#arpnetworks 2014-02-05,Wed

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up_the_ironseven though i maintain IRR stuff for our own routes and customer routes, i've never used RtConfig myself
i typed in: "@RtConfig access_list filter AS-ARPNET"
and practically shit my pants
up_the_irons hugs RtConfig
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mercutiohttp://aceattorney.sparklin.org/jeu.php?id_proces=57684
(some video type thing about the debian sysvinit/systemd/upstart/openrc debate)
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mercutiohas arp got a problem
i can't trace past ntt
not even hitting their core router
oh i thinko ntt issue
it's fallen over to mzima now
oh coresite down too?
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brycecmercutio: hm, yeah trying to traceroute to 8.8.8.8 from is failing [17:36]
m0unds_yep [17:36]
mercutioyeh i'm bouncing in
it /was/ working back to me temp
dropbear has this cool tcp port bouncing thing btw
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meingtslai think any2 is doing emergency maintenance of some sort [17:37]
mercutioyou can do dbclient user@host,user@host [17:37]
brycecmercutio: but I can traceroute to another VPS in another DC in LA [17:37]
mercutioand it'll bounce through the first host to the second
with tcp port forward so still secure
and using your key for both hosts
[17:37]
brycec(And who is "trit.net"? that's a new hit) [17:37]
mercutiotrit.net isn't new
it's only showing up because ntt and coresite seem down?
which suggests the new router beign down?
dunno
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mercutioup_the_irons should fill us in
i'm sure he got alerted
i still thought i should check twitter
nothing there :)
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brycecheh, it's new to me [17:38]
mercutiooh it's back
well mzima is working
[17:39]
brycec+1 for Twitter mobile notifications :p [17:39]
m0unds_yea [17:39]
brycecyep, looking better [17:39]
mercutioit went then came back then went then came back from pov [17:39]
brycecnot fixed, but better [17:39]
m0unds_oh yeah, trit.net [17:39]
brycec@google trit.net [17:39]
BryceBotGoogle API failure :( [17:39]
bryceclol [17:39]
m0unds_hah [17:39]
bryceccURL_error: name lookup timed out [17:39]
mercutiogoing faster too
oh coresite still down
[17:40]
brycec@google trit.net [17:40]
BryceBotSearching for 'www.trit.net' instead.
467,000 total results returned for 'www.trit.net', here's 3
Tri-T Baseball.net - Home (http://www.tritbaseball.net/) Home of the Tri-T Baseball League and affiliated teams.
TRIT.NET (http://www.trit.net/) Trit Networks. Software, network, and security engineering. IP transit and colocation in Los Angeles and Amsterdam. Web site coming soon! Contact: ...
Trit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trit) Trit. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Jump to: navigation, search. Trit may refer to: Ternary digit, see Ternary numeral system · Tirit ...
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brycecwoo [17:40]
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up_the_ironsntt session dropped [17:40]
brycec"website coming soon" they must be new
cool!
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mercutioup_the_irons: ahh [17:41]
up_the_ironsany2 has also re-IP'd everyone [17:41]
mercutiowhat
oh so any2ix was already down?
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up_the_ironsmigrating from /24 -> /23 but in a different range [17:41]
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mercutiothat's weird
but i suppose more people on it now
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mercutioi saw problems with ntt yesterday btw
like 8% packet loss or something
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crazedbgp flap? [17:42]
mercutioso i dunno if ntt is having issues in general or what [17:42]
m0unds_ntt's been kinda crappy for a bit (congested coming off centurylink) [17:42]
mercutiothis was starting ntt to ntt i think
i mean i think it was ntt issue rather than interlink issue
i didn't really care that much at the time
i just thought "that's strange"
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kevrcan i talk to someone here about changing my cust.arpnetworks.com subdomain? [17:48]
brycecThose sorts of things are best addressed to support@arpnetworks.com [17:55]
kevralright. thanks [17:55]
up_the_ironskevr: just change it in your server
those are auto-gen'd, if you don't like it, we can just delete it
[17:56]
kevrup_the_irons: it seems when my account was setup, they used the name on the billing info for it, but i'd like to use another name for the account on arpnetworks
up_the_irons: also, i wanted to remove a few things like the vnc and VM management
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up_the_ironskevr: those cannot be rmoved [17:58]
kevrah k i'll just deal with it in iptables then, no problem [17:58]
up_the_ironskevr: but we can remove the cust.arpnetworks.com subdomain if you're not comfortable with it
it only exists in our DNS
[17:58]
bryceckevr: VNC access connects to the host, not your VPS. Your iptables cannot manage VNC access. [17:59]
kevrup_the_irons: sure, the only thing is every service requiring the username.cust.arpnetworks.com wants a username thats different than what i'd prefer, which would be my name instead of the name on the billing address
ah i see.
up_the_irons: should i just direct this all to support@ instead of discussing it here? :P
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up_the_ironskevr: sure :) [18:00]
kevralright. thanks for the info. [18:00]
mercutiooh it down again [18:02]
brycecSo it is. [18:02]
mercutiomaybe ntt shouldn't be brought back up for a bit
weird it's going via rpint/trit
oh i see
:)
err spring
i see the trit now heh
now it ntt/nlayer/mzmia
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up_the_ironshmmm... [18:04]
mercutioand down again [18:04]
up_the_ironswth [18:04]
mercutioi thjnk ntt should be forced down :)
i dunno why it fine ntt->nlayer->mzima
it also seems strange that ntt aren't dampening it
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up_the_ironsthis is annoying.. [18:05]
brycecI agree.. [18:06]
mercutiothat why i thought prob safer to just shut ntt down temp
and log a fault
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kevralso, what's up with the arpnetworks user, is that safe for me to remove? [18:06]
mercutioit's up again on ntt heh [18:06]
bryceckevr: yes. See the FAQ article about it. [18:06]
mercutiokeyr: it's in hte knowledge base [18:06]
kevrgotcha [18:06]
brycechttp://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/can-i-delete-the-arpnetworks-user-on-my-vps [18:07]
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up_the_ironsi'm working with our Any2 VLAN too, i'm sure this is not all NTT's fault. When I bring up that VLAN on s7.lax, i get problems, but it takes a while, wtf... [18:07]
mercutiodo they have mac on both? [18:07]
brycec(mmm, vlan all the things) [18:07]
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up_the_ironswonder if I should nuke Any2 on s1.lax
hmm.. can't with IPv6
bah, damn migrations...
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up_the_ironsbtw guys, Level 3 circuit is coming in a few weeks; it's official now, i inked all the paperwork this week [18:27]
brycecYay, should be pretty solid transit (right?) [18:28]
up_the_ironstherefore crappy nLayer packet loss should be a thing of the past
brycec: Level 3 is like the #1 network in the world; i sure hope it is solid :)
i've received positive recommendations from others
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brycecI've heard good things in general, but I don't run in those circles, so what do I know.
My only personal dealing with L3 was with SIP termination (and origination, I think)
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up_the_ironsI like how Level 3 uses IRR correctly. No more dealing with manually updating prefix lists. [18:30]
brycecAwesome. It's as if they know what they're doing or something. [18:30]
up_the_ironshaha right [18:32]
mercutioup_the_irons: oh cool level3 [18:35]
up_the_irons:) [18:36]
mercutioi don't really like level3 being so big and all
but also from that pov, it's safer being on them
and they suck way less than cogent
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brycec...that's not saying much. [18:36]
mercutiothey're not that bad
they cost more than other providers normally
but having few huge companies tends to be less optimal
than more smaller companies
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brycecMy point is that Cogent is generally regarded as crap. Saying "less bad" than crap isn't much of a statement. [18:42]
easymacCogent is really good at dropping packets though, you gotta give them that. [18:44]
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m0unds_yea, cogent is fantastic at dropping packets [18:47]
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m0unds_Cogent - "We drop packets so you don't have to" [18:47]
mercutiobut they cheap [18:47]
easymacCogent - Where Packets Go To Die (tm) [18:48]
kevroh okay, there's a problem with the DC atm? [18:48]
easymacProbably Cogent's fault. [18:48]
kevr=p [18:48]
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m0unds_dsjhfdsjfkh. my route home from work is closed due to inclement weather.
GAH
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mercutiomaybe you should stay at work
kevr: there was problem with some routes erarlier
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kevric [18:50]
mercutiolike an hour ago or something
it didn't last long
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staticsafeugh ipv6 is dead [18:56]
mercutiotime for ipv8? [18:56]
m0unds_go for ipv10 or go home [18:58]
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m0unds_ipv6 seems ok for me [19:07]
up_the_ironsm0unds_: it's still down [19:07]
m0unds_really? weird
oh, i'm getting as far as the gwy - my tunnel is still up, hahahaha
m0unds_ forgot he moved the tunnel over to the box he was pinging
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up_the_irons:) [19:09]
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brycec-.-
Apparently v6 is still down?
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up_the_ironsstarting to come back up, finally... [19:13]
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brycecOh so it is, there's BryceBot
(as soon as I give up and switch znc to use ipv4...)
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m0unds_hahaha
i just switched to my v4 session at home
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brycecbrb [19:13]
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up_the_ironsi think this any2 renumbering is gonna become a cluster F*... :( [19:16]
brycecokay... that should be everything back to normal...
"going to be" not "already is"?
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m0undswee [19:18]
brycecwb m0unds [19:18]
m0unds_thank you [19:18]
m0undsthank you [19:18]
brycechey m0unds_, not you [19:18]
m0undsf that guy [19:18]
brycecyou're welcome m0unds [19:18]
m0undsstealing my nick [19:18]
brycecIPv64lyf [19:18]
m0undsor just til it dies at least
ipv10 por vida
[19:18]
brycecIPVA
ftfy
[19:19]
m0undsahahahah [19:19]
brycecor maybe that's IPxA [19:19]
up_the_ironsi need to bounce it again [19:19]
m0undsNUUUUUU [19:19]
brycecAs long as it's quick [19:19]
m0unds_do your worst [19:19]
brycechopefully that won't leave things as :( as they are right now [19:20]
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up_the_ironsok, that bounce wasn't so bad [19:21]
brycecI didn't even notice anything [19:22]
up_the_ironsthat's the way i like it [19:23]
brycecWell, I mean, I did see m0unds quit... What a quitter. [19:24]
up_the_ironshahahaha
he just couldn't take it
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m0unds_haha
I'M RIGHT HERE
[19:26]
brycecCOWARD [19:26]
m0unds_DON'T TALK ABOUT ME LIKE I'M INVISIBLE
i was being considerate to people who don't suppress join/part msgs
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brycecWhat's that? I can't hear you. I think your address is 96 bits short. [19:27]
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m0undscan you hear me now, you bastard? [19:28]
brycecwb m0unds [19:28]
m0undsi'm sort of befuddled [19:31]
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m0undsthis main E/W artery of albuquerque is closed, but there are cars on it
nmdot = nmdol (dept of lies)
[19:31]
brycecThe I40 is closed?? Eesh, that sucks.
m0unds: This? http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico/albuquerque/i40-westbound-closed-near-edgewood/-/9153728/24318376/-/11qybap/-/index.html
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pjshah, you guys live in NM? I used to live in Edgewood [19:33]
brycecNah, I currently live Eastern Washington :P
And no offense, but I really don't want to live in NM
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pjsoh, no offense taken. I was moved there as a teenager and got the hell back to SoCal in my early 20's.. miserable place
s/moved there/forcefully &/
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BryceBot<pjs> oh, no offense taken. I was forcefully & as a teenager and got the hell back to SoCal in my early 20's.. miserable place [19:34]
pjsheh [19:35]
brycecFrom what I can tell, it's WB only, way out in Edgewood. So of course there's E/W traffic still moving in ABQ.
I have nothing against ABQ, but... NM has never been my cup of tea, any of the times I've traveled to or through it.
brycec really didn't care for Gallup
(I grep up in AZ, I know what a major trucking route the I-40 is.)
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m0undse/w within abq is confined to three routes
i-40, nm-423 (paseo del norte) and nm-528
423 being the most pertinent to my commute is closed
also, rural nm sucks
and it looks like they reopened 423. huzzah.
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brycechuzzah! [19:42]
m0undsgallup is awful
but i'd rather live in NM than southern california :P
[19:42]
brycec...would you rather Gallup, NM over socal? [19:43]
m0undsdepends on what i'd be doing in gallup [19:43]
brycecI don't remember much from that trip... But I remember feeling like a minority, and not in any sort of good or okay way. [19:43]
m0undsracist
RACIST
but yeah, that's about right - tons of navajo out that way
hopi too
[19:43]
brycecheh, I know it comes off racist [19:44]
m0undsone of the native guys i work with said he felt out of place out there [19:44]
pjsOh Gallup is hell.. [19:44]
brycecI'm okay with being in a minority... But sometimes, there's this... feeling, y'know? [19:44]
m0undswhich is kinda funny, really [19:44]
pjsand anyone who prefers NM over SoCal is absolutely insane in my eyes :) [19:44]
m0undshahaha, i like guns [19:45]
bryceclol m0unds [19:45]
m0undsand i like low cost of living
and green chile
[19:45]
pjsmmm, chile
the only thing about NM I miss.. the food/chile is amazing
[19:45]
brycecAnd the meth!
<.<
>.>
[19:45]
pjsheh
better/more meth in SoCal if you're into that sort of thing hehe
[19:45]
brycecI feel kinda bad for NM getting tied to Breaking Bad. On the other hand, publicity! [19:46]
m0undsclean air on the other side of the sandias from abq too
i'm so sick of bb stuff
i loved the show, i know lots of people who worked w/the crews and whatnot
[19:46]
brycecm0unds would rather the world forgot about NM again? [19:46]
pjsbrycec nm benefited in a big way from that show [19:46]
brycecsrsly [19:46]
m0undsit did in a lot of ways [19:46]
CaZeI like that hot air balloon festival. [19:46]
m0undsbut it also means that ignorant people think it's some wacky meth haven
yea, abq int'l hot air balloon fiesta
[19:47]
pjsfunny too, I could tell you the exact location of most of the outdoor scenes in the city on bb. Abq is a small city.. easy to learn [19:47]
m0undsit's 1/4 mi or so from where i work [19:47]
brycecYou mean it isn't? </mock surprise> [19:47]
CaZeReally good way to smuggle meth. [19:47]
m0undsin balloons [19:47]
pjsm0unds where do you work? [19:47]
m0undsthat's why the gondolas are so big
pueblo of sandia tribal gaming commission
[19:47]
pjsm0unds are you from abq? [19:47]
m0undsnope
boulder, co
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bryceclol boulder [19:48]
pjsm0unds ahh, you probably won't remember NMIA.. used to be a large ISP in Abq. They sold to SWCP later on after I moved back to CA
anyways, I used to work there
[19:48]
m0undsyeah, i don't recall hearing NMIA - SWCP is still around, sort of [19:49]
pjswell my mom recently left NM for Colorado Springs.. so I don't see myself visiting NM much anymore.. I have chile pods shipped to me,but it's not the same
anyways.. goodnight ladies & germs...
pjs &
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bryceclol https://www.swcp.com/dial-up-accounts/
later pjs
[19:51]
m0undslater
yeah, swcp is kinda at the mercy of centurylink
for dsl and stuff - CL only permits ADSL2 speeds, so they can barely be competitive w/CL or comcast
[19:52]
brycecBut... those prices are for dialup :( [19:53]
m0undsyeah, just bad all around [19:57]
hazardousany network issues?
a lot of my stuff kind of died a few times in the last hour or two
but ssh never dropped
[20:01]
brycechazardous: yes, earlier there were.
Transit issues mostly.
[20:01]
m0undspakkitbuses [20:02]
hazardousok good not just me then [20:02]
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m0undsthat was fun fun fun [21:38]
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up_the_ironsmy gawd
i love NTT
i asked for our IPv6 peer to be turned up finally and they set it up within like 5 minutes
[23:39]
milkinice [23:39]
up_the_ironswe're now finally multi-homed with IPv6
transits: HE and NTT
soon, Level 3
[23:40]
CaZeWhat do you mean by "turned up"? [23:45]
mike-bur1Ooo! [23:47]
up_the_ironsCaZe: configured the session; brought it up and is now in "Established" state; exchanging routing information. :) [23:47]
CaZeWait, we haven't been using NTT before now? [23:48]
up_the_ironsnot for IPv6 [23:48]
CaZeOh. [23:48]
up_the_ironsfor IPv4, yes [23:48]
CaZeCaZe thought we were [23:48]

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