[00:32] *** reardencode has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [00:33] *** acf_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [00:33] *** reardencode has joined #arpnetworks [00:33] *** acf_ has joined #arpnetworks [00:39] *** jcv has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:41] *** jcv has joined #arpnetworks [00:54] *** patchouly has joined #arpnetworks [01:24] *** patchouly has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:25] *** patchouly has joined #arpnetworks [01:49] *** patchouly has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [01:49] *** patchouly1 has joined #arpnetworks [02:11] *** NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) [02:15] *** NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks [02:26] is this irc, the usual? is this the content versus form equation? [02:26] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [02:27] *** mnathani has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:27] *** tooth has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:27] *** d^_^b has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:27] *** up_the_irons has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:27] *** tooth has joined #arpnetworks [02:27] *** d^_^b has joined #arpnetworks [02:27] *** mnathani has joined #arpnetworks [02:27] *** medum has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:28] *** up_the_irons has joined #arpnetworks [02:28] *** medum has joined #arpnetworks [02:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o up_the_irons [02:28] patchouly1: what's your native language btw? [02:29] English of sorts. [02:29] of sorts? [02:30] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [02:30] you're from belgium, right? [02:36] sry, gotta go [02:40] see y., no my ip location is in Belgium. [02:46] *** grepidemic has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [02:47] *** grepidemic has joined #arpnetworks [03:00] *** patchouly has joined #arpnetworks [07:00] *** Nat_RH_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [08:35] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [09:13] *** RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks [09:13] * RandalSchwartz waves from Turkey [09:17] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang) [09:17] * brycec waves to Thanksgiving [09:22] Uh. No. [09:22] Although, we *did* see a turkey here a few days ago. [09:22] heh, I know [09:23] (that it's not the same "Turkey". I was unaware of your turkey sighting.) [09:23] (basically, was just making a joke) [09:28] * RandalSchwartz wanders off to a turkish dinner [09:48] * ant waves from Mallorca [09:49] back from the beach, slightly more red than before ;) [10:06] I just had a flock of turkey wander through my back yard [10:15] *** jcv_ has joined #arpnetworks [10:16] *** jcv has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [10:21] for anyone who uses freebsd.... http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=139709030711793&w=2 [10:21] openbsd-tech: "Re: OpenSSH hole, April 9" from Theo de Raadt @ 2014-04-10 0:37:56 [10:23] Well that was helpful. [10:28] *** jcv_ has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [10:28] *** jcv has joined #arpnetworks [10:54] uhh, ok [10:54] Theo making less sense that usual... [10:54] @tdr [10:54] Theo de Raadt says: I'm not just doing this for crowd response. I need to be right. [10:56] i'm glad he shed some light on...that [10:58] * RandalSchwartz waves again [10:58] back from my turkish dinner [11:00] turkish dinner, eh? [11:00] I bet with Turkish coffee [11:01] i like turkish coffee [11:03] * brycec does too [11:03] (In small doses) [11:04] no turkish coffee. I don't drink coffee. [11:04] I'm not going to lie...Indian Tea is the best hot drink out there [11:05] I examine foreign vessels entering US waters, and I love getting the Indian crews because of their tea [11:05] TWSS [11:05] Okay! twss! 'I examine foreign vessels entering US waters, and I love getting the Indian crews because of their tea' [11:06] lol phlux, do they share willingly? [11:07] (I'm not a "coffee drinker" but if I'm somewhere that serves good turkish coffee, espresso, or mocha, I'll partake [socially]) [11:10] what is TWSS? [11:10] "that's what she said" [11:10] @google "that's what she said" [11:11] 2,120,000 total results returned for '"that's what she said"', here's 3 [11:11] Said the actress to the bishop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Said_the_actress_to_the_bishop) The equivalent phrase in North America is "that's what she said". Both phrases are examples of Wellerisms, a literal "turn" of a phrase, changing its meaning. [11:11] Urban Dictionary: that's what she said (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=that's%20what%20she%20said) that's what she said. The most versatile joke on Earth. "I think we can fit that in with the rest of them." "That's what she said." "Make sure it's long enough." "That's ... [11:11] That's What She Said (2012) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1764636/) Directed by Carrie Preston. With Anne Heche, Marcia DeBonis, Alia Shawkat, Miriam Shor. Bebe and DeeDee, best friends with different relationship problems, ... [11:11] oh [11:11] ... the Urban Dictionary result is most relevant [11:11] never seen that abbreviated that way before [11:11] Aint nobody got time to write it out. This is the Internet! We've got important Internetting to do! [11:11] brycec: they always offer when we board :) [11:12] phlux: damn, good manners :) [11:12] brycec: The Captains and officers on these boats are super nice to us [11:12] Until we catch them in a lie and call them out on it [11:12] Maybe the British occupation wasn't so bad... [11:12] Heh, no doubt. (I deal with outsourced support and developers daily... I want to kill them all, every last one.) [11:12] "Oh we never log our oil-water separator because we don't generate oil!" [11:12] yaright [11:13] do they also mix with quinine? [11:13] RandalSchwartz: not sure what that is [11:13] Anti-malaria drug [11:13] @google quinine [11:13] 339,000 total results returned for 'quinine', here's 3 [11:13] Quinine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinine) Quinine (US /ˈkwaɪnaɪn/, UK /ˈkwɪniːn/ or /kwɪˈniːn/ KWIN-een) is a natural white crystalline alkaloid having antipyretic (fever-reducing), antimalarial, ... [11:13] Quinine - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinine) Quinine is an alkaloid which can reduce fever, work against malaria, pain and swelling. The bark of the Cinchona family of trees contains quinine. Quinine can ... [11:13] Tonic water - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonic_water) Tonic water (or Indian tonic water) is a carbonated soft drink, in which quinine is dissolved. Originally used as a prophylactic against malaria, tonic water usually ... [11:13] oh damn [11:13] yeah I'm reading up on it now [11:14] good ol' wikipedia [11:14] AKA... tonic wauter [11:14] There's also @wiki, FYI [11:14] as in a "vodka tonic" [11:14] but it's "Q" on a typical bar gun [11:14] from the original definition [11:15] hahaha [11:15] i'm a big coffee and tea drinker, i loves it all [11:15] "Quinine is available with a prescription in the United States and over-the-counter, in minute quantities, in tonic water. " TIL [11:15] "minute" :) [11:16] ""The Peruvians would mix the ground bark of cinchona trees with sweetened water to offset the bark's bitter taste, thus producing tonic water. [11:16] "give me a double vodka tonic" "sir, you'll need a prescription for that..." [11:16] * brycec loves the delay on the clipboard sometimes... [11:17] "According to tradition, the bitter taste of antimalarial quinine tonic led British colonials in India to mix it with gin, thus creating the gin and tonic cocktail" [11:17] "Gin And Tonic" was mentioned in H2G2 [11:18] heh [11:18] someting about the drink from the "leader" of ship # 2 [11:18] been a while, but I remember something there. [12:15] *** patchouly1 has quit IRC (Quit: patchouly1) [12:30] *** joepie91 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:32] *** joepie91 has joined #arpnetworks [13:13] *** dangel has joined #arpnetworks [13:21] *** dangel has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [13:24] *** dangel has joined #arpnetworks [13:25] * dangel screenifies... [13:28] lurker! [14:00] @google A= [14:00] 3,670,000,000 total results returned for 'A=', here's 3 [14:00] Technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology) Technology is the making, modification, usage, and knowledge of tools, machines, techniques, crafts, systems, and methods of organization, in order to solve a ... [14:00] PHP: A simple tutorial - Manual (http://www.php.net/manual/en/tutorial.php) Here we would like to show the very basics of PHP in a short, simple tutorial. This text only deals with dynamic web page creation with PHP, though PHP is not ... [14:00] Ruby Programming Language (https://www.ruby-lang.org/) A dynamic, interpreted, open source programming language with a focus on simplicity and productivity. Site includes news, downloads, documentation, libraries, ... [14:01] @google ARP Networks [14:01] 1,110,000 total results returned for 'ARP Networks', here's 3 [14:01] ARP Networks Homepage (https://www.arpnetworks.com/) ARP Networks is a leading provider of high performance VPS, IP transit, and colocation solutions. [14:01] Address Resolution Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_Resolution_Protocol) Address Resolution Protocol (ARP) is a telecommunication protocol used for resolution of network layer addresses into link layer addresses, a critical function in ... [14:01] ARP Networks VPS Services (http://www.arpnetworks.com/vps) ARP Networks is a leading provider of high performance VPS, IP transit, and colocation ... We run our own network, which is fully redundant, with over 50 peers. [14:21] *** patchouly has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [14:26] dangel: welcome [14:30] * phlux yawns [14:30] let's fighting love [20:45] looks like brycebot is inserting a broken character just before the "..." [20:45] showing up as hex "A0" [20:45] makes little purple blobs on my screen. I wonder if that's intentional. [21:33] RandalSchwartz: No idea where that's coming from... BryceBot isn't sending it. [21:37] maybe it's sending some control character into IRC that some clients ignore [21:37] my emacs lisp client is pretty bare-boned [21:37] function in ... [21:37] that's what I'm getting [21:38] although again, if your IRC client strips A0, you won't see that either. [21:38] *** carvite has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [21:38] ahh... the space between in and ... seems to have high bit set [21:38] maybe it's a flaw in the "..."-ing routine [21:39] *** carvite has joined #arpnetworks [21:52] RandalSchwartz: BryceBot's log messages translate non-printing characters into escapes. If it was sending that character to IRC, I would see it :p [21:52] RandalSchwartz: Perhaps the ... is utf8 and your client is just handling it weird? [21:54] Well, if it was an actual "..." char, I'd likely see that as one (possibly double-wide) char. [21:55] Perhaps [21:55] … [21:55] no - that's how that looks to me [21:56] yeah, looks fine to me too [21:56] yeah - I just msg'ed myself that, and it looks good [21:56] so brycebot is sending A0 2E 2E 2E [21:56] maybe it's an error in the IRC library [21:57] as in, the string is in utf8, but the library is mishandling it [21:58] * brycec digs into BryceBot [21:59] for the record, no IRC library, all socket-level stuff [21:59] what language? [21:59] it took me a while to convince Emacs to give me a full utf8 path for IRC. [22:00] PHP [22:00] ok... out of my league. :) [22:01] is the "shortening" thing your code or a library? [22:01] which, the "..."? That comes straight from Google. [22:02] oh... weird. [22:02] maybe getting it from google is breaking utf8 or something [22:10] I stand corrected, fixed my escaping and "d for resolution of network layer addresses into link layer addresses, a critical function in\302\240...\r\n" [22:13] so it was broken? [22:15] Well the escaping didn't cover >0x7F, so I didn't see it on the console [22:15] But I dug it, and it's coming from Google, in their JSON response [22:15] *dug in [22:16] ahh, so that's probably UTF-8 then. [22:16] (So, yay, all my UTF8 is handled properly - passes through a-okay) [22:16] must be [22:16] Alt-B \302 C2 U+00C2 Â Â capital A, circumflex accent [22:17] But no idea what \240 is [22:18] wait... \302\240 should be a single characterr [22:18] are you using latin-1 \302 thinking? [22:19] * brycec just sic'd addcslashes() on the JSON [22:19] as in the whole string should be mapped to a utf-8 string using whatever php does to map external utf8 to a utf8 flagged internal string [22:19] yeah - so you're seeing the raw utf8 [22:19] what are you doing in your code to map that properly [22:20] oops... gotta go [22:20] lol [22:21] To answer your questions as best I can, PHP fails miserably in many fields... [22:21] Including inconsistent handling of UTF8 strings [22:22] Most/much is nice and neat and utf8 friendly [22:22] But some functions are not. [22:50] So... All my string handling is kosher. addcshlashes() is obviously not multibyte happy, hence a slightly distorted output [22:51] And 0xA0 is still a mystery [22:52] oh nevermind [22:52] non-breaking space [22:52] totally valid [22:52] And it's RandalSchwartz's client [22:54] C2A0(And side note, \240 is 0xA0)