[00:08] *** milki has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [00:08] up_the_irons: I thought you were upgrading hosts in order of host number? [00:09] no [00:09] Clearly :p [00:10] am i being upgraded [00:11] Only if you're on kvr17, phlux [00:11] https://twitter.com/arpnetworks/status/455603344929611776 [00:11] TWITTER: dist-upgrade on host kvr17 is commencing; 1160 days of uptime, hate to reboot... ;) (Mon Apr 14 07:07:56 +0000 2014) [00:12] idk if i'm on kr17 or not [00:12] * phlux checks [00:12] Presumably up_the_irons emailed the affected users beforehand? [00:13] kvr06 here [00:13] maint notice went out last week [00:13] also up_the_irons hates me [00:13] so it doesn't matter [00:13] amirite or amirite [00:13] kvr07 representing! [00:14] Good guy up_the_irons [00:15] I want to know when I become a long-time customer as the topic suggests [00:15] cause I've been here a while [00:15] idk how long [00:15] feels like forever [01:18] uhh it's up to kvr17? [01:18] does this mean kvr15 has already been done? [01:19] phlux: i think it's only so people can get kicked when they're annoying. which doesn't happen often. [01:19] He's not upgrading them in any kind of numerical order. [01:20] oh [01:26] garry@kvr17:~$ lsb_release -sd [01:26] Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS [01:26] garry@kvr17:~$ [01:26] w00t [01:38] 14.04 out soon :) [01:39] do you graph load average? [01:40] i'd be curious if it decreases much with the newer ubuntu [02:45] *** anis has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:45] *** anis has joined #arpnetworks [02:46] *** doomviking has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:46] *** doomviking has joined #arpnetworks [03:00] *** SpeedBus- is now known as SpeedBus [03:00] *** SpeedBus has quit IRC (Changing host) [03:00] *** SpeedBus has joined #arpnetworks [03:01] *** SpeedBus has quit IRC (Quit: SpeedBus@CrownCloud.net) [03:02] *** SpeedBus has joined #arpnetworks [04:40] http://blog.cloudflare.com/the-results-of-the-cloudflare-challenge [04:40] kind of disconcerting [05:11] disconcerting in what sense? [05:11] mercutio: disconcerting in that.. you hoped it wasn't true? [08:00] *** Fernandos has joined #arpnetworks [08:00] *** Fernandos has quit IRC (Changing host) [08:00] *** Fernandos has joined #arpnetworks [08:01] *** Fernandos has quit IRC (Client Quit) [10:02] *** gizmoguy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [10:07] *** gizmoguy has joined #arpnetworks [10:18] *** gizmoguy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:18] *** gizmoguy has joined #arpnetworks [10:21] staticsafe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjP5vjn-Lac [10:21] YouTube Music: "Com Truise - "Subsonic" (Official Video)" by THUMP (4m 40s), 301 views, 20 likes and 1 dislike. Uploaded 2014-04-14T16:26:48.000Z. [10:22] m0unds: :o [10:23] the video art is pretty neat, real early 90s feel [10:23] yeah [10:36] But we've escaped the 90's... Why are you trying to bring it back? :p [10:38] some of it is FUN [10:39] not a lot of it, but there's some fun to be had seeing throwback stuff [10:39] haha [10:42] You're going to make me want to play SystemShock, and then I'm going to be upset. *sigh* [10:43] *** Guest50198 is now known as sjackso [10:44] no reason to be sad about that, ss is awesome [10:44] * m0unds installs ss2 via steam [10:52] geez, i can't manage to get a competent team in titanfall. BOOOOO. [10:55] Can anyone recommend a decent VPS host that offers cPanel in Canada [11:16] m0unds: SS (and SS2) make me sad because the controls were terrible and inconsistent. [11:16] Fun game, but that has always annoyed me [11:17] (Especially since someone pointed it out and it clicked for me why I was never really happy while playing.) [11:26] is kvr06 going to restart any time soon? [11:27] Presumably, not within the next week [11:28] alrighty then [11:28] *** Guest86752 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:28] Since up_the_irons remarked that he sent out notices a week prior [11:28] Or whatever "last week" means 00:13:13 <@up_the_irons> maint notice went out last week [11:29] i have a filter and automatically delete e-mails from up_the_irons [11:29] they're never important [11:29] jk [11:29] I just never get ARP emails, things keep on ticking. [11:46] I don't think I've ever received an e-mail from ARP in all honesty [11:46] other than invoices I guess [11:46] I just have the original signup and support emails [11:52] i have invoices, ticket stuff and original sign-up [11:53] just curious: is ubuntu 14.04 going to remove the amazon spyware? [11:53] not that i'm ever going to consider running ubuntu [11:58] boooo [11:59] #ubuntu is no fun [12:00] http://paste.ewnix.net/index.php?show=123 [12:08] Should I be alarmed if a hosting provider only has he.net and cogent for transit? [12:13] *** grepidemic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [12:13] *** grepidemic has joined #arpnetworks [13:08] I wouldn't say "alarmed," not for that alone. But it's definitely a "budget" provider and apporpriate considerations should be made. (expectations of downtime, etc) [13:09] mnathani: ^ [13:09] lol, exactly 1 hour later (minus 5 seconds) [13:58] haha [13:59] jpalmer: yeh i suppose [13:59] yea, i wouldn't really worry about it - as long as they're not using a single transit provider for everything [13:59] jpalmer: i was kind of hoping people were blowing it out of proportion [14:01] woulda been nice, i guess [14:01] the verge posted a story about how people were worrying too much, citing cloudflare's challenge site's statement that no one had gotten the server keys yet [14:01] then they had to retract that because 12 hrs later, two guys had it [14:04] Yeah, sad times. One of the cloudflare guys I know was really crushed that others had extracted it so readily when he had thrown everything he could think of at it. [14:05] hate it when that happens [14:05] throw a ton of thought and time at something, trying to figure it out [14:05] and someone just spends a bit with it and nails it [14:06] And when it's sorta your job to know that shit, it's an especially sharp blow [14:06] cuz he takes pride in it and stuff [14:06] yeah [14:07] that's a bummer [14:13] that's why teams are better than individuals sometimes [14:16] There were a few guys working on it, actually. [14:16] i dunno i miss stuff all the time [14:16] but i spot stuff all the time too :/ [14:17] more people can work well for people who think outside the box [14:17] cos can think outside the box in different ways [15:10] mercutio: load avg did in fact go down on the hosts upgraded to 12.04, but ya never know if that was b/c of the new OS, or just the fact that everything was scrubbed from the reboot (we tend not to reboot often ;) [15:12] phlux: i will be hard pressed to upgrade kvr06 (that is, reboot it); uptime is at 1539 days currently [15:20] heh [15:21] up_the_irons: what about kvr07, any time soon? [15:21] (If I may be so bold as to ask ^) [15:21] heh [15:21] uptime is 1521 days on kvr07 (just a bit behind kvr06) [15:21] I wouldn't normally care, but I'm going on vacation and won't be around in case something doesn't reboot right on my VPS :p [15:22] Not bad :) [15:22] @date 1521 days ago [15:22] 4 years, 8 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, 0 seconds ago. [Interpreted date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:21:54 -0800] [15:22] whoa, @date ! [15:22] holy shit.... [15:22] godamn [15:22] heh, it's a handy function :D [15:22] it "feels" different when you say "4 years" [15:22] ``````hahaha [15:22] I know, awesome right? [15:22] without all the `````s [15:22] gawd that means that server was turned on once [15:22] when i installed it [15:23] That's frickin' awesome [15:23] i'm freakin' proud [15:23] \o/ [15:23] \m/ [15:28] up_the_irons: good - don't need it rebooting any time soon :) [15:53] phlux: :) [15:58] up_the_irons: probably a bit of both i suppose [15:59] yeah [15:59] this openssl thing still scares me [16:00] i imagine there's suddenly going to be lots of people trying to sppof dns, and pretend to be paypal or something [16:00] and even if it doesn't work very well, there's going to be more ddos type traffic [16:07] I'm excited to see OpenBSD gutting it and bringing it up to OpenBSD specs (for OpenBSD only, of course) [16:07] up_the_irons: do you like megadeth [16:08] phlux: i like some stuff [16:08] wat [16:08] >be iron maiden fan [16:08] >only like some megadeth [16:08] u cray [16:09] i swear if i wasn't paying you to ddos staticsafe 24/7 356 i would be out of here [16:09] s/356/365 [16:09] i swear if i wasn't paying you to ddos staticsafe 24/7 365 i would be out of here [16:11] @date 9876 days ago [16:11] 27 years, 2 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 0 seconds ago. [Interpreted date: Tue, 31 Mar 1987 16:11:12 -0800] [16:11] @date 10276 days ago [16:11] 28 years, 7 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 0 seconds ago. [Interpreted date: Mon, 24 Feb 1986 16:11:31 -0800] [16:11] that's when i started ddosing staticsafe [16:11] @date 10576 days ago [16:11] 28 years, 50 weeks, 6 days, 0 seconds ago. [Interpreted date: Tue, 30 Apr 1985 16:11:37 -0700] [16:12] phlux: i didn't even exist in 1987 [16:12] @date 10776 days ago [16:12] 29 years, 27 weeks, 2 days, 0 seconds ago. [Interpreted date: Fri, 12 Oct 1984 16:11:50 -0700] [16:12] oh [16:12] If you're looking for a *gorgeous* 27" IPS 2560x1440 monitor (from a good brand and American-based warranty, etc) $339.99 https://www.massdrop.com/buy/monoprice-monitor?mode=guest_open [16:12] neither did ia ctually [16:12] sep 1, 1988 [16:12] my bday [16:12] @date Sep 1, 1988 [16:12] 25 years, 33 weeks, 16 hours, 12 minutes, 11 seconds ago. [Interpreted date: Thu, 01 Sep 1988 00:00:00 -0700] [16:12] phlux: ^^ [16:12] [FBI] off [16:12] i was born on a thursday? [16:12] *** [FBI] has left [16:15] *** [FBI] starts logging #arpnetworks at Mon Apr 14 16:15:40 2014 [16:15] *** [FBI] has joined #arpnetworks [16:15] wb [FBI] [16:15] they just came out with, imo, their best album yet though [16:15] lightning bolt [16:16] if you're into them, you should give it a listen..i saw them in concert here in new orleans back in november [16:16] amazing show [16:18] *** jm|laptop has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [16:19] *** jm|laptop has joined #arpnetworks [16:49] what would you say to a host that houses its customers in subnets of Mask:255.255.252.0 Public IP space [16:50] Nobody's perfect :p [16:50] (Except ARP, obviously :p) [16:51] well its a cloud provider so I suppose they need some flexibility? [16:52] There could be some good reasons... I can't really grok it right now, too much $work [16:52] It's not an "immediate no" thoug [16:52] h [16:56] mnathani: are you required to target a canadian host, or can "close to canada" work? [17:26] Canadian host is a requirement [17:27] my customer beleives that is has value in terms of SEO [17:29] o_o [18:10] *** toddf has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded) [18:11] *** toddf has joined #arpnetworks [18:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [18:12] *** toddf has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded) [18:13] *** toddf has joined #arpnetworks [18:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [18:13] *** toddf has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded) [18:15] *** toddf has joined #arpnetworks [18:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [18:18] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded) [18:19] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [18:19] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded) [18:22] "my customer beleives" that's a nice, PC way of putting it :D [18:24] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [18:24] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded) [18:29] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [18:29] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded) [18:34] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [19:41] I think I should run now, this host has core routers listening on telnet ports with no passwords to get into user mode [19:42] Didnt try any commands on the router to see how much they have exposed or perhaps allow exec mode as well [19:42] *** jm|laptop has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [19:42] o_o [19:42] O_O [19:43] yes, run mnathani, run like the wind. [19:52] *** jm|laptop has joined #arpnetworks [19:52] . [19:59] , [19:59] ; [22:01] http://imgur.com/a/uPntl [22:01] It just keeps getting worse: Kindly note that the DNS hosting of your server are not managed by us. You need to contact your remote DNS hosting provider to setup RDNS for your IP addresses. [22:02] m0unds: I... don't get it? [22:02] neither do i [22:03] I don't see the issue, mnathani. So they don't want to run their own DNS? [22:03] i don't think i could possibly be more confused [22:03] yea..i don't like my eggs in one basket, so i outsource dns [22:03] also hate running my own dns [22:04] Nothing against ARP, but I don't host my DNS with ARP. [22:04] so i guess i'm prejudiced [22:04] I'm much more comfortable with an established DNS provider, one with a robust anycast infrastructure [22:04] it was a simple request, add PTR records for their IP space [22:05] they have their own name servers for the zone already, but their tier 2 doesnt understand the request [22:05] At least glue, yeah. But the provider wouldn't do that?