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My blinds for that particular window are sitting crumpled on the floor
I've been awake for about 10 minutes
We just had a son, so I only got about 2 hours total last night
I'm about to crack here.
>_< staticsafe: radixo: it is KVM phlux: i'm about to an hero radixo: staticsafe: I have some problems with slowless trying to run OpenBSD 'amd64', using VirtualBOX, VMWare Player and XenServer.. do you know why? phlux: radixo: I fail to see how this is an ARPNetworks issue. brycec: "slowless" so, a lack of slow? I fail to see the problem in that :^) radixo: phlux: I think here is a place with contact with phlux, and not only to speak about issues.. phlux: #english ***: acf_ has joined #arpnetworks brycec: Based on that IP, I'd say English isn't their first language phlux :p phlux: yeah i doubt it too
but
this channel is american damnit
and i'm proud of that m0unds: i thought it was chinese
damn. brycec: radixo: We try to stay "on topic," a support channel for customers of ARPNetworks.com ***: m0unds has left "WeeChat 0.4.3"
m0unds has joined #arpnetworks brycec: Yeah, you'd better run m0unds m0unds: hahaha brycec: oh you're back m0unds: you jerk brycec: And no, I don't know why you'd better run... It just seemed the right thing to say at the time. phlux: it was brycec: Oh man, The Jerk... awesome movie. m0unds: it was, assuming i wasn't here anymore
now i know how you really feel
:*( radixo: brycec: so the website says I can stablish contact with this channel. phlux: right
for support
with arpnetworks.com
not with openbsd
#openbsd m0unds: #yolo ***: acf_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) brycec: radixo: As for "slowness" there are LOTS of reasons why. But it's definitely not inherent to OpenBSD, or VirtualBox or VMware (how the heck do you run OpenBSD on Xen? haven't heard of that one). Many, many OpenBSD virtual machines have been spun up and shutdown, never had a "slowness" issue related to them. (Usually related to the backing store) ***: jcv has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) brycec: Anyhow, if you haven't been kickbanned already, #openbsd is the place to idly talk about OpenBSD, ask questions, that sort of thing. ***: acf_ has joined #arpnetworks m0unds: i think it works if you use xen hvm
same way you can get freebsd running in xen - such a kludge to get it working without it though brycec: "on the Mailing List there's only 1 success for OpenBSD" http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_FAQ_Compatibility m0unds: on the mailing list, sure, but i've gotten it running before and it ran like dogshit brycec: Generally, I avoid Xen as much as possible. Which is currently 99% (Stupid Chunkhost...) m0unds: haha
same w/freebsd
i tested xen in my home lab for like 2 weeks, then said screw it and set up kvm which just works brycec: lol, Xen on ARM... I can just imagine a very, very overburdened RaspberryPi smoking itself. http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Common_Problems#Compatibility m0unds: hahahaha sjackso: linode is xen based, isn't it? There are legends of heavily bearded men who got freebsd to run on their systems, but (it seems) only legends. :) m0unds: i got freebsd running at linode, but it was far from stable
and it needed coaxing to start if it shut down for whatever reason brycec: I played with Xen 6 or 7 years ago, before it was bought up by $somebody. Pain in the ass, and not worth it at the time. I had plenty of bare metal laying around anyways. sjackso: m0unds: may your beard always propser m0unds: haha, WHY THANK YOU
citrix? brycec: Sounds right
(not that it really matters :p) ***: jcv has joined #arpnetworks
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hurry christmas
hurry fast ***: radixo_ has joined #arpnetworks
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radixo has joined #arpnetworks mnathani: flickr and yahoo have vulnerable SSL brycec: *still*? sjackso: still? brycec: haha sjackso mnathani: as per that scan
I think its customary to say Jinx brycec sjackso sjackso: you'd think the bot would do that automatically ;) brycec: It could... but the two messages weren't identical :p
(also, never considered that before.)) ***: radixo has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)
radixo has joined #arpnetworks radixo: thanks all of you guys.
for the answers.. I am trying to experiment obsd at cloud.. and I will try arpnetworks..
rhank you.
s/rhank/thank/ BryceBot: <radixo> thank you. brycec: Many, many happy customers here running OpenBSD. radixo: brycec: can you tell me what type of applications they run? I will do image processing and webserver requests brycec: I don't know them personally... many hang out in here radixo: awsome!!
thanks again..
see you!!
and phlux is sucks.. ;) lol ***: radixo has left m0unds: you hear that, phlux? you is sucks. brycec: wtf
that's not cool
I don't like that fellow. -.-
And I'm not even the one who is sucks. m0unds: at least we weren't left with any huehuehuehuehuehuehuehues phlux: lol
so let me ask you guys a question brycec: s/sk/ks/ BryceBot: <phlux> so let me aks you guys a question phlux: two individuals were discussing pedos in a "hosting support" channel
so enter this new guy
who says they shouldn't talk about that because it's a "hosting chan" brycec: I'm going to assume you mean pedometers... phlux: nah
some guy said some other guy harassed little girls brycec: *LALALALALALA* phlux: but that's beside the point
so dude comes in saying that's off topic
and shouldn't be discussed in a hosting channel
meanwhile, same dude posts this apology about himself, talks about shooting up a grocery store, and how he is depressed because he was raped: http://pastebin.com/Apz63ptf
so
he's also not on topic right
i just want to be clear here
keep in mind i wasn't any of the three individuals
but i did call out the dude who sent his heartfelt apology about hating himself to an irc channel instead of a therapist m0unds: huh brycec: I'm still waiting for a question... phlux: 13:12:39 phlux │ he's also not on topic right
also
how ridiculous is it for homefry to send that out to an irc channel full of strangers m0unds: pretty ridiculous, sounds like he likes/wants/craves attention brycec: Yes, obviously off topic. Thought that was rhetorical :p phlux: i really need to find a hosting company without mental patients
m0unds: exactly brycec: Approximately Internet ridiculous. phlux: i need to just move all of my stuff to arp
but i'm lazy brycec: doeeet phlux: #centarra is full of aspergers kids who crave attention
i swear there's a new one ever yweek
every, even
and i don't think they've been diagnosed with anything
they just crave attention
no one brags about health conditions - especially to strangers who couldn't care less on irc
side note: that apology is pretty hilarious, isn't it? brycec: Just a bit circlejerk... Craves attention, is provided attention by others that crave attention, next week a new dipshit pops up.
*big circlejerk phlux: I think I'm going to discontinue service with them
and to do so, I'll file a support ticket brycec: There are large parts of the Internet filled with that type of person. I avoid it. phlux: "Why is the support channel full of admitted mental patients? For an example see mosh's apology letter here: http://paste.url" m0unds: lol phlux: of course, staticsafe will probably snitch before I get the chance to do it
he uses them, too
and i forgot he was in here staticsafe: pls don't involve me kthx phlux: he stalks me on freenode fyi
well
don't involve yourself by snitching kthx brycec: lol phlux: if you snitch i will demand an apology at least twice the length of mosh's
if it doesn't show i will pay up_the_irons the ddos you 24/7 365
u = ded staticsafe: rss2email is pretty cool phlux: haven't used it brycec: Yep. -: brycec uses it phlux: i use newsbeuter for arch rss
i assume it just takes rss feeds and e-mails them to you, aye? brycec: It's my Google Reader replacement, way better too since it's just in my inbox rather than being yet another website to forget. staticsafe: phlux: yea brycec: phlux: pretty much. Cron job checks RSS feeds, emails you new posts. phlux: interesting staticsafe: http://www.allthingsrss.com/rss2email/getting-started-with-rss2email/ phlux: can GMail dump the rss feeds into a folder other than my inbox? Probably with a filter if rss2email prefixes with a subject brycec: phlux: yes, filtering. And there's a header IRIC
*IIRC phlux: beautiful
thanks for the info, brycec and staticsafe staticsafe: yea it adds multiple headers phlux: staticsafe: btw, i was joking about the snitching. staticsafe: i realized :P phlux: haha
more people should take me less seriously, i think brycec: In a way, phlux snitched on staticsafe - you're both unfaithful to ARP! staticsafe: :( phlux: oh man
you're right :(
i've actually talked to up_the_irons about it, too
i just haven't done it yet
can arp run linux, or just bsds? staticsafe: both phlux: nice brycec: btw phlux I took the easy approach, rss2email just sends to user+rss@mygappsdomain.com, and I filter on that specific address. phlux: the one I have is a FreeBSD VPS staticsafe: anything that can run in KVM will probably work brycec: Even Windows phlux: brycec: that /is/ easy brycec: And it works :) staticsafe: watching a lecture on multicast, shit is complicated ._. brycec: 'tis a bit, yeah.
Remember when programming, don't try and set the multicast ttl on a non-multicast socket :) -: brycec made that goofup just yesterday staticsafe: whee IGMP sjackso: staticsafe: just out of curiosity, is it the coursera networking course? (I guess probably not since it didn't go into that much depth) m0unds: http://packetlife.net/library/cheat-sheets/ if anyone's interested staticsafe: sjackso: nope, this is CCNP switch material for my university's networking program ***: alex_sf has joined #arpnetworks pcn: multicast: just say no
everywhere I've been that enabled it had to turn it down for anything ambitious staticsafe: what about IPTV deployments? m0unds: haha
i'm in a 10gbit/sec multicast video env :)
our IS dept runs a comparatively tiny IPTV deployment that also uses multicast w/IP STBs
hell, even directv's whole home DVRs use multicast + decnet devices for getting video to ancillary receivers
err, deca
not decnet..like it's 1978 or something staticsafe: heh m0unds: deca/moca ***: alex_sf has quit IRC () phlux: so
is ARP IPv7 ready?
If not, I have to move on.. staticsafe: lol ***: qbit is now known as qluddite brycec: Is there a final ipv7 yet, phlux? If not, then that's unfair to hold ARP to something that doesn't yet really exist.
And relevant http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/021811-vint-cerf-ipv7.html ***: qluddite is now known as qbit
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Payment details shared over IRC is never, ever a good idea :D ***: Guest30743 has joined #arpnetworks patchouly: you are right, on the contrary wanted to have a test period of ten days, so to see if this really is an option, before being locked in at the mery of ARP whatever conditions. brycec: You should probably email them directly patchouly: done, thanks, was scanning for the experiences of others in relation to them. But yes i mailed them 'evenly' one on one. brycec: In my experience, very few hosts offer a "trial period." And in my limited scope, I haven't heard of ARP doing such a thing. (But I'm nobody, just hanging out in an IRC channel).
It's more likely that you can sign up, and if you cancel before the month, you'd be refunded a prorated amount.
But really, ARP is pretty inexpensive to try for a month. up_the_irons: we don't do trials
since we pro-rate your first month, sign up a few days before the end of the month, and then cancel
since the cheapest plan is $10, pro-rated a few days is like $2, so if that doesn't work for anyone, please go elsewhere :) ***: patchoul1 has joined #arpnetworks patchoul1: hello world brycec: up_the_irons ftw Guest30743: ok, thnks for the advice, if they come up with something similar, and there are no hidden surprises in matters of service, i guess that should indeed do.
the offense in general to me is the intransparency in the commercial coding, intentionally to make money. This is a theoretical issue, not an ARP one mind. brycec: "intransparency in the commercial coding" what?
"intentionally to make money." you mean the purpose of a business isn't to turn a profit? patchoul1: discussing the systemics of intransparency allowed to confuse into incremental profit and exponential aggravation on the deplorable consumer. patchouly: in the end it is leveraging in who is at the top capital-wise, and for the involved whether they look down, or up to weight relative quality of comfort and happiness acordingly. brycec: I disagree with completely your arguments only. There is no personal attack here. You refuse to accept the fact that your evidence is shallow, the result of annoying propaganda and prejudice. You reject anything involved with the fact that your evidence is shallow, the result of foolish propaganda and stupidity. patchoul1: yes indeed, my brainwaves spun out into authistic overevaluation of lack of control. I will render the first part, as far as openbsd is concerned, if i find it wholesome and well behind the payment, that at least is a well documented, not errorprone partner for the while. brycec: But there is a flexible yet critical democracy, and your argument would disagree with completely it. Is this well-constructed? I think it is obvious that your statement is foolish and foolish. You argue strenuously for dangerous propaganda. I argue strenuously against that. patchoul1: what is your native speak? you do not seem to be a native american english speaker. brycec: Can there be any doubt? I try to posit clear, clear realism, and you obviously do not. patchoul1: i mean language wise, are you French speaker, anything else?
German, sprichts du Deutch?
Deutsch?
See i have offended y. though that was not my intention. No experience with chat rooms, irc, that sais it all, on my side. m0unds: brycec: the you ok? ***: jcv has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) phlux: is this real life
this dude types shit like that last line
"i have offended y." "that sais it all"
and then criticizes brycec's english?
where's ashton kutcher at
we're being punked
15:04:44 brycec │ Is there a final ipv7 yet, phlux? If not, then that's unfair to hold ARP <--I was joking about that btw :P ***: jcv has joined #arpnetworks phlux: also up_the_irons, will you ddos staticsafe plz m0unds: IPEEZ ARE SRS phlux: this is the dawning of irc is super srs
irc is super srssssssssssssssssssss up_the_irons: phlux is gonna lose it
phlux: you need more than 2 hours sleep :) phlux: I know :(
the good news? I might actually have time to finally make the jump exclusively to arp :P up_the_irons: sweet brycec: lol 15:47:29 >> m0unds<< brycec: the you ok?
phlux, m0unds: I sic'd kookbot on him
@kook BryceBot: One must consider compassion versus stupidity. You embrace shameful oppression. I disagree with completely that. But there is a honest justice, and your argument would object to it. brycec: Because... dude wasn't making a lick of sense
So I threw it back
And kook's English is still perfect English.
and lol 15:51:42 < phlux> we're being punked
And eventually I stopped wasting my time m0unds: hahahah pjs: up_the_irons any status update on the 2 new orders I put in yesterday for my clients? (sorry to pester, we're on a tight timeline.. these fuckers) brycec: @google kookbot BryceBot: Searching for 'kookbox' instead.
10,500 total results returned for 'kookbox', here's 3
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Surfer Joel Tudor attacked in Kookbox lawsuit | San Diego Reader (http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2013/dec/09/ticker-surfer-joel-tudor-kookbox-lawsuit/) Dec 9, 2013 ... Tudor, or somebody working on his behalf, also broke into a San Diego Kookbox warehouse and filched about $12,000 in merchandise, ... brycec: damnit Google... http://homes.cs.washington.edu/~klee/misc/kookbot.html m0unds: hah up_the_irons: pjs: yeah i was just about to do them; they were in front of me last night and i literally fell asleep at the keyboard ***: patchoul1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) pjs: up_the_irons hah, cool. If possible (not sure if you can legally) include me on the account details email?
peter@netlandish.com ***: patchouly has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) brycec: Too late now, pjs, but... you might want to reconsider exposing your email address in a publicly logged (and possibly crawled) IRC channel ;) ***: Guest30743 has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) pjs: brycec, my email is all over the damn place.. too late to worry about that :) m0unds: ...biz markie singing benny and the jets ***: Nat_RH_ has joined #arpnetworks
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alienresidents has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) phlux: well, this is interesting news..
nenolod has left atheme
i wonder if that means freenode will take on a different services package..
and i guess that means i'll have to be on the lookout for one soon ***: KDE_Perr1 is now known as KDE_Perry KDE_Perry: geez how many of us from there are in here