[02:26] *** terabit has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [04:09] *** novae has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [04:10] *** novae has joined #arpnetworks [04:56] @smokeping [04:56] https://smokeping.cobryce.com/ [04:57] https://smokeping.cobryce.com/ >> 502 Bad Gateway [04:57] smoke ping is broken [04:57] ^ brycec [05:02] @iata jax [05:02] JAX: Jacksonville International Airport located in Jacksonville, Florida, United States [05:02] @iata mco [05:02] MCO: Orlando International Airport located in Orlando, Florida, United States [05:02] @iata tpa [05:02] TPA: Tampa International Airport located in Tampa, Florida, United States [05:02] @iata dca [05:02] DCA: Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport located in Arlington County, Virginia (near Washington, DC), United States [05:03] @iata atl [05:03] ATL: Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport located in Atlanta, Georgia, United States [05:10] I wonder if it knows the smaller ones: [05:10] @iata hio [05:10] HIO: Portland located in Hillsboro Airport - Hillsboro, Oregon, United States, near Portland, Oregon [05:10] oooh.. cool. My home base. [05:11] no scheduled air there... just charter. [05:11] and private stuff like me [05:12] @iata mmv [05:12] MMV: McMinnville Municipal Airport located in McMinnville, Oregon, United States [05:12] Not even a tower there :) [05:13] @iata s12 [05:13] S12: Not a valid IATA. [05:13] Bah. It is too. [05:13] @ykz [05:13] that's albany airport... I used to fly there all the time [05:13] @iata ykz [05:13] YKZ: Toronto/Buttonville Municipal Airport located in Buttonville, Ontario, Canada [05:13] @iata albany [05:13] 5 results returned: ALH, ALB, YFA, ATO, ABY [05:14] @iata alb [05:14] ALB: Albany International Airport located in Albany, New York, United States [05:14] ahh... actually, that's not an iata code. just an faa code [05:14] @iata cvo [05:14] CVO: Corvallis Municipal Airport located in Corvallis, Oregon, United States [05:14] yeah, flown in to that [05:14] @iata hes [05:14] HES: Hermiston Municipal Airport located in Hermiston, Oregon, United States [05:14] and that was one of my longest flights [05:14] RandalSchwartz: fly as in you the pilot? or as a passenger [05:15] pilot [05:15] 270 hours in the left seat [05:16] nice :-) [05:16] high-performance (over 200 HP, variable pitch prop), retract add-ons [05:16] and instrument rated... I can fly through clouds. [05:40] *** novae has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [05:41] *** novae has joined #arpnetworks [06:03] *** novae has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [06:05] *** novae has joined #arpnetworks [06:27] RandalSchwartz: my buddy lived in woodland, wa and would fly out of hillsboro pretty regularly til he moved back to SLC, UT [06:28] he lived somewhere in OR before moving to woodland, but i don' remember where [07:01] *** RandalSchwartz1 has joined #arpnetworks [07:01] *** RandalSchwartz1 has left [07:53] *** gizmoguy_ has joined #arpnetworks [07:54] *** gizmoguy has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:54] *** jlgaddis has quit IRC (Write error: Broken pipe) [07:56] *** jlgaddis has joined #arpnetworks [08:13] *** novae has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [08:19] *** novae has joined #arpnetworks [08:40] damnit mnathani why'd you break my smokeping?? :P (fastcgi has been restarted, and data is repopulating) [08:41] sorry brycec. My bad. [08:41] I wonder what I can do about respawning, hmm [08:42] Crap, $importanthomeserver is apparently offline, and I just got to work [08:43] doh [08:43] i always just used thttpd for cgi handling w/nginx [08:43] Heh, handling smokeping like a CGI is a recipe for a very, very slow disaster. [08:44] except it's not slow, it doesn't randomly die and it works :) [08:44] RandalSchwartz: According to my source, S12 is not. If you have an issue, take it up with them :P http://airportcode.riobard.com/search?q=S12 [08:45] smokeping.cgi takes about 30s unless I run it as a fastcgi [08:45] takes less than 2s in my config [08:46] ugh, i hate chrome [08:47] 469ms to display the graphing summary, 630ms to draw graphs within a range [08:47] (oh nvm, I just read "ahh... actually, that's not an iata code. just an faa code") [08:48] hm, ipv6 has been nice and flat since about midnight [08:53] http://smokeping.z.gg/?target=arp is my smokeping running in London and pinging my VPS at ARP [08:53] That runs as fastcgi too. Not doing that and using "slow" CGI instead is madness :) [08:54] @tld gg [08:54] The top-level domain 'gg' is used for: Guernsey. [08:55] No, I'm not in Guernsey, it's just a TLD that still had single letter domains when I was looking [08:56] heh, just curious what gg was, is all [08:57] Well now I know who to blame for crashing my Smokeping. 180.76.5.26 I'm looking at you [08:57] Answer: Baidu Spider [08:58] (Yay, reproduceable!) [09:03] Interesting... plett is running Smokeping 2.3.6, I'm running 2.6.8. So somewhere in there, Tobi introduced a poorly-placed die [09:05] brycec: Mine is running whatever Debian squeeze has in it. [09:05] Which reminds me, I must get around to updating that to current stable [09:05] You probably should, yes. [09:06] Support hasn't ended yet, and I'm very lazy when it comes to fixing things that aren't broken yet :) [09:06] My ARP is on Wheezy because I could do the upgrade before I'd moved important services on to it. [09:08] Oh neat, the same die is present in 2.3.6. But I triggered it because I disabled charts. [09:13] *** staticsafe-znc has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [09:29] Good news! Smokeping.cgi will restart itself. Huzzah! [10:02] *** staticsafe-znc has joined #arpnetworks [10:19] *** staticsafe-znc has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [10:23] @iata mumbai [10:23] BOM: Chatrapati Shivaji International Airport located in Mumbai, India [10:24] @iata delhi [10:24] DEL: Indira Gandhi International Airport located in Delhi, India [10:24] @iata kerela [10:24] No results found for: kerela [10:24] @iata karela [10:24] No results found for: karela [10:24] @iata tamil [10:24] No results found for: tamil [10:24] @iata bangalore [10:24] BLR: Bengaluru International Airport (succeeding HAL Bangalore International Airport) located in Bangalore, India [10:24] @iata sharjah [10:24] SHJ: Sharjah International Airport located in Sharjah, United Arab Emirates [10:24] @iata abu dhabi [10:25] 2 results returned: AUH, AZI [10:25] @iata auh [10:25] AUH: Abu Dhabi International Airport located in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates [10:25] @iata ajman [10:25] QAJ: Ajman International Airport (Under construction) located in Ajman, United Arab Emirates [10:30] @iata ber [10:30] BER: All airports in Berlin (designated for new Berlin-Brandenburg International Airport) located in Berlin, Germany [10:31] IF it ever opens [10:32] @iata jeddah [10:32] did I break the bot? [10:32] JED: King Abdulaziz International Airport located in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia [10:33] *** staticsafe-znc has joined #arpnetworks [10:33] @iata arabia [10:33] 19 results returned: AHB, ABT, AJF, BHH, DWD, DHA, TRC, ELQ, HAS, HBT, JED, DMM, RUH, EAM, MED, AQI, TUU, TIF, YNB [10:33] @iata ahb [10:33] AHB: Abha Regional Airport located in Abha / Khamis Mushait, Saudi Arabia [10:33] @iata abt [10:33] ABT: Al-Baha Domestic Airport located in Al-Baha, Saudi Arabia [10:33] @iata ajf [10:33] AJF: Al-Jawf Domestic Airport located in Al-Jawf, Saudi Arabia [10:33] @iata bhh [10:33] BHH: Bisha Airport located in Bisha, Saudi Arabia [10:33] ... [10:34] @iata international [10:34] 821 results returned: DIR, CJS, AUH, SRG, ADL, ADE, SOC, JOG, AER, CWB, QAJ, AKC, AAN, JXB, ALB, ABQ, CUZ, ALP, AEX, ALY, CLO, LET, ALI, SEL, OSA, BER, LHE, ALA, LEI, SID, ASD, TGZ, REP, GUM, SCU, ANR, ARW, BYH, ATI, SCL, ASM, ASA, ASW, ATR, JRS, IST, ACY, MGA, NAT, GRB, AUS, BCM, SDA, BAH, BWI, BND, CMB, BGR, BGF, BNX, BJL, MAD, BSR, LTK, BDE, VLI, PEK, BEY, BFS, BLI, TLV, BSA, BLR, BEN, SXF, BDA, BIL, BHX, BHM, DUG, ... [10:34] :-) [10:41] mnathani: Asking and expecting a response in the same-second is a recipe for disappointment. [10:41] 10:31:17 < mnathani> @iata jeddah [10:41] 10:31:17 < mnathani> did I break the bot? [10:41] (I realize it was probably FreeNode lagging) [11:09] @iata airport [11:09] * RandalSchwartz grins [11:09] 5407 results returned: OCH, AAL, AAR, JEG, JIM, DIR, ABD, ABF, ABA, ABW, BGH, YXX, AAW, EAB, MLG, SNU, AEA, ABZ, ABR, AHB, ABI, ABG, ABO, AOD, CJS, SPI, AJS, AUH, AUE, ABS, AEH, ARA, ARF, MFV, ACS, SRG, ACU, AAD, ADT, ADK, ADA, EKX, ADS, ADL, ADE, SOC, SLK, JOG, ADF, AER, ADB, AEG, CWB, AFR, AWN, AFO, AFT, AFY, IXA, AGX, AUP, AGZ, AGW, NTO, AGR, AJI, AGQ, AGJ, AHE, AHS, AWZ, AIW, AIH, AIK, AIL, AIP, AIM, BUJ, ANW, AIE, ... [11:10] @iata seaport [11:10] No results found for: seaport [11:10] @iata helipirt [11:10] No results found for: helipirt [11:10] @iata heliport [11:10] 34 results returned: AAP, LLU, BHC, FRN, CDE, CSP, CCD, JCU, DIC, DIO, JRB, TSS, HEY, IKE, ILL, KAQ, KLQ, MCM, JNN, JNS, NUG, NUS, CSL, JJU, JCH, QQT, JGO, SYL, QUP, AGM, UPK, UMD, VRY, GZM [11:10] there ya go [11:48] *** jlgaddis has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [11:48] *** kevr has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [11:48] *** phlux has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [11:48] *** mnathani has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [11:56] *** mnathani has joined #arpnetworks [11:59] *** kevr has joined #arpnetworks [11:59] *** phlux has joined #arpnetworks [11:59] *** jlgaddis has joined #arpnetworks [11:59] *** jlgaddis has quit IRC (Changing host) [11:59] *** jlgaddis has joined #arpnetworks [12:00] *** jlgaddis has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [12:00] *** kevr has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [12:00] *** phlux has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [12:02] *** staticsafe-znc has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [12:02] *** joepie91 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [12:04] *** staticsafe-znc has joined #arpnetworks [12:06] *** robonerd has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [12:06] *** joepie91 has joined #arpnetworks [12:06] *** jlgaddis has joined #arpnetworks [12:06] *** kevr has joined #arpnetworks [12:06] *** phlux has joined #arpnetworks [12:13] *** treshoem has joined #arpnetworks [12:17] *** treshoem has quit IRC (Client Quit) [12:19] 13:31:17 mnathani | @iata jeddah followed by 13:31:36 mnathani | did I break the bot? brycec I count 19 seconds [12:20] mnathani: exactly why I copy/pasted my side :P [12:20] I blame freenode for the delay [12:20] * mnathani facepalm [12:20] As did I [12:20] [10:31:17] (BryceBot@freenode) > :mnathani!~mnathani@umbozero.winvive.com PRIVMSG #arpnetworks :@iata jeddah [12:21] [10:31:18] (BryceBot@freenode) > :mnathani!~mnathani@umbozero.winvive.com PRIVMSG #arpnetworks :did I break the bot? [12:21] I just read brycec | (I realize it was probably FreeNode lagging) [12:21] BryceBot's side of things [12:21] ha [12:21] Interesting that your remark from 1331.36 traveled backwards in time by 19 seconds to arrive at the same tiem as the first message [12:22] but my VPS clock is actually off, damnit [12:22] * brycec shakes his fist at up_the_irons [12:22] we should have a local ntp server hosted by ARP [12:22] on some dedicated boxen [12:22] 26 Feb 12:21:36 ntpdate[19302]: step time server 203.160.128.3 offset 22.848213 sec [12:23] I don't get how ntpd let that slip :/ [12:23] I stepped one of my VMware VMs today too: 26 Feb 14:01:36 ntpdate[3827]: step time server 192.75.12.11 offset 18005.460827 sec [12:24] haha, 18000 looks like a timezone difference [12:25] @wa 18000 seconds in hours [12:25] convert 18000 seconds to hours;5 hours;300 minutes;0.2083 days;~~ 60 × half-life of uranium-241 (~~ 300 s );time;Distance x traveled by light in a vacuum from x = ct:, ->3.353 billion miles, ->5.396×10^9 km (kilometers), ->5.396×10^12 meters, ->36 au (astronomical units);Frequency nu from nu = 1\/T:, ->5.556×10^-5 Hz (hertz) [12:55] *** raptelan has joined #arpnetworks [13:20] *** novae has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [13:21] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) [13:21] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [13:22] *** novae has joined #arpnetworks [13:28] *** easymac_ has joined #arpnetworks [13:28] *** raptelan_ has joined #arpnetworks [13:29] *** raptelan has quit IRC (Write error: Connection reset by peer) [13:35] *** alienresidents has quit IRC (Excess Flood) [13:36] *** easymac has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [13:36] *** easymac_ is now known as easymac [13:36] *** easymac is now known as Guest50176 [13:36] *** alienresidents has joined #arpnetworks [13:57] *** RandalSchwartz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [14:05] *** RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks [14:05] Hmm. ipv6 appears to no longer work on my box [14:06] this is probably around the time that I was wondering why I could not connect to freenode [14:06] IPv6 is overrated... <.< [14:06] >.> [14:06] since it prefers the v6 addrs [14:06] I just manually typed in a v4 addr, and all good [14:07] o_o [14:07] I guess I could reboot... been up 169 days.. maybe it's just tired. :) [14:07] probably should send an e-mail to support@ [14:07] (fwiw ipv6 working fine here) [14:07] same [14:33] *** Guest50176 is now known as easymac [14:33] *** easymac is now known as Guest29347 [14:37] same [14:58] @iata sfo [14:58] SFO: San Francisco International Airport located in San Francisco, California, United States [14:59] (for those who seem to care about these things, BryceBot will get ICAO support as soon as I have time and motivation. I do have a datasource found at least.) [14:59] yay [15:02] heh, just remember I have a lot of other things ahead of it :P And I still need to decide on how to design it into BryceBot (it introduces a chunk of redundant code that I'd like to avoid.) [15:02] I might work on it this weekend... We'll see. [15:03] my bot in another channel supports it, so if i get a hankerin for icao and i'm too lazy to open a browser i can just use it :P [15:03] @iata lsanca [15:03] No results found for: lsanca [15:03] @iata lsa [15:03] LSA: Not a valid IATA. [15:03] @iata nca [15:03] NCA: MCAS New River (McCutcheon Field) located in Jacksonville, North Carolina, United States [15:04] haha, lsanca = los angeles ca [15:04] lol [15:04] if you're ntt or whomever it is who abbreviates it that way [15:04] ntt or verizon [15:04] something like that, hahaha [15:04] yea.. ntt [15:05] the more 'normal' way would be just LAX [15:05] *** novae has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:06] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR57jkR-Hqg i don't really get why tiny tim is so creepy [15:06] YouTube People: "Why I hate Rust" by JP Losman (2m 5s), 471 views, 28 likes and 1 dislike. Uploaded 2014-02-09T04:05:45.000Z. [15:06] isn't tiny tim dead? [15:06] "ls"=los "an"=angeles "ca"=california, silly NTT [15:07] i think so [15:07] but his music has found its way into movies and stuff in the last few years [15:07] I think unless you saw Tiny Tim on the Smothers Brothers show, you probably won't have much of an opinion of him. [15:08] *** novae has joined #arpnetworks [15:08] his "tiptoe through the tulips" there is forever burned into my youthful mind [15:08] haha [15:08] yeah, it was used in a horror film recently [15:08] his performance on the show? [15:08] his performance of that song [15:08] no idea where from [15:08] probably from there [15:09] which film... maybe imdb knows [15:09] and living in the sunlight [15:09] insidious i htink someone said [15:09] s/htink/think [15:09] insidious i think someone said [15:11] sounds like just the audio track... not his actual appearance [15:11] I was thinking they were showing it on a television or something [15:12] oh [15:12] no, it's just the song from what i gathered [15:12] i haven't seen it [15:12] ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insidious_(film) [15:12] Insidious (film) :: Insidious is a 2010 American supernatural horror film directed by James Wan, written by Leigh Whannell, and starring Patrick Wilson, Rose Byrne and Barbara Hershey. The story centers on a couple whose son inexplicably enters a comatose state and becomes a vessel for ghosts in an astral dimension. The film was released in theaters on April 1, 2011, and is FilmDistrict's first theatrical release. A sequel, Insidious: Chapter... [15:12] so maybe the ghost of tiny tim? haha [15:34] *** Guest29347 is now known as easymac [15:34] *** easymac is now known as Guest57510 [15:52] woot not pages full of disconnect/connects [15:54] *** robonerd has joined #arpnetworks [15:54] *** robonerd has quit IRC (Changing host) [15:54] *** robonerd has joined #arpnetworks [16:00] progress [16:24] *** mhoran has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:24] *** mhoran has joined #arpnetworks [16:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mhoran [16:33] apparently i217 ethernet cards as standrad on new haswell motherboards have problems with ipv6 [16:33] that can break switches [16:33] it seems intel want to boost cgnat [16:34] er wat [16:34] you mean Intel mobos? [16:34] i haven't experienced it myself [16:34] or Intel NICs on Haswell mobos? [16:34] but i have that ethernet on my asrock mbd [16:34] i217 is integrated on intel haswell chipsets [16:34] afaik [16:34] i don't think it's the cpu [16:34] some people still use realtek i think [16:34] *** Guest57510 is now known as easymac [16:34] so maybe it costs a few $ to use it [16:35] *** easymac is now known as Guest31534 [16:35] i'm trying to find more detail [16:35] http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19523337.aspx [16:36] that's the best i have so far, it's hearsay for me, from someone who was experiencing issues [16:36] apparently it hits at least hp and dell computers [16:36] https://communities.intel.com/message/225025 [16:36] it may be specific to i217-lm, and when putting computers to sleep it sounds like [16:36] my new Gigabyte mobo has an Intel I217-V NIC [16:37] yeah my new mbd has i217v too [16:37] i never sleep it though [16:37] same [16:37] i217-lm has management [16:37] so i think it's normal on hp/dell and not on consumer boards [16:37] indeed [16:39] according to that post, it seems it's power mgmt wrt eee stuff [16:40] i imagine they tried various things and stopped when they found a fix [16:40] with my friend fixing it by disabling ipv6 [16:40] energy efficient ethernet sucks [16:40] nah it really good [16:41] well some of it is [16:41] it breaks stuff pretty consistently [16:41] the not providiing power to unused ports is good :/ [16:41] intel's implementation of it - we have it disabled on every intel-nic-having-device we have because of issues with the nic dying and whatnot [16:41] the phy dies and requires a reboot to bring it back up because the driver can't do it [16:43] heh [16:47] damn [16:47] i love it how intel are still consdered the best ethernet [16:47] but both broadcom and intel have a lot of bugs [16:47] but then it's like "who's better?" [16:48] there's a run of 82xxx series intel chipsets that have a hardware defect that was resolved in newer hw [16:48] so it's like realtek or broadcom or intel [16:48] none of which are that great [16:48] yea, all in all, i've had the fewest issues w/intel [16:48] ^ [16:48] i've had realtek chipsets just die [16:48] like, flat out, dead [16:48] even newer pcie ones [16:48] oh i had one die [16:48] but it was onboard [16:48] shitty drivers in Linux etc. [16:48] then the wholke motherboard died [16:48] but it was gigabyte board [16:48] i don't trust gigabyte [16:49] i had a board with dual realtek nics, one died, then the other - board still works fine and has an intel ct nic in it [16:49] then had another of those boasrds die [16:49] oh hangon, that one came back to life [16:49] only one died [16:49] the other one was just buggy, and anonying and i'm not using it [16:49] hahaha [16:50] Z87X-UD4H is the new board I got [16:50] it was slightly improved by uefi bios [16:50] this was p67-ud3-bh [16:50] or something [16:50] and newegg says they suck [16:50] http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3651#ov [16:50] also it says one 16x and one 4x [16:50] but it does one 16x and one 1x for some reason [16:51] haha, have anything in either pcie 1x slot? [16:51] the uefi bios doesn't like nkro keyboards [16:51] nah [16:51] nor pci slots [16:52] and 1x is pretty slow [16:52] i wanted video and infiniband [16:52] i'm using asrock board with 4x for infiniband atm [16:52] which isn't too bad.. does up to about 1400 megabytes/sec [16:52] itr could do like 1800megabytes/sec in 8x [16:52] but really at those speeds you're not going to notice other than in benchmarks [16:54] nice [16:54] it's actually quite nice to use [16:54] i can't tell the difference between nfs /home [16:54] im in the market for a small ARM board to replace my rpi [16:54] and local disk [16:54] something beefier [16:55] err and local ssd [16:55] can easily max oui ssd copying over network [16:55] staticsafe: what're you doing w/the pi? [16:55] and can easily do like 150mb/sec+ to seagate hard-disk [16:55] it's nice that seagate hard-disks are so fast now heh [16:55] DHCPv6/DNS resolver/nginx for local stuff [16:55] (just curious, i've seen lots of fun uses for those things) [16:55] i've been waiting for good arm stuff too [16:55] ah, cool [16:56] a lot of them have terrible sata and ethernet [16:56] and memory bandwidth [16:56] i think it's amd that's coming out with what might be the first real arm board [16:56] yeah [16:56] designed for high density server envs [16:56] with dual channel ddr3 etc [16:56] hope it sparks some competition in that market [16:56] *** kevr has quit IRC (Changing host) [16:56] *** kevr has joined #arpnetworks [16:56] hm BeagleBone Black [16:57] beaglebone...? [16:57] hahah [16:57] http://beagleboard.org/Products/BeagleBone+Black [16:57] those cpus are all damn slow [16:57] you could just use an atom :/ [16:57] actually I don't need to replace the rpi, just another ARM board for a second resolver [16:57] oh ok [16:58] why? [16:58] just in case the rpi does for whatever reason [16:58] dies [17:26] *** staticsafe has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) [17:26] *** staticsafe has joined #arpnetworks [17:33] *** staticsafe has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) [17:34] *** staticsafe has joined #arpnetworks [17:35] *** Guest31534 is now known as easymac [17:35] *** easymac is now known as Guest33311 [17:47] *** novae has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [17:49] *** novae has joined #arpnetworks [18:36] *** Guest33311 is now known as easymac [18:36] *** easymac is now known as Guest78307 [18:38] anyone use netmap / VALE before? been reading about it, seems pretty cool [18:38] (in context of building high efficiency software routers) [18:43] i think it's mostly specialised apps [18:43] rather than common routing [19:36] *** Guest78307 is now known as easymac [19:37] *** easymac is now known as Guest44820 [19:50] *** novae has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [19:54] *** novae has joined #arpnetworks [20:33] *** novae has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [20:33] *** novae has joined #arpnetworks [20:37] *** Guest44820 is now known as easymac [20:38] *** easymac is now known as Guest65599 [21:07] *** staticsafe has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) [21:08] *** staticsafe has joined #arpnetworks [21:09] *** mhoran has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:09] *** mhoran has joined #arpnetworks [21:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mhoran [21:10] *** avj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [21:11] *** RandalSchwartz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [21:23] *** novae has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:26] *** novae has joined #arpnetworks [21:38] *** Guest65599 is now known as easymac [21:38] *** easymac is now known as Guest3488 [21:47] mercutio: but it *could* be used for common routing and that would be a sweet project [22:07] *** novae has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:10] *** novae has joined #arpnetworks [22:12] up_the_irons: a lot of work :) [22:13] it would be nice to see pc's becoming better routers [22:13] oh hmm [22:14] i think wand was using netmap or something [22:14] gizmoguy_: ? [22:14] mercutio: not so sure... you'd use BIRD for routing protocols, a fast lookup algorithm to find forwarding interface, then zero-copy forward with netmap [22:14] bet there's a pci card for special tcam asic thingy [22:14] so you can do lookups fast [22:14] it doesn't really matter what routing protocol you use, it's how fast forwarding of lots of random addresses is [22:15] modify BIRD to write to the card [22:15] juniper's load routes slowly [22:15] and people still use them. [22:15] netmap can lookup from the card [22:15] i think the problem with asics is that unless you're doing a lot of them it's cheaper to bu faster cpu, ram etc [22:15] yeah, fast forwarding of random address == tcam lookup + zero-copy forward [22:15] you should be able to handle line rate 1 gigabit small packet sizes without doing aynthing sepcial [22:15] it's 10 gigabit where it starts to get more complicated. [22:16] and if you're doing coalescing it works reasonably well anyway afaik [22:16] native OS stack can't usually touch 1 Mpps [22:16] so where the real smarts come in, is reducing that coalescing delays... reducing jitter, and prioritisng traffic [22:16] so not line rate [22:16] and doing aqm [22:16] which you don't need to inspect the actual packet for [22:16] so you might be able to do zero copy [22:16] but you still have to store the packets somewhere [22:16] so some kind of sram is good for that [22:16] i don't think you should need an actual asic though [22:16] you know that intel are doing super fast ram soon? [22:17] so there'll be a small amount of extra fast low latency ram [22:17] that's integrating on the cpu or such [22:17] mercutio, [22:17] http://imgur.com/snfn2Rs [22:17] hahahaha [22:17] this is me right now, ask me when im more sober :) [22:17] ok [22:18] but yeah the notion of line rate fowrading is complicated [22:18] hah [22:18] http://www.anandtech.com/show/6911/intels-return-to-the-dram-business-haswell-gt3e-to-integrate-128mb-edram [22:18] ok 128mb edram [22:19] gizmoguy_: what are you drinking? [22:19] wait [22:20] but yeah i think for a lot of purposes intel hardware is already fine for 10 gigabit routes [22:20] im at #1 http://imgur.com/lW2aHcD [22:20] routers [22:20] the only caveat is that you might want to have automatic ddos-mitigation [22:20] fancy [22:20] wow [22:21] is that how much you spend a week on alcohol? :) [22:22] lol something like that [22:22] at a whisky tasting :) [22:22] you must make goo dmoney :) [22:23] whisky tasting ftw [22:26] i'm curious about this zero copy forwarding thing now [22:26] i assume scatter gather can handle a lof of the work [22:26] gizmoguy_: enjoy ze whisky :) [22:26] best part: i didnt pay for this [22:26] really? [22:26] you lucky jerk [22:26] m0unds, thnx [22:26] lol [22:27] gizmoguy_: oh what [22:27] that puts things in a completely differnet light [22:27] someone couldnt make it, so i took their ticket [22:27] nice [22:27] and then you came on irc :) [22:27] must be exciting :) [22:28] my phone vibrates when people mention my name :( [22:28]