up_the_irons: I thought you were upgrading hosts in order of host number? no Clearly :p am i being upgraded Only if you're on kvr17, phlux https://twitter.com/arpnetworks/status/455603344929611776 TWITTER: dist-upgrade on host kvr17 is commencing; 1160 days of uptime, hate to reboot... ;) (Mon Apr 14 07:07:56 +0000 2014) idk if i'm on kr17 or not Presumably up_the_irons emailed the affected users beforehand? kvr06 here maint notice went out last week also up_the_irons hates me so it doesn't matter amirite or amirite kvr07 representing! Good guy up_the_irons I want to know when I become a long-time customer as the topic suggests cause I've been here a while idk how long feels like forever uhh it's up to kvr17? does this mean kvr15 has already been done? phlux: i think it's only so people can get kicked when they're annoying. which doesn't happen often. He's not upgrading them in any kind of numerical order. oh garry@kvr17:~$ lsb_release -sd Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS garry@kvr17:~$ w00t 14.04 out soon :) do you graph load average? i'd be curious if it decreases much with the newer ubuntu http://blog.cloudflare.com/the-results-of-the-cloudflare-challenge kind of disconcerting disconcerting in what sense? mercutio: disconcerting in that.. you hoped it wasn't true? staticsafe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjP5vjn-Lac YouTube Music: "Com Truise - "Subsonic" (Official Video)" by THUMP (4m 40s), 301 views, 20 likes and 1 dislike. Uploaded 2014-04-14T16:26:48.000Z. m0unds: :o the video art is pretty neat, real early 90s feel yeah But we've escaped the 90's... Why are you trying to bring it back? :p some of it is FUN not a lot of it, but there's some fun to be had seeing throwback stuff haha You're going to make me want to play SystemShock, and then I'm going to be upset. *sigh* no reason to be sad about that, ss is awesome geez, i can't manage to get a competent team in titanfall. BOOOOO. Can anyone recommend a decent VPS host that offers cPanel in Canada m0unds: SS (and SS2) make me sad because the controls were terrible and inconsistent. Fun game, but that has always annoyed me (Especially since someone pointed it out and it clicked for me why I was never really happy while playing.) is kvr06 going to restart any time soon? Presumably, not within the next week alrighty then Since up_the_irons remarked that he sent out notices a week prior Or whatever "last week" means 00:13:13 <@up_the_irons> maint notice went out last week i have a filter and automatically delete e-mails from up_the_irons they're never important jk I just never get ARP emails, things keep on ticking. I don't think I've ever received an e-mail from ARP in all honesty other than invoices I guess I just have the original signup and support emails i have invoices, ticket stuff and original sign-up just curious: is ubuntu 14.04 going to remove the amazon spyware? not that i'm ever going to consider running ubuntu boooo #ubuntu is no fun http://paste.ewnix.net/index.php?show=123 Should I be alarmed if a hosting provider only has he.net and cogent for transit? I wouldn't say "alarmed," not for that alone. But it's definitely a "budget" provider and apporpriate considerations should be made. (expectations of downtime, etc) mnathani: ^ lol, exactly 1 hour later (minus 5 seconds) haha jpalmer: yeh i suppose yea, i wouldn't really worry about it - as long as they're not using a single transit provider for everything jpalmer: i was kind of hoping people were blowing it out of proportion woulda been nice, i guess the verge posted a story about how people were worrying too much, citing cloudflare's challenge site's statement that no one had gotten the server keys yet then they had to retract that because 12 hrs later, two guys had it Yeah, sad times. One of the cloudflare guys I know was really crushed that others had extracted it so readily when he had thrown everything he could think of at it. hate it when that happens throw a ton of thought and time at something, trying to figure it out and someone just spends a bit with it and nails it And when it's sorta your job to know that shit, it's an especially sharp blow cuz he takes pride in it and stuff yeah that's a bummer that's why teams are better than individuals sometimes There were a few guys working on it, actually. i dunno i miss stuff all the time but i spot stuff all the time too :/ more people can work well for people who think outside the box cos can think outside the box in different ways mercutio: load avg did in fact go down on the hosts upgraded to 12.04, but ya never know if that was b/c of the new OS, or just the fact that everything was scrubbed from the reboot (we tend not to reboot often ;) phlux: i will be hard pressed to upgrade kvr06 (that is, reboot it); uptime is at 1539 days currently heh up_the_irons: what about kvr07, any time soon? (If I may be so bold as to ask ^) heh uptime is 1521 days on kvr07 (just a bit behind kvr06) I wouldn't normally care, but I'm going on vacation and won't be around in case something doesn't reboot right on my VPS :p Not bad :) @date 1521 days ago 4 years, 8 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, 0 seconds ago. [Interpreted date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:21:54 -0800] whoa, @date ! holy shit.... godamn heh, it's a handy function :D it "feels" different when you say "4 years" ``````hahaha I know, awesome right? without all the `````s gawd that means that server was turned on once when i installed it That's frickin' awesome i'm freakin' proud \o/ \m/ up_the_irons: good - don't need it rebooting any time soon :) phlux: :) up_the_irons: probably a bit of both i suppose yeah this openssl thing still scares me i imagine there's suddenly going to be lots of people trying to sppof dns, and pretend to be paypal or something and even if it doesn't work very well, there's going to be more ddos type traffic I'm excited to see OpenBSD gutting it and bringing it up to OpenBSD specs (for OpenBSD only, of course) up_the_irons: do you like megadeth phlux: i like some stuff wat >be iron maiden fan >only like some megadeth u cray i swear if i wasn't paying you to ddos staticsafe 24/7 356 i would be out of here s/356/365 <phlux> i swear if i wasn't paying you to ddos staticsafe 24/7 365 i would be out of here @date 9876 days ago 27 years, 2 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 0 seconds ago. [Interpreted date: Tue, 31 Mar 1987 16:11:12 -0800] @date 10276 days ago 28 years, 7 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 0 seconds ago. [Interpreted date: Mon, 24 Feb 1986 16:11:31 -0800] that's when i started ddosing staticsafe @date 10576 days ago 28 years, 50 weeks, 6 days, 0 seconds ago. [Interpreted date: Tue, 30 Apr 1985 16:11:37 -0700] phlux: i didn't even exist in 1987 @date 10776 days ago 29 years, 27 weeks, 2 days, 0 seconds ago. [Interpreted date: Fri, 12 Oct 1984 16:11:50 -0700] oh If you're looking for a *gorgeous* 27" IPS 2560x1440 monitor (from a good brand and American-based warranty, etc) $339.99 https://www.massdrop.com/buy/monoprice-monitor?mode=guest_open neither did ia ctually sep 1, 1988 my bday @date Sep 1, 1988 25 years, 33 weeks, 16 hours, 12 minutes, 11 seconds ago. [Interpreted date: Thu, 01 Sep 1988 00:00:00 -0700] phlux: ^^ [FBI] off i was born on a thursday? wb [FBI] they just came out with, imo, their best album yet though lightning bolt if you're into them, you should give it a listen..i saw them in concert here in new orleans back in november amazing show what would you say to a host that houses its customers in subnets of Mask:255.255.252.0 Public IP space Nobody's perfect :p (Except ARP, obviously :p) well its a cloud provider so I suppose they need some flexibility? There could be some good reasons... I can't really grok it right now, too much $work It's not an "immediate no" thoug h mnathani: are you required to target a canadian host, or can "close to canada" work? Canadian host is a requirement my customer beleives that is has value in terms of SEO o_o "my customer beleives" that's a nice, PC way of putting it :D I think I should run now, this host has core routers listening on telnet ports with no passwords to get into user mode Didnt try any commands on the router to see how much they have exposed or perhaps allow exec mode as well o_o O_O yes, run mnathani, run like the wind. . , ; http://imgur.com/a/uPntl It just keeps getting worse: Kindly note that the DNS hosting of your server are not managed by us. You need to contact your remote DNS hosting provider to setup RDNS for your IP addresses. m0unds: I... don't get it? neither do i I don't see the issue, mnathani. So they don't want to run their own DNS? i don't think i could possibly be more confused yea..i don't like my eggs in one basket, so i outsource dns also hate running my own dns Nothing against ARP, but I don't host my DNS with ARP. so i guess i'm prejudiced I'm much more comfortable with an established DNS provider, one with a robust anycast infrastructure it was a simple request, add PTR records for their IP space they have their own name servers for the zone already, but their tier 2 doesnt understand the request At least glue, yeah. But the provider wouldn't do that?