up_the_irons: xales: roger ***: laotzi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) mnathani: up_the_irons: my condolences toddf: up_the_irons: mbsync user here ..
up_the_irons: the one complaint I have is that it doesn't do IPv6, I have a diff, but its not for the current version
up_the_irons: the pro side of mbsync is much less cpu mike-burns: I've been reading about mbsync today. Might give it a try.
The fact that offlineimap works fine means I don't have much reason to switch ... but mbsync does seem better. toddf: mnathani: the con side is .. if you have an unexpected shutdown (panic, battery loss, etc) sometimes the fs state is not consistent wrt the imap db it creates, so I just remove the whole folder
also, mbsync is a one shot 'sync stuff' command, and then it exits. I've created a 'staggerimap' script that syncs inbox and stuff I want to check frequently .. every 30s .. then every hour it does everything .. ***: jpalmer has joined #arpnetworks
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exm has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) up_the_irons: toddf: you might be interested in this: https://github.com/tim-smart/node-mbsync-watcher
mnathani: danke
toddf: mike-burns : loving mbsync so far. SOOOOOOOOOO much faster than offlineimap.
i practically stopped using offlineimap on certain folders b/c it was so slow
mbsync is orders of magnitude faster, very happy brycec: Out of curiosity... up_the_irons are you pulling from your own mail server, or Gmail? up_the_irons: brycec: own server (dovecot IMAP) brycec: Ah, cool toddf: mbsync has docs on how to do gmail properly also
up_the_irons: thanks up_the_irons: np brycec: heh I'm sure it does. I've always foiynd offlune syncing gmail to be excrutiatingly sloiw. Speeds far below the connection b/w.
*found offline *slow ***: millere has joined #arpnetworks phlux: I wonder how difficult it would be to just replace the wifi card in this Thinkpad.. ***: millere is now known as exm brycec: Thinkpads are fairly repairable, just a matter of swapping the card. m0unds: phlux: if it's just one of those little minicard ones, not too hard phlux: I have no idea what's inside of this thing
I don't even know what model it is
I just know it's a Lenovo Thinkpad Edge that I got for cheap brycec: Nice. I too have an Thinkpad Edge of some sort phlux: Got this one on a woot sale
Couldn't pass it up brycec: Oh mine was a Thinkpad X130e, from 1SaleADay phlux: I know I have an AMD Turion II..
I wonder if that can narrow it down? brycec: It probably can, yes phlux: http://www.cnet.com/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-edge-15/4505-3121_7-35127154.html
that looks like it
except I have 8GB of RAM
and I don't remember if I did that myself or not.. brycec: So based on list of networking choices, it's very likely a minipcie slot.
Look underneath for a rectangular cover with a screw. One will likely be RAM, another probably the wireless. No guarantees, but this is how Thinkpads usually are built. phlux: Ah..they're underneath, eh? brycec: As opposed to inside? Yes! ***: sirtrip123 has joined #arpnetworks
sirtrip123 has quit IRC (Quit: .) phlux: Ok, that was dumb.
It's right underneath my trackpad
Which is a pain in the ass to get to. I had to remove my CD drive -_-
at least I know what it is now, though
mini pcie is correct
It's got two little antennas connected to it as well
so, should go intel?
even though this is an AMD chipset? m0unds: yeah
intel wlan stuff is good brycec: And has nothing to do with AMD chipset/cpu m0unds: that too phlux: http://www.amazon.com/Realtek-Rtl8191se-Wireless-802-11b-150mbps/dp/B008XF1NHI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1392850236&sr=8-2&keywords=RTL8191SE BryceBot: Amazon: "Realtek Rtl8191se Hlaf Mini Pci-e Half Hight Wireless Wlan Card 802.11b/g/n 2.4 Ghz 150mbps" phlux: Looks like that's what's in there
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Wifi-5100-MiniPCI--512AN_HMW/dp/B009UNKSH8/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1392850276&sr=8-8&keywords=intel+minipcie m0unds: http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-SNCVM630/ demoing one of these today - looks fantastic BryceBot: Amazon: "Intel Wifi 5100 Half Size MiniPCI-e 512AN_HMW 300m card" phlux: Looks like that'll work brycec: And under $2k!, It's a steal, m0unds phlux: Looks like that'd be covered by iwlwifi brycec: Oh that's cool, simultaneous analog and IP video. phlux: What about an atheros card? brycec: Alsogood.
Honestly, I don't know of any "not good" cards... there's just "unsupported," "supported", and "well supported" m0unds: yea
our price is 898 for these phlux: well
then it has to be this shitty network extender then brycec: m0unds: shit, that's a discount phlux: -then m0unds: yup mercutio: you can get cards that mini-pcie
err that take mini pci-e so you can plug antennas in brycec: "mini-pcie" isn't a verb mercutio: yeh words coming out wrong
i haven't tried wireless ac yet
but even my old intel wiresless isn't that bad
4965AGN or something
and those are real cheap on ebay, .. and probably better than those realtek
oh he was looking for straight mini pci-e anyway
phlux: hp lock laptops for what cards they can take, i dunno if lennovo do anything as annoying brycec: I kickstarted the Almond+, looking forward to trying out AC. So far, only my N5 has an ac adapter.
I've only ever heard of HP doing the lock-in game these days. mercutio: ok
well my laptop is locked, but it has intel wireless already
only problem is that it doesn't do as high speeds on 2.4 ghz
but in real world usage it tends to do ok at distance, and at short range, but i haven't really tried in between
i dunno how reliable 2.4/5 ghz switchover is
it's single stream in 2.4 though :(
but ime single stream tends to be more reliable anyway m0unds: yea, unlicensed wireless is getting ridiculous in terms of interference
so the fewer streams, the more reliable your link will likely be mercutio: yeah i don't think 40 mhz 2.4 ghz should exist
apparently in the US they have less channels to play with, so it's probably even worse.
but some routers have been forcing 40 mhz without backing down to 20 mhz when adjacent channels are used making the situation worse. m0unds: yea. lots of isps have done a really poor job of educating customers about the featuresets of the cpes they provide. some people will buy another router and will run it in tandem with the isp-provided one brycec: NOISE! m0unds: my neighborhood is just full of generic ISP networks, then a bunch of consumerjunk router ssids
myqwest09123488, etc brycec: heh m0unds: i think there's something like 12 within range of my house brycec: I have 30. :((
It might be more than 30... the list may just cap at 30... but it's fucking terrible m0unds: oh, sorry
40
hahahah brycec: ha m0unds: it was 12 qwest brycec: (I suspect my list is simply capped then) m0unds: still 12 (mix of qwest and centurylink-named ssids)
there's one called "setup"
adhoc network
haha brycec: Probably an HP thinger m0unds: barely even hanging on - -97dBm
here's a fun one - 40MHz 2.4GHz primary, 40MHz 2.4GHz guest network brycec: Can you have a guest network on the same radio with different characteristics? I don't think so. m0unds: err, second is 5ghz
err, first is
i can barely see the 5GHz radio
probably my redneck neighbor brycec: Not uncommon, shorter wavelengths require more power to travel the same distance as a shroter wavelength -: m0unds does lots of wireless
brycec does too, General class license m0unds: cool
ours is all unlicensed gear because it's mostly shorthaul to areas where we have no conduit for cable
proxim and solectek
not a huge fan of wireless for video though but it is what it is, haha brycec: I wish I had a reason for such tech m0unds: one of our pole mounts was the source of the wasp(s) i found - we demo'd a bunch of cameras in a construction area and the wasps were just hanging out mercutio: damn i hate wasps :)
30? 40?
i fret when i see 6
i had annoyances copying files to local computer at the same time as using internet
half-duplex ftw ***: exm has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
exm has joined #arpnetworks exm: Is more than 24h to get a VPS normal? RandalSchwartz: can sometimes take 48h
typically under 24h though exm: Okay. Bought one last night about 1900, so I was curious. Thanks RandalSchwartz: 1900 GMT - 8 ? exm: 1900 GMT - 5
Sorry RandalSchwartz: ahh, so not even close to 24h then :) exm: It's now 2000 GMT - 5, 25h RandalSchwartz: Oh - I did the wrong math -: RandalSchwartz whacks his clock up_the_irons: actually 24h is the max now
i really don't like leaving customers hanging for 2 days
something happened to exm's order
exm: if you submit a new order i'll process it right now exm: up_the_irons: Thanks, I'll do that. Curiosity - do you take bitcoin? up_the_irons: exm: not yet RandalSchwartz: please never take fake currency like that. :) exm: up_the_irons: Okay, thanks. CC it is up_the_irons: thanks exm: RandalSchwartz: fake is relative :P RandalSchwartz: ok - then "volatile"
it's like paying with venezuelan dollars
or pesos
or whatever they have hazardous: something i've always wanted to know is what essence is. like my flavoured seltzer has an incredibly strong orange smell but it tastes like virtually plain water and i wish it had more flavour
sorry, wrong window exm: Yeah. Most people who accept it use CoinBase or BitPay and cash out immediately
up_the_irons: Order submitted RandalSchwartz: Ukranian hryvnia for now
up_the_irons - can you take the hryvnia please?
or Nambian dollars? up_the_irons: exm: creating now, stay tuned hazardous: up_the_irons: do you take that island country's currency where they roll a 3 ton carved stone with a transaction ledger on it in hieroglyphics to your door
;p; up_the_irons: whoa staticsafe: hazardous: you mean new zealand? -: staticsafe hides from mercutio staticsafe: :) hazardous: hahaha
bitcoin 0.1 alpha
"public" "transaction" "ledger" mercutio: what country is that hazardous RandalSchwartz: ancient aztec or mayan culture, I think up_the_irons: exm: you're all set exm: up_the_irons: Thanks so much! mercutio: heh bitcoin is not yet? up_the_irons: no problem! mercutio: rather than no exm: I bought the domain I'm using with bitcoin.
Easier than credit card.
And I trust the crypto, since I've analyzed most of it
But that's an argument for another channel
up_the_irons: In, thank you. up_the_irons: exm: awesome mercutio: ho hmm i been a customer 3 years now
i was struggling to remember how long setup took hazardous: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai_stones BryceBot: Rai stones :: Rai, or stone money (Yapese: raay), are large, circular stone disks carved out of limestone formed from aragonite and calcite crystals. Rai stones were quarried on several of the Micronesian islands, mainly Palau, but briefly on Guam as well, and transported for use as money to the island of Yap. They have been used in trade by the Yapese as a form of currency. While the monetary system of Yap appears to use these giant... hazardous: huh.
"Rai stones were, and still are, used" mnathani: exm: this channel is quite liberal with its acceptable topics list
in other words feel free to discuss bit coin crypto
I am sure others will also find interest in the topic -: brycec does not, but I can keep my mouth shut m0unds: brycec LIES brycec: I *can* CaZe: hazardous: They're more like stadiums now. staticsafe: m0unds: http://www.twitch.tv/planetside2 m0unds: fun
wish i wasn't n an aircard :/
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exm has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) jpalmer: so, it's been a while since I've played with html. Is there a way to make a basic header and footer template, and then include them from all other pages WITHOUT loading something heavy like PHP, or ruby, or similar?
actually, nevermind. I'll eventually need to make database calls, so I'll need something heavy. ***: solj has joined #arpnetworks brycec: javascript
It's inelegant, but it qualified as "static pages" for me :)
Essentially, boiled down to $(document).ready(function() { $("#page_content").load("templates/some.html"); }
jquery, obviously m0unds: yay, fantastic mr fox