[01:03] *** acf_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [04:38] *** eryc_ is now known as eryc [05:01] *** SpaceDum1 is now known as SpaceDump [05:55] *** jcv has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [06:05] *** jcv has joined #arpnetworks [06:06] *** radixo has joined #arpnetworks [06:07] Hello guys.. I wanna know what is the tecnology behind ARPNETWORKS to virtualize OpenBSD amd64 [06:11] So far this morning I've managed to lose my IRC network's hub, crash a VPS hosted elsewhere, and in an attempt to get the dogs to stop barking, I pulled my blinds right off of the wall. [06:11] My blinds for that particular window are sitting crumpled on the floor [06:11] I've been awake for about 10 minutes [06:11] We just had a son, so I only got about 2 hours total last night [06:11] I'm about to crack here. [06:12] >_< [06:18] radixo: it is KVM [06:19] i'm about to an hero [06:48] staticsafe: I have some problems with slowless trying to run OpenBSD 'amd64', using VirtualBOX, VMWare Player and XenServer.. do you know why? [07:35] radixo: I fail to see how this is an ARPNetworks issue. [07:52] "slowless" so, a lack of slow? I fail to see the problem in that :^) [08:21] phlux: I think here is a place with contact with phlux, and not only to speak about issues.. [08:22] #english [08:22] *** acf_ has joined #arpnetworks [08:23] Based on that IP, I'd say English isn't their first language phlux :p [08:23] yeah i doubt it too [08:23] but [08:23] this channel is american damnit [08:23] and i'm proud of that [08:23] i thought it was chinese [08:23] damn. [08:24] radixo: We try to stay "on topic," a support channel for customers of ARPNetworks.com [08:24] *** m0unds has left "WeeChat 0.4.3" [08:24] *** m0unds has joined #arpnetworks [08:24] Yeah, you'd better run m0unds [08:24] hahaha [08:24] oh you're back [08:24] you jerk [08:24] And no, I don't know why you'd better run... It just seemed the right thing to say at the time. [08:24] it was [08:24] Oh man, The Jerk... awesome movie. [08:24] it was, assuming i wasn't here anymore [08:25] now i know how you really feel [08:25] :*( [08:25] brycec: so the website says I can stablish contact with this channel. [08:26] right [08:26] for support [08:26] with arpnetworks.com [08:26] not with openbsd [08:26] #openbsd [08:26] #yolo [08:26] *** acf_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:27] radixo: As for "slowness" there are LOTS of reasons why. But it's definitely not inherent to OpenBSD, or VirtualBox or VMware (how the heck do you run OpenBSD on Xen? haven't heard of that one). Many, many OpenBSD virtual machines have been spun up and shutdown, never had a "slowness" issue related to them. (Usually related to the backing store) [08:27] *** jcv has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [08:27] Anyhow, if you haven't been kickbanned already, #openbsd is the place to idly talk about OpenBSD, ask questions, that sort of thing. [08:28] *** acf_ has joined #arpnetworks [08:28] i think it works if you use xen hvm [08:29] same way you can get freebsd running in xen - such a kludge to get it working without it though [08:29] "on the Mailing List there's only 1 success for OpenBSD" http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_FAQ_Compatibility [08:30] on the mailing list, sure, but i've gotten it running before and it ran like dogshit [08:30] Generally, I avoid Xen as much as possible. Which is currently 99% (Stupid Chunkhost...) [08:30] haha [08:30] same w/freebsd [08:30] i tested xen in my home lab for like 2 weeks, then said screw it and set up kvm which just works [08:31] lol, Xen on ARM... I can just imagine a very, very overburdened RaspberryPi smoking itself. http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Common_Problems#Compatibility [08:31] hahahaha [08:31] linode is xen based, isn't it? There are legends of heavily bearded men who got freebsd to run on their systems, but (it seems) only legends. :) [08:31] i got freebsd running at linode, but it was far from stable [08:32] and it needed coaxing to start if it shut down for whatever reason [08:32] I played with Xen 6 or 7 years ago, before it was bought up by $somebody. Pain in the ass, and not worth it at the time. I had plenty of bare metal laying around anyways. [08:32] m0unds: may your beard always propser [08:32] haha, WHY THANK YOU [08:33] citrix? [08:33] Sounds right [08:33] (not that it really matters :p) [08:34] *** jcv has joined #arpnetworks [09:06] *** freedomcode has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) [09:07] *** reardencode has joined #arpnetworks [09:08] we've been good, but we won't last [09:08] hurry christmas [09:08] hurry fast [09:28] *** radixo_ has joined #arpnetworks [09:31] *** radixo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [09:41] *** radixo_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:03] *** radixo has joined #arpnetworks [10:57] flickr and yahoo have vulnerable SSL [10:58] *still*? [10:58] still? [10:58] haha sjackso [10:58] as per that scan [10:58] I think its customary to say Jinx brycec sjackso [10:58] you'd think the bot would do that automatically ;) [10:59] It could... but the two messages weren't identical :p [10:59] (also, never considered that before.)) [10:59] *** radixo has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [11:02] *** radixo has joined #arpnetworks [11:02] thanks all of you guys. [11:03] for the answers.. I am trying to experiment obsd at cloud.. and I will try arpnetworks.. [11:03] rhank you. [11:03] s/rhank/thank/ [11:03] thank you. [11:04] Many, many happy customers here running OpenBSD. [11:06] brycec: can you tell me what type of applications they run? I will do image processing and webserver requests [11:06] I don't know them personally... many hang out in here [11:08] awsome!! [11:08] thanks again.. [11:08] see you!! [11:09] and phlux is sucks.. ;) lol [11:09] *** radixo has left [11:09] you hear that, phlux? you is sucks. [11:09] wtf [11:09] that's not cool [11:09] I don't like that fellow. -.- [11:10] And I'm not even the one who is sucks. [11:10] at least we weren't left with any huehuehuehuehuehuehuehues [11:10] lol [11:10] so let me ask you guys a question [11:10] s/sk/ks/ [11:10] so let me aks you guys a question [11:11] two individuals were discussing pedos in a "hosting support" channel [11:11] so enter this new guy [11:11] who says they shouldn't talk about that because it's a "hosting chan" [11:11] I'm going to assume you mean pedometers... [11:11] nah [11:11] some guy said some other guy harassed little girls [11:11] *LALALALALALA* [11:11] but that's beside the point [11:12] so dude comes in saying that's off topic [11:12] and shouldn't be discussed in a hosting channel [11:12] meanwhile, same dude posts this apology about himself, talks about shooting up a grocery store, and how he is depressed because he was raped: http://pastebin.com/Apz63ptf [11:12] so [11:12] he's also not on topic right [11:13] i just want to be clear here [11:13] keep in mind i wasn't any of the three individuals [11:14] but i did call out the dude who sent his heartfelt apology about hating himself to an irc channel instead of a therapist [11:15] huh [11:15] I'm still waiting for a question... [11:15] 13:12:39 phlux │ he's also not on topic right [11:15] also [11:16] how ridiculous is it for homefry to send that out to an irc channel full of strangers [11:16] pretty ridiculous, sounds like he likes/wants/craves attention [11:16] Yes, obviously off topic. Thought that was rhetorical :p [11:16] i really need to find a hosting company without mental patients [11:16] m0unds: exactly [11:16] Approximately Internet ridiculous. [11:16] i need to just move all of my stuff to arp [11:16] but i'm lazy [11:16] doeeet [11:17] #centarra is full of aspergers kids who crave attention [11:17] i swear there's a new one ever yweek [11:17] every, even [11:17] and i don't think they've been diagnosed with anything [11:17] they just crave attention [11:17] no one brags about health conditions - especially to strangers who couldn't care less on irc [11:18] side note: that apology is pretty hilarious, isn't it? [11:18] Just a bit circlejerk... Craves attention, is provided attention by others that crave attention, next week a new dipshit pops up. [11:18] *big circlejerk [11:19] I think I'm going to discontinue service with them [11:19] and to do so, I'll file a support ticket [11:19] There are large parts of the Internet filled with that type of person. I avoid it. [11:20] "Why is the support channel full of admitted mental patients? For an example see mosh's apology letter here: http://paste.url" [11:20] lol [11:20] of course, staticsafe will probably snitch before I get the chance to do it [11:21] he uses them, too [11:21] and i forgot he was in here [11:21] pls don't involve me kthx [11:21] he stalks me on freenode fyi [11:21] well [11:21] don't involve yourself by snitching kthx [11:22] lol [11:22] if you snitch i will demand an apology at least twice the length of mosh's [11:22] if it doesn't show i will pay up_the_irons the ddos you 24/7 365 [11:22] u = ded [11:25] rss2email is pretty cool [11:25] haven't used it [11:25] Yep. [11:25] * brycec uses it [11:25] i use newsbeuter for arch rss [11:25] i assume it just takes rss feeds and e-mails them to you, aye? [11:25] It's my Google Reader replacement, way better too since it's just in my inbox rather than being yet another website to forget. [11:26] phlux: yea [11:26] phlux: pretty much. Cron job checks RSS feeds, emails you new posts. [11:26] interesting [11:26] http://www.allthingsrss.com/rss2email/getting-started-with-rss2email/ [11:26] can GMail dump the rss feeds into a folder other than my inbox? Probably with a filter if rss2email prefixes with a subject [11:27] phlux: yes, filtering. And there's a header IRIC [11:27] *IIRC [11:27] beautiful [11:27] thanks for the info, brycec and staticsafe [11:27] yea it adds multiple headers [11:27] staticsafe: btw, i was joking about the snitching. [11:27] i realized :P [11:27] haha [11:28] more people should take me less seriously, i think [11:28] In a way, phlux snitched on staticsafe - you're both unfaithful to ARP! [11:28] :( [11:28] oh man [11:28] you're right :( [11:28] i've actually talked to up_the_irons about it, too [11:28] i just haven't done it yet [11:28] can arp run linux, or just bsds? [11:28] both [11:29] nice [11:29] btw phlux I took the easy approach, rss2email just sends to user+rss@mygappsdomain.com, and I filter on that specific address. [11:29] the one I have is a FreeBSD VPS [11:29] anything that can run in KVM will probably work [11:29] Even Windows [11:29] brycec: that /is/ easy [11:29] And it works :) [11:29] watching a lecture on multicast, shit is complicated ._. [11:30] 'tis a bit, yeah. [11:30] Remember when programming, don't try and set the multicast ttl on a non-multicast socket :) [11:30] * brycec made that goofup just yesterday [11:34] whee IGMP [11:45] staticsafe: just out of curiosity, is it the coursera networking course? (I guess probably not since it didn't go into that much depth) [11:46] http://packetlife.net/library/cheat-sheets/ if anyone's interested [11:53] sjackso: nope, this is CCNP switch material for my university's networking program [12:45] *** alex_sf has joined #arpnetworks [12:47] multicast: just say no [12:47] everywhere I've been that enabled it had to turn it down for anything ambitious [12:53] what about IPTV deployments? [12:54] haha [12:54] i'm in a 10gbit/sec multicast video env :) [12:57] our IS dept runs a comparatively tiny IPTV deployment that also uses multicast w/IP STBs [12:57] hell, even directv's whole home DVRs use multicast + decnet devices for getting video to ancillary receivers [12:57] err, deca [12:57] not decnet..like it's 1978 or something [12:58] heh [12:58] deca/moca [12:58] *** alex_sf has quit IRC () [13:03] so [13:03] is ARP IPv7 ready? [13:03] If not, I have to move on.. [13:03] lol [13:04] *** qbit is now known as qluddite [13:05] Is there a final ipv7 yet, phlux? If not, then that's unfair to hold ARP to something that doesn't yet really exist. [13:06] And relevant http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/021811-vint-cerf-ipv7.html [13:08] *** qluddite is now known as qbit [13:27] *** patchouly has joined #arpnetworks [13:27] anyone? [13:28] someone? [13:31] yes, wanting to initiate a contract with ARP [13:33] patchouly: Click the appropriate "Order" button http://arpnetworks.com/ [13:33] Payment details shared over IRC is never, ever a good idea :D [13:36] *** Guest30743 has joined #arpnetworks [13:38] you are right, on the contrary wanted to have a test period of ten days, so to see if this really is an option, before being locked in at the mery of ARP whatever conditions. [13:40] You should probably email them directly [13:41] done, thanks, was scanning for the experiences of others in relation to them. But yes i mailed them 'evenly' one on one. [13:44] In my experience, very few hosts offer a "trial period." And in my limited scope, I haven't heard of ARP doing such a thing. (But I'm nobody, just hanging out in an IRC channel). [13:45] It's more likely that you can sign up, and if you cancel before the month, you'd be refunded a prorated amount. [13:45] But really, ARP is pretty inexpensive to try for a month. [13:50] we don't do trials [13:51] since we pro-rate your first month, sign up a few days before the end of the month, and then cancel [13:51] since the cheapest plan is $10, pro-rated a few days is like $2, so if that doesn't work for anyone, please go elsewhere :) [13:53] *** patchoul1 has joined #arpnetworks [13:54] hello world [13:55] up_the_irons ftw [13:56] ok, thnks for the advice, if they come up with something similar, and there are no hidden surprises in matters of service, i guess that should indeed do. [13:57] the offense in general to me is the intransparency in the commercial coding, intentionally to make money. This is a theoretical issue, not an ARP one mind. [14:00] "intransparency in the commercial coding" what? [14:00] "intentionally to make money." you mean the purpose of a business isn't to turn a profit? [14:02] discussing the systemics of intransparency allowed to confuse into incremental profit and exponential aggravation on the deplorable consumer. [14:06] in the end it is leveraging in who is at the top capital-wise, and for the involved whether they look down, or up to weight relative quality of comfort and happiness acordingly. [14:07] I disagree with completely your arguments only. There is no personal attack here. You refuse to accept the fact that your evidence is shallow, the result of annoying propaganda and prejudice. You reject anything involved with the fact that your evidence is shallow, the result of foolish propaganda and stupidity. [14:09] yes indeed, my brainwaves spun out into authistic overevaluation of lack of control. I will render the first part, as far as openbsd is concerned, if i find it wholesome and well behind the payment, that at least is a well documented, not errorprone partner for the while. [14:10] But there is a flexible yet critical democracy, and your argument would disagree with completely it. Is this well-constructed? I think it is obvious that your statement is foolish and foolish. You argue strenuously for dangerous propaganda. I argue strenuously against that. [14:12] what is your native speak? you do not seem to be a native american english speaker. [14:13] Can there be any doubt? I try to posit clear, clear realism, and you obviously do not. [14:15] i mean language wise, are you French speaker, anything else? [14:15] German, sprichts du Deutch? [14:15] Deutsch? [14:21] See i have offended y. though that was not my intention. No experience with chat rooms, irc, that sais it all, on my side. [15:47] brycec: the you ok? [15:50] *** jcv has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:51] is this real life [15:51] this dude types shit like that last line [15:51] "i have offended y." "that sais it all" [15:51] and then criticizes brycec's english? [15:51] where's ashton kutcher at [15:51] we're being punked [15:52] 15:04:44 brycec │ Is there a final ipv7 yet, phlux? If not, then that's unfair to hold ARP <--I was joking about that btw :P [15:52] *** jcv has joined #arpnetworks [15:53] also up_the_irons, will you ddos staticsafe plz [15:53] IPEEZ ARE SRS [15:53] this is the dawning of irc is super srs [15:53] irc is super srssssssssssssssssssss [15:53] phlux is gonna lose it [15:53] phlux: you need more than 2 hours sleep :) [15:54] I know :( [15:54] the good news? I might actually have time to finally make the jump exclusively to arp :P [15:57] sweet [16:00] lol 15:47:29 >> m0unds<< brycec: the you ok? [16:00] phlux, m0unds: I sic'd kookbot on him [16:00] @kook [16:00] One must consider compassion versus stupidity. You embrace shameful oppression. I disagree with completely that. But there is a honest justice, and your argument would object to it. [16:01] Because... dude wasn't making a lick of sense [16:01] So I threw it back [16:01] And kook's English is still perfect English. [16:02] and lol 15:51:42 < phlux> we're being punked [16:02] And eventually I stopped wasting my time [16:18] hahahah [16:23] up_the_irons any status update on the 2 new orders I put in yesterday for my clients? (sorry to pester, we're on a tight timeline.. these fuckers) [16:23] @google kookbot [16:23] Searching for 'kookbox' instead. [16:23] 10,500 total results returned for 'kookbox', here's 3 [16:23] Kookbox | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kookbox/111296942222776) Kookbox. 4970 likes · 77 talking about this. surfers for surfers.... [16:23] Kookbox Surfboards (http://www.kookboxx.com/) KOOKBOX SURFBOARDS. NEW SITE COMING SOON. CONTACT · Home. Copyright @ KOOKBOX surfboards. All rights reserved. [16:23] Surfer Joel Tudor attacked in Kookbox lawsuit | San Diego Reader (http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2013/dec/09/ticker-surfer-joel-tudor-kookbox-lawsuit/) Dec 9, 2013 ... Tudor, or somebody working on his behalf, also broke into a San Diego Kookbox warehouse and filched about $12,000 in merchandise, ... [16:24] damnit Google... http://homes.cs.washington.edu/~klee/misc/kookbot.html [16:44] hah [16:44] pjs: yeah i was just about to do them; they were in front of me last night and i literally fell asleep at the keyboard [16:47] *** patchoul1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:48] up_the_irons hah, cool. If possible (not sure if you can legally) include me on the account details email? [16:48] peter@netlandish.com [16:49] *** patchouly has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [16:50] Too late now, pjs, but... you might want to reconsider exposing your email address in a publicly logged (and possibly crawled) IRC channel ;) [16:53] *** Guest30743 has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) [17:09] brycec, my email is all over the damn place.. too late to worry about that :) [17:20] ...biz markie singing benny and the jets [18:21] *** Nat_RH_ has joined #arpnetworks [18:22] *** BryceBot has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [18:22] *** Nat_RH has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [18:22] *** phlux has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [18:22] *** SpeedBus has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [18:22] *** Amfy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [18:22] *** KDE_Perry has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [18:22] *** KDE_Perr1 has joined #arpnetworks [18:22] *** SpeedBus has joined #arpnetworks [18:23] *** BryceBot has joined #arpnetworks [18:23] *** Amfy has joined #arpnetworks [18:24] *** phlux has joined #arpnetworks [18:50] up_the_irons: I believe git log on the backup service requires use of the 'less' binary within the chroot [19:47] *** dj_goku_ has joined #arpnetworks [19:50] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [21:46] *** Yamazaki-kun has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [23:16] *** alienresidents has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [23:25] well, this is interesting news.. [23:25] nenolod has left atheme [23:25] i wonder if that means freenode will take on a different services package.. [23:26] and i guess that means i'll have to be on the lookout for one soon [23:28] *** KDE_Perr1 is now known as KDE_Perry [23:28] geez how many of us from there are in here