mike-burns: I looked at it when they first announced it, but it wasn't enough for me to switch from Google's Calendar. ***: josephb has joined #arpnetworks
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solj has joined #arpnetworks m0unds: oy - rel humidity in albuquerque is 9% brycec: That doesn't sound unusual
When I lived in Phx, 7-9% was normal.
@weather ABQ BryceBot: Albuquerque International Sunport, NM: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 62°F (17°C), Humidity: 9%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=35.04166794,-106.61472321 or re-request this with: @weather -v ABQ brycec: @weather PHX BryceBot: Phoenix Sky Harbor International, AZ: Partly Cloudy ☁ 81°F (27°C), Humidity: 14%, Wind: From the Variable at 4 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33.42770004,-112.00379944 or re-request this with: @weather -v PHX brycec: heh toddf: @weather OKC BryceBot: Will Rogers World, OK: Clear 65°F (18°C), Humidity: 20%, Wind: From the NNW at 9 MPH Gusting to 18 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=35.38861084,-97.60028076 or re-request this with: @weather -v OKC brycec: @weather 83854 BryceBot: Post Falls, ID: Overcast ☁ 41°F (5°C), Humidity: 75%, Wind: From the WSW at 11 MPH Gusting to 14.0 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=47.712502,-116.951797 or re-request this with: @weather -v 83854 hazardous: @weather 94107 BryceBot: San Francisco, CA: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 59°F (15°C), Humidity: 60%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=37.774124,-122.396362 or re-request this with: @weather -v 94107 hazardous: i jsut realised something
weather.com is 'powered by wunderground'
i never noticed the tiny powered by icon
until today
wtf
wait, i need to not be sleep deprived staticsafe: :o hazardous: because i'm sure i've seen it before brycec: what? hazardous where do you see that?
Heh I see that weather.com points @ wunderground for "Weather API"
Ahhh In July 2012, Weather Underground became part of The Weather Channel Companies. ***: hive-mind has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: weird. right on 3 street promenade, some grizzled guy asked me if I wanted a blow job for $5. (Looking back on it, I think it was a sting.) But when I said "no way", he replied "don't you like to get off?" and I yelled back (as I kept walking) "not from a guy"
santa monica, you've gone downhill. :) staticsafe: o_o milki: lol
wierd hazardous: santa monica owns mike-burns: Is $5 a high price now? hazardous: i was there recently
but never got offered blowjob :( brycec: I was there last summer... Nobody offered me a bj, not even my fiancee. :p ***: terabit has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) jpalmer: up_the_irons: ping brycec: ttl=12hrs jpalmer: heh
I'll send in a support ticket. wanted to run something by him first. up_the_irons: wth is this syntax: person.(self, :name, :age)
(Ruby)
from here: https://github.com/rails/jbuilder ***: Nat_RH has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) -: brycec avoids Ruby entirely :)
RandalSchwartz also avoids ruby RandalSchwartz: bastard child of perl and smalltalk ***: solj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
solj has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: <3 Ruby mhoran: up_the_irons: New Proc#call syntax!
"new", since 2.0.
(Or, anything #call, since it's just a syntax extension.) up_the_irons: mhoran: wow ok
looks f'in strange mhoran: Yeah the first time I saw it, I was super confused. But then I started using it everywhere.
(Also, not even sure how you'd "google" that.) RandalSchwartz: you think that's hard? try googling for anything to do with APL :) mhoran: Hah, yup. RandalSchwartz: if you can even type it on your keyboard. :) mercutio: what about D programming language?
there's no good limiting support with google it seems RandalSchwartz: hard to google for stuff about C# too
what was M$ thinking? :) m0unds: use ddg :) up_the_irons: I'm putting in Precise support into our kvr Puppet manifests. Thinking going straight to Precise may be wise. Lucid now only has a year left of support. Man that came fast!
fortunately, it looks like the difference between Lucid and Precise is not nearly as much as from Jaunty to Lucid toddf: is there a roadmap like timeframe for the kvm host updates mentioned a while ago? (since you're on the topic of upgrades..) up_the_irons: toddf: nothing in stone, but I'd like to upgrade kvr04 within the next two weeks, and then move up from there
the situation is getting to the point where i'm not putting new VMs on the older hosts, and this is a big constraint
so i gotta move forward on that toddf: heh. kvr14 is where I'll be seein your efforts first. looking forward to it. I presume this will then move the various kvr systems to similar levels as kvr27/28 ? -: CaZe wonders what the uptime of kvr10 is. up_the_irons: $ ssh kvr10 uptime
22:18:54 up 1323 days, 20:22, 1 user, load average: 3.39, 3.44, 3.43
jesus toddf: I've noted that even with 'disable mpbios' there is some sort of timer OpenBSD looses within a few hours or so on kvr14 and kvr22, 'systat vmstat 1' never refreshes as a result, kvr27/kvr28 work fine however up_the_irons: hosts with over 1000 days of uptime, I may hold off. By definition they are running very well :)
i have enough hosts to go around mnathani: how many actual cores and sockets does kvr10 have? up_the_irons: toddf: little bugs like that are the motivator for a lot of this; otherwise, the hosts are running fine.
mnathani: 2 sockets, 4 cores each toddf: heh. will you be giving some automated message to vps people on the systems so they can e.g. not plan on critical 'do not interrupt' stuff and be surprised the next morning? ;-) up_the_irons: well, of course, i will send notifications :) CaZe: Yeah, I knew it was at least 600 days.
Well, at least 700. up_the_irons: yeah CaZe: My ARP two-year anniversery is coming up. :D mnathani: up_the_irons: probably 16 / 32 gigs of ram or more? mercutio: oh does this mean virtio for all? up_the_irons: CaZe: :)
mnathani: all hosts have at least 32g. some 48g. and all new ones have 64g mercutio: i think the host i was on rebooted once
i am on even up_the_irons: i may make kvr30 have 128g soon (kinda running low and it still has juice for more VMs) mercutio: up_the_irons: so the idea is lucid -> precise -> then in a couple of years, trusty? up_the_irons: mercutio: most of the nodes are still jaunty, so it'll go straight to precise if my first couple upgrades are successful mercutio: oh wow up_the_irons: since that is a large jump, i am actually planning to do a complete re-install mercutio: i used to juse jaunty
well of cousre, i used most releases up_the_irons: an entire install doesn't take too long.. like 15 minutes mercutio: so there'll be 30 minutes downtime say? up_the_irons: yeah mnathani: up_the_irons: will you be doing the install on a spare chasis then importing all the vms into it and promoting it to the appropriate KVM host mercutio: it seems weird to upgrade to precise with trusty just around the corner
but kvm could introduce issues i suppsoe up_the_irons: mercutio: i don't do bleeding edge mercutio: mnathani: how would that work? up_the_irons: mnathani: no, it'll be in-place mercutio: up_the_irons: i meant holding off until trusty is out
which is the next lts
but yeah i suppose it'd still be new up_the_irons: mercutio: precise is still new enough mercutio: precise isn't too bad actually
quantal and raring are a bit iffy
quantal especially
i wonder if it'll make much cpu usage difference
the non virtio probably uses more cpu
oh, but changing version doesn't necessarily mean changing to virtio CaZe: 01:29:34 <@toddf> I've noted that even with 'disable mpbios' there is some sort of timer OpenBSD looses within a few hours or so on kvr14 and kvr22, 'systat vmstat 1' never refreshes as a result, kvr27/kvr28 work fine however
I get "The alternate system clock has died!" on kvr10. mercutio: caze: i got some 0% cpu bug at oen point
never noticed any porblems from it though
only real issue i've had is random network hangs in dmesg
but it doesn't seem that common normally CaZe: Also, just "systat" never refreshes, with no message. mercutio: oh and vnc is slow
oh?
try systat 1
seems to refresh for me CaZe: "The alternate system clock has died!" mercutio: sysstat without takes a while but still refreshes
caze: on 5.5?
maybe you on diff hw than me CaZe: mercutio: snapshot
mercutio: I'm on kvr10. mercutio: or differnt oS
i'm on 1x something
i dunno
cpu0: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1 ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 2.59 GHz
bios0: vendor QEMU version "QEMU" date 01/01/2007
if that shows version somehow
i'm on kvr15 up_the_irons: my T61 just died on battery, and now the battery light is blinking.. damn i hope the battery isn't toast CaZe: caze@lentil:~> sysctl kern.version
kern.version=OpenBSD 5.5-beta (GENERIC) #236: Fri Jan 24 11:44:07 MST 2014 todd@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC mercutio: kern.version=OpenBSD 5.5-beta (BEN) #0: Sat Feb 15 18:26:21 NZDT 2014
i only just did the update
it was a pita :/ CaZe: I just did a fresh install. mercutio: oh true CaZe: My previous installation was from June of last year. mercutio: there's no serial console installer option :/
probably have to do set tty com0 or something
then it wouldn't be as annoying to install
do you reinstall often?
io think i upgraded from 4.7 through 5.3 CaZe: No.
But I knew I had to deal with the time_t thing, and a few other things. mercutio: i'm using i386 too
maybe that mskes a diff
cos i had 256mb ram initially
yeah that time_t thing is annoying CaZe: So I just did a fresh install.
Installing from the serial console is really easy.
I don't even really remember doing anything special. mercutio: hmm you still have to use vnc to make it use serial don't you
i'm pretty sure i have serial setup for normal
or does it automagically work? CaZe: No.
I've used VNC exactly once ever. mercutio: heh CaZe: And only because I blew away my bootloader.
Ah, I have "set tty com0" in /etc/boot.conf
As well as "set timeout 60"
"stty com0 9600"