#arpnetworks 2014-03-13,Thu

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CaZeWow, google drive is really cheap now. [16:09]
brycecYou mean besides the free offering? :P [16:11]
CaZeYeah. [16:13]
pjsany update on when fbsd 10 will be an option at ordering? [16:20]
up_the_ironsnothing on the radar, most people just do their own installs
i'm knee deep in a couple backlogged things
to make 'em
hosts < kvr27 will be slowly moved from Jaunty to Precise. I almost have the Puppet config and upgrade procedures golden.
that's a BIG jump, so there was a lot to do
Precise is REALLY nice, no more quirks
no more ACPI issues
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staticsafe:o [16:26]
up_the_ironsand little things like that [16:27]
RandalSchwartzwill it be a live migrate?
or some downtime involved?
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brycecDowntime
(it's been answered before)
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RandalSchwartzok [16:32]
up_the_ironsdowntime
i'm doing drills on a lab server for practice, to make the upgrade as quick as possible
scripting as much as possible, etc...
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RandalSchwartzeggcellent [16:36]
mercutioheh sysadmin olympics
who can do the fastest install
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m0undsfresh or from a system image? [16:49]
mercutioheh
you'd need a whole lot of way-over-complicated sitautions
because part of sysadmin job is deciding which way to do things
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m0undsyeah
whoever does it fastest and with the fewest godawful kludges wins
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mercutioheh [16:54]
m0undsor you could do the reverse, adding style points for the most kludges [16:54]
mercutiowell you should have awards for diff things
and debugging problems and so forth too
there's lots of debug work with sysadmin normally
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m0undsi'd hate to have to listen to commentary [16:55]
mercutiolike why doens't something work
haha
from what i understand up_the_irons is heavily into automation
but only of repetitive things
like some people try and do automation things with whmcs/solusvm etc and it does all the billing and everything
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m0undsi'm a big fan of automation [16:56]
mercutiothing is as soon as it doesn't work, they don't know what they're doing [16:56]
up_the_ironsi'm heavily into automating things that i do a lot, yes [16:56]
m0undsi have a toolkit i built that will autoconfigure cameras if there's an existing system configuration (i.e. it failed and has been replaced) [16:57]
up_the_ironssome things don't have easy automating solutions, however, and those things still bite me [16:57]
mercutioup_the_irons: did you ever figure out what that soft lockup bug was about?
that's one of those things that's hard to know what/how/hy
why
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up_the_ironsmercutio: those can be very elusive. unless something really sticks out, i can't spend too much time on it. it happens pretty rarely, but does happen. [16:59]
mercutioup_the_irons: ahh so you just rebooted and it was fine?
that's somewhere where having identical hardware is nice
is it OS? is it kernel? is it random?
is much easier when hardware/kernel/os etc is standard
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up_the_ironsmercutio: well, i *do* have identical hardware / os / kernel, but it doesn't make it easier ;)
mercutio: after a reboot, it was fine yeah
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mercutioup_the_irons: heh
so it's happened on other node sbefore?
but with most having long uptimes it's very uncommon
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up_the_ironsit has happened to others yeah [17:02]
mercutiofwiw i've hit that in a virtual machine before
not on arp but in general
and yeah rebooting fixed it
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up_the_ironsif the uptime is really high, i just say i'm thankful for that and move on ;) [17:02]
mercutiofrom what i understand it's one of the symptoms of a lot of different problems
hence it intself doesn't really tell you anything
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m0undsyea [17:03]
mercutiomm, is there going to be a beta for this precise thing?
or is it just the same as the old beta was
as far as qemu/kvm goes
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up_the_ironsthere won't really be a beta; i have a spare box that i'm doing a lot of testing on [17:06]
mercutioahh ok but its' the same? [17:10]
up_the_ironsexactly the same
it's a kvr spare
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mercutiocool.
i look forward to shifting to virtio :)
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up_the_ironsme too :) [17:37]
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toddfreading scrollback, I'm pretty sure up_the_irons has consistent environments across his kvr systems, so upgrading one is like upgrading the next .. ;-) [20:43]
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brycecI lolololololol'd http://i.imgur.com/XwacSOS.jpg [21:10]
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up_the_ironshaha [22:14]
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LLKCKfanI am trying to connect to wifi and get this DHCP cannot be acquired or Wireles router settings are incomplete Please use "Advanced Settings" to complete your setup I have tried and cannot get it to connect. Is there a way toget it to? [22:16]
mnathaniAnyone familiar with this useragent: Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.16 [22:21]
up_the_ironsnah [22:28]
mnathaniI am guessing its some kind of bot: "Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.2; Win64; x64) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.16"
Its hitting my webserver pretty hard
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LLKCKfanv
I am trying to connect to wifi and get this DHCP cannot be acquired or Wireles router settings are incomplete Please use "Advanced Settings" to complete your setup I have tried and cannot get it to connect. Is there a way toget it to?
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mnathaniI'll bite.
LLKCKfan: what OS?
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LLKCKfanBlu ray [22:30]
mnathaniofcourse ..
what make is the wireless router
and can you connect to it using other devices?
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LLKCKfanYes [22:32]
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mercutiomnathani: that's a normal browser
presto is the engine old opera uses
it still doesn't mean it's not a bot.
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