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up_the_irons | $ uptime
01:21:10 up 1215 days, 22:42, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 $ damnit, i gotta reboot this box (resize fs, need more space) | [01:31] |
mercutio | can't you do an online resize? | [01:34] |
up_the_irons | underlying volume needs to change | [01:44] |
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jpalmer | phlux: I want your irssi configs for this: http://img.phluxbox.com/screenshots/raeh9g.png | [11:21] |
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phlux | jpalmer: that's weechat ;) | [14:15] |
pjs | phlux are you a weechat dev? I notice you're IRC window is used in the "features" page for the client | [14:24] |
phlux | pjs: No, but I'm working on becoming one. He used it there mainly because he liked it so much. | [14:25] |
pjs | phlux gotcha.. funny, the snippet shows you asking if you can submit a screenshot :) hehehe | [14:25] |
phlux | haha I never realized that | [14:26] |
pjs | ;) | [14:26] |
phlux | hey, #arpnetworks is getting free advertisement there
phlux demands payment He also uses my screenshot as the github example https://github.com/weechat/weechat looks like mine is the only one there | [14:27] |
pjs | Maybe I'll give weechat a try sometime.. I just use epic5 now | [14:29] |
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jpalmer | jpalmer had never heard of weechat. I thought irssi was the end-all be-all irc client these days. | [15:03] |
staticsafe | staticsafe refrains from making a IT Crowd joke | [15:03] |
up_the_irons | whoa, free advertising on weechat screenshots?!
never thought i'd see the day... ;) jpalmer: i dumped irssi for weechat several years ago; it is quite a good client. several others in here also moved to weechat. | [15:08] |
pjs | Yea.. epic5 seems to have died out and the script scene on it def died out
I use a BitchX script now becasue its the only one I found to work consistently.. I stopped using BX in like 2001 for a reason :) | [15:09] |
jpalmer | up_the_irons: I'll have to check it out then. | [15:14] |
up_the_irons | lol
BitchX brings back some memories | [15:15] |
mercutio | it reminds me of autoaway
and everyone changing their nick to AFK at the end etc don't see that at all anymore and now it's normal for people to idle | [15:15] |
jpalmer | how many of you have jumped from screen to tmux? | [15:20] |
mercutio | most :) | [15:21] |
staticsafe | o/ | [15:31] |
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m0unds | m0unds still uses screen | [16:10] |
up_the_irons | up_the_irons still uses screen | [16:11] |
mercutio | oh wow old school | [16:15] |
m0unds | what would compel me to switch to tmux | [16:18] |
mercutio | tighter code
cleaner config active development | [16:18] |
m0unds | okay, feature-wise? | [16:18] |
mercutio | well i just use the basic features myself :) | [16:18] |
m0unds | those are sort of idealogical since screen is stable and i don't really do any configuration of it aside from engaging utf-8 support | [16:19] |
mercutio | for me terminal emulation seems to work better, and it doesn't bring up an annoying screen when you attach
and default key bindings are simpler oh and it has a nice status bar it's pretty easy to try, packages are in debian/ubuntu, or comes by default with openbsd it supports osme things like vertical splitting easily, but i run everything full window, with just having multiple tabs it also compiles easily on solaris etc | [16:19] |
m0unds | haha, solaris
i haven't touched solaris in probably...7 years or so 6 | [16:23] |
mercutio | heh | [16:23] |
m0unds | wait, no
shit, 2005. thats 9 years | [16:23] |
mercutio | heh i'm getting an amiga | [16:24] |
m0unds | m0unds is gud at maffs | [16:24] |
mercutio | someone asked how old they were, ..
i thought like 13 years it's more ilke 20 years time does fly | [16:24] |
m0unds | hahaha
yeah, absolutely ok. trying tmux. | [16:25] |
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mercutio | you like? | [16:33] |
m0unds | my use for screen was pretty basic, so this is largely the same experience w/the exception of the reattach command and the title at the bottom | [16:34] |
mercutio | ^BC opens another tab | [16:34] |
m0unds | yea, i usually only run weechat in screen though
nothing else | [16:34] |
mercutio | ^B0 ^B1 etc changes between them
ahh ok | [16:34] |
m0unds | yea, i found a decent quick reference for it | [16:35] |
mercutio | i occassionally do things like mtr
cool. | [16:35] |
m0unds | http://www.mechanicalkeys.com/files/os/notes/tm.html | [16:35] |
mercutio | it uses less memory too
which hardly needs mentioning now you can shorten tmux attach to tmux at | [16:35] |
m0unds | ah, ok | [16:36] |
mercutio | there's also some way to do create or attach
which a friend of mine does, to access remote server, and starts as soon as he logs in so that he's always using tmux | [16:36] |
m0unds | hm | [16:37] |
mercutio | i don't tend to close stuff myself
i use irc and email on the same host, so it's mostly email that uses my tabs but it means if i'm using irc i know when i get new email | [16:37] |
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m0unds | do you use pine or something for mail? | [16:41] |
mercutio | mutt
mutt is nothing like pine :/ | [16:42] |
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mercutio | been using it for about 15 years :)
i tried some of the gui things ages back, and they were really buggy | [16:42] |
m0unds | haha | [16:42] |
mercutio | the situation may have changed now, ..
i have considered shifting to imap, instead of tmux/mutt and imap sort of worked ok with mutt but the folder selection was worse but yeah, i tried heaps, balsa, kmail, thunderbird.. | [16:43] |
m0unds | i've never been a fan of thunderbird
i used claws for a little while | [16:45] |
mercutio | neither was i | [16:46] |
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mercutio | it was hell slow
and buggy uhh, i keep forgetting computers got much faster :) | [16:46] |
m0unds | most of the time now, on a desktop or laptop, i either use webmail or mail.app on mac & windows mail on win8 | [16:46] |
mercutio | maybe i shoudl try windows mail
the linux stuff always seemed pretty off what i liked about imap was being able to do full text searching so you can do full text searches across your whole mail box, and find keys in the mail, and limit to messages with that in them | [16:46] |
m0unds | on win8, it's a pretty straightforward client
not sure how it handles imap since my stuff is exchange | [16:48] |
mercutio | there's some java thing you need to run on your imap server to make it go fast
but even normal dovecot supports it | [16:48] |
m0unds | ah | [16:48] |
mercutio | solr
is the java thingy | [16:49] |
m0unds | oh, ok
i've heard of it, never used it | [16:49] |
mercutio | well it's java..
but it'se definitely faster than dovecot's inbuilt full text search i dunno, i just like the limit thing in mutt, when using full text search :) but i went back to local mail anyway | [16:49] |
m0unds | ever checked out mailpile?
it's almost usable https://www.mailpile.is/ | [16:51] |
mercutio | it seems ok
full text searching for the win i was thinking it's quite slow, but as i predicted, it's located ages away from me i've noticed gmail got a lot faster recently although i frequently need to click on refresh | [16:53] |
m0unds | it's ~200ms from me | [16:55] |
mercutio | it's 320ms from me | [16:55] |
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brycec | Also just "tmux a" 16:36:17 < mercutio> you can shorten tmux attach to tmux at | [18:25] |
CaZe | tmux a -d | [18:26] |
phlux | tmux -2 a -d
I actually do a few fun things with tmux here loally locally* i run tmux -2, then split the windows (^b-") then inside of those windows, I run 'tmux -2 -S/var/tmp/tmux-top.sock -f.tmux2.conf' then do the same for the bottom (tmux-bottom.sock) then I have two independent windows inside of a tmux session, both running their own tmux sessions it's beautiful all .tmux2.conf does it unbind C-b and binds it to C-a that way tmux doesn't get confused when I'm trying to issue commands to the individual windows | [18:29] |
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mercutio | brycec: ahh ok
even in default config it's nice though :) | [19:23] |
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m0unds | argh. i forgot to bring earplugs with me to the mogwai show i went to tonight | [22:14] |
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