[01:36] Any one try fastmail's new Calendar beta? [02:25] I looked at it when they first announced it, but it wasn't enough for me to switch from Google's Calendar. [03:20] *** josephb has joined #arpnetworks [04:24] *** tehfink has joined #arpnetworks [06:32] *** tehfink has quit IRC (Quit: tehfink) [08:57] *** solj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:16] *** solj has joined #arpnetworks [09:22] *** solj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [09:28] *** solj has joined #arpnetworks [11:53] oy - rel humidity in albuquerque is 9% [12:47] That doesn't sound unusual [12:47] When I lived in Phx, 7-9% was normal. [12:47] @weather ABQ [12:47] Albuquerque International Sunport, NM: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 62°F (17°C), Humidity: 9%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=35.04166794,-106.61472321 or re-request this with: @weather -v ABQ [12:48] @weather PHX [12:48] Phoenix Sky Harbor International, AZ: Partly Cloudy ☁ 81°F (27°C), Humidity: 14%, Wind: From the Variable at 4 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33.42770004,-112.00379944 or re-request this with: @weather -v PHX [12:48] heh [12:55] @weather OKC [12:55] Will Rogers World, OK: Clear 65°F (18°C), Humidity: 20%, Wind: From the NNW at 9 MPH Gusting to 18 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=35.38861084,-97.60028076 or re-request this with: @weather -v OKC [12:56] @weather 83854 [12:56] Post Falls, ID: Overcast ☁ 41°F (5°C), Humidity: 75%, Wind: From the WSW at 11 MPH Gusting to 14.0 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=47.712502,-116.951797 or re-request this with: @weather -v 83854 [13:21] @weather 94107 [13:21] San Francisco, CA: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 59°F (15°C), Humidity: 60%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=37.774124,-122.396362 or re-request this with: @weather -v 94107 [13:21] i jsut realised something [13:21] weather.com is 'powered by wunderground' [13:22] i never noticed the tiny powered by icon [13:22] until today [13:22] wtf [13:22] wait, i need to not be sleep deprived [13:22] :o [13:22] because i'm sure i've seen it before [13:24] what? hazardous where do you see that? [13:25] Heh I see that weather.com points @ wunderground for "Weather API" [13:25] Ahhh In July 2012, Weather Underground became part of The Weather Channel Companies. [13:29] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [13:32] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [13:45] weird. right on 3 street promenade, some grizzled guy asked me if I wanted a blow job for $5. (Looking back on it, I think it was a sting.) But when I said "no way", he replied "don't you like to get off?" and I yelled back (as I kept walking) "not from a guy" [13:45] santa monica, you've gone downhill. :) [13:46] o_o [13:47] lol [13:47] wierd [13:48] santa monica owns [13:48] Is $5 a high price now? [13:48] i was there recently [13:48] but never got offered blowjob :( [13:49] I was there last summer... Nobody offered me a bj, not even my fiancee. :p [13:55] *** terabit has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [14:56] up_the_irons: ping [14:57] ttl=12hrs [14:57] heh [14:58] I'll send in a support ticket. wanted to run something by him first. [15:45] wth is this syntax: person.(self, :name, :age) [15:45] (Ruby) [15:45] from here: https://github.com/rails/jbuilder [15:46] *** Nat_RH has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [15:47] * brycec avoids Ruby entirely :) [15:55] * RandalSchwartz also avoids ruby [15:55] bastard child of perl and smalltalk [16:53] *** solj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [17:05] *** solj has joined #arpnetworks [17:31] <3 Ruby [17:43] up_the_irons: New Proc#call syntax! [17:43] "new", since 2.0. [17:43] (Or, anything #call, since it's just a syntax extension.) [17:43] mhoran: wow ok [17:43] looks f'in strange [17:44] Yeah the first time I saw it, I was super confused. But then I started using it everywhere. [17:44] (Also, not even sure how you'd "google" that.) [17:50] you think that's hard? try googling for anything to do with APL :) [17:58] Hah, yup. [18:01] if you can even type it on your keyboard. :) [18:06] what about D programming language? [18:07] there's no good limiting support with google it seems [18:27] hard to google for stuff about C# too [18:27] what was M$ thinking? :) [18:55] use ddg :) [22:05] I'm putting in Precise support into our kvr Puppet manifests. Thinking going straight to Precise may be wise. Lucid now only has a year left of support. Man that came fast! [22:08] fortunately, it looks like the difference between Lucid and Precise is not nearly as much as from Jaunty to Lucid [22:24] is there a roadmap like timeframe for the kvm host updates mentioned a while ago? (since you're on the topic of upgrades..) [22:26] toddf: nothing in stone, but I'd like to upgrade kvr04 within the next two weeks, and then move up from there [22:27] the situation is getting to the point where i'm not putting new VMs on the older hosts, and this is a big constraint [22:28] so i gotta move forward on that [22:29] heh. kvr14 is where I'll be seein your efforts first. looking forward to it. I presume this will then move the various kvr systems to similar levels as kvr27/28 ? [22:30] * CaZe wonders what the uptime of kvr10 is. [22:30] $ ssh kvr10 uptime [22:30] 22:18:54 up 1323 days, 20:22, 1 user, load average: 3.39, 3.44, 3.43 [22:30] jesus [22:30] I've noted that even with 'disable mpbios' there is some sort of timer OpenBSD looses within a few hours or so on kvr14 and kvr22, 'systat vmstat 1' never refreshes as a result, kvr27/kvr28 work fine however [22:31] hosts with over 1000 days of uptime, I may hold off. By definition they are running very well :) [22:31] i have enough hosts to go around [22:31] how many actual cores and sockets does kvr10 have? [22:31] toddf: little bugs like that are the motivator for a lot of this; otherwise, the hosts are running fine. [22:32] mnathani: 2 sockets, 4 cores each [22:32] heh. will you be giving some automated message to vps people on the systems so they can e.g. not plan on critical 'do not interrupt' stuff and be surprised the next morning? ;-) [22:32] well, of course, i will send notifications :) [22:32] Yeah, I knew it was at least 600 days. [22:33] Well, at least 700. [22:33] yeah [22:33] My ARP two-year anniversery is coming up. :D [22:33] up_the_irons: probably 16 / 32 gigs of ram or more? [22:33] oh does this mean virtio for all? [22:33] CaZe: :) [22:34] mnathani: all hosts have at least 32g. some 48g. and all new ones have 64g [22:34] i think the host i was on rebooted once [22:34] i am on even [22:34] i may make kvr30 have 128g soon (kinda running low and it still has juice for more VMs) [22:34] up_the_irons: so the idea is lucid -> precise -> then in a couple of years, trusty? [22:36] mercutio: most of the nodes are still jaunty, so it'll go straight to precise if my first couple upgrades are successful [22:36] oh wow [22:36] since that is a large jump, i am actually planning to do a complete re-install [22:36] i used to juse jaunty [22:36] well of cousre, i used most releases [22:36] an entire install doesn't take too long.. like 15 minutes [22:37] so there'll be 30 minutes downtime say? [22:37] yeah [22:37] up_the_irons: will you be doing the install on a spare chasis then importing all the vms into it and promoting it to the appropriate KVM host [22:37] it seems weird to upgrade to precise with trusty just around the corner [22:38] but kvm could introduce issues i suppsoe [22:38] mercutio: i don't do bleeding edge [22:38] mnathani: how would that work? [22:38] mnathani: no, it'll be in-place [22:38] up_the_irons: i meant holding off until trusty is out [22:38] which is the next lts [22:38] but yeah i suppose it'd still be new [22:39] mercutio: precise is still new enough [22:39] precise isn't too bad actually [22:39] quantal and raring are a bit iffy [22:39] quantal especially [22:41] i wonder if it'll make much cpu usage difference [22:41] the non virtio probably uses more cpu [22:41] oh, but changing version doesn't necessarily mean changing to virtio [22:42] 01:29:34 <@toddf> I've noted that even with 'disable mpbios' there is some sort of timer OpenBSD looses within a few hours or so on kvr14 and kvr22, 'systat vmstat 1' never refreshes as a result, kvr27/kvr28 work fine however [22:42] I get "The alternate system clock has died!" on kvr10. [22:42] caze: i got some 0% cpu bug at oen point [22:43] never noticed any porblems from it though [22:43] only real issue i've had is random network hangs in dmesg [22:43] but it doesn't seem that common normally [22:43] Also, just "systat" never refreshes, with no message. [22:46] oh and vnc is slow [22:46] oh? [22:46] try systat 1 [22:46] seems to refresh for me [22:46] "The alternate system clock has died!" [22:46] sysstat without takes a while but still refreshes [22:47] caze: on 5.5? [22:47] maybe you on diff hw than me [22:47] mercutio: snapshot [22:47] mercutio: I'm on kvr10. [22:47] or differnt oS [22:47] i'm on 1x something [22:47] i dunno [22:47] cpu0: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1 ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 2.59 GHz [22:47] bios0: vendor QEMU version "QEMU" date 01/01/2007 [22:47] if that shows version somehow [22:48] i'm on kvr15 [22:49] my T61 just died on battery, and now the battery light is blinking.. damn i hope the battery isn't toast [22:49] caze@lentil:~> sysctl kern.version [22:49] kern.version=OpenBSD 5.5-beta (GENERIC) #236: Fri Jan 24 11:44:07 MST 2014 todd@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC [22:49] kern.version=OpenBSD 5.5-beta (BEN) #0: Sat Feb 15 18:26:21 NZDT 2014 [22:49] i only just did the update [22:49] it was a pita :/ [22:50] I just did a fresh install. [22:50] oh true [22:50] My previous installation was from June of last year. [22:50] there's no serial console installer option :/ [22:50] probably have to do set tty com0 or something [22:50] then it wouldn't be as annoying to install [22:51] do you reinstall often? [22:51] io think i upgraded from 4.7 through 5.3 [22:51] No. [22:51] But I knew I had to deal with the time_t thing, and a few other things. [22:51] i'm using i386 too [22:51] maybe that mskes a diff [22:51] cos i had 256mb ram initially [22:51] yeah that time_t thing is annoying [22:52] So I just did a fresh install. [22:52] Installing from the serial console is really easy. [22:52] I don't even really remember doing anything special. [22:52] hmm you still have to use vnc to make it use serial don't you [22:53] i'm pretty sure i have serial setup for normal [22:53] or does it automagically work? [22:53] No. [22:53] I've used VNC exactly once ever. [22:53] heh [22:53] And only because I blew away my bootloader. [22:54] Ah, I have "set tty com0" in /etc/boot.conf [22:55] As well as "set timeout 60" [22:55] "stty com0 9600"