tmux at [16:36] ah, ok [16:36] there's also some way to do create or attach [16:37] which a friend of mine does, to access remote server, and starts as soon as he logs in [16:37] so that he's always using tmux [16:37] hm [16:37] i don't tend to close stuff myself [16:38] i use irc and email on the same host, so it's mostly email that uses my tabs [16:38] but it means if i'm using irc i know when i get new email [16:39] *** acf_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [16:41] do you use pine or something for mail? [16:42] mutt [16:42] mutt is nothing like pine :/ [16:42] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:42] been using it for about 15 years :) [16:42] i tried some of the gui things ages back, and they were really buggy [16:42] haha [16:43] the situation may have changed now, .. [16:43] i have considered shifting to imap, instead of tmux/mutt [16:43] and imap sort of worked ok with mutt [16:43] but the folder selection was worse [16:44] but yeah, i tried heaps, balsa, kmail, thunderbird.. [16:45] i've never been a fan of thunderbird [16:46] i used claws for a little while [16:46] neither was i [16:46] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [16:46] it was hell slow [16:46] and buggy [16:46] uhh, i keep forgetting computers got much faster :) [16:46] most of the time now, on a desktop or laptop, i either use webmail or mail.app on mac & windows mail on win8 [16:46] maybe i shoudl try windows mail [16:47] the linux stuff always seemed pretty off [16:48] what i liked about imap was being able to do full text searching [16:48] so you can do full text searches across your whole mail box, and find keys in the mail, and limit to messages with that in them [16:48] on win8, it's a pretty straightforward client [16:48] not sure how it handles imap since my stuff is exchange [16:48] there's some java thing you need to run on your imap server to make it go fast [16:48] but even normal dovecot supports it [16:48] ah [16:49] solr [16:49] is the java thingy [16:49] oh, ok [16:49] i've heard of it, never used it [16:49] well it's java.. [16:49] but it'se definitely faster than dovecot's inbuilt full text search [16:50] i dunno, i just like the limit thing in mutt, when using full text search :) [16:50] but i went back to local mail anyway [16:51] ever checked out mailpile? [16:51] it's almost usable [16:51] https://www.mailpile.is/ [16:53] it seems ok [16:53] full text searching for the win [16:54] i was thinking it's quite slow, but as i predicted, it's located ages away from me [16:54] i've noticed gmail got a lot faster recently [16:54] although i frequently need to click on refresh [16:55] it's ~200ms from me [16:55] it's 320ms from me [17:08] *** acf_ has joined #arpnetworks [18:25] Also just "tmux a" 16:36:17 < mercutio> you can shorten tmux attach to tmux at [18:26] tmux a -d [18:29] tmux -2 a -d [18:29] I actually do a few fun things with tmux here loally [18:29] locally* [18:29] i run tmux -2, then split the windows (^b-") [18:30] then inside of those windows, I run 'tmux -2 -S/var/tmp/tmux-top.sock -f.tmux2.conf' [18:30] then do the same for the bottom (tmux-bottom.sock) [18:30] then I have two independent windows inside of a tmux session, both running their own tmux sessions [18:30] it's beautiful [18:31] all .tmux2.conf does it unbind C-b and binds it to C-a [18:31] that way tmux doesn't get confused when I'm trying to issue commands to the individual windows [19:23] brycec: ahh ok [19:24] even in default config it's nice though :) [20:24] *** grepidem1c is now known as grepidemic [22:14] argh. i forgot to bring earplugs with me to the mogwai show i went to tonight [23:17] *** koan has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:17] *** koan has joined #arpnetworks [23:19] *** jpalmer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [23:20] *** jpalmer has joined #arpnetworks