mercutio: oph
   
 use openntpd
   phlux: m0unds: loving weechat here
   
 http://www.phluxbox.com/img/vohgi4.png
   m0unds: using tmux too?
   
 or is that your window mgr or whatever?
   phlux: m0unds: tmux
   
 m0unds: I actually have a session over there using tmux -2 -S/var/tmp/tmux-rightmain.sock, I then split that window (^-b-") and run two more tmux instances
   mike-burns: That looks like a Gentoo box.
   phlux: mike-burns: it is :P
   mike-burns: Bam!
   phlux: m0unds: by doing that, and using different bindings specified in an alternative config file (~/.tmux2.conf) I can have two completely separate terminals over there
   m0unds: ah, ok
   phlux: (even though they're in one container)
   
 mike-burns: You must've seen my eix-sync doing its thing over there
   m0unds: right
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   mike-burns: phlux: that was the only thing that did _not_ tip me off!
   
 The colors, and the icons in the top right, were the indicator to me.
   
 Gentoo users have better eyesight.
   phlux: lol
   mike-burns: The fontsize and leading, relatedly.
   phlux: mike-burns: Are you a Gentoo user as well?
   mike-burns: Nope. I can't see shit.
   
 Debian on laptop, FreeBSD on server.
   
 GNOME3 on the laptop, too.
   phlux: Aye
   
 I used to change WMs/DEs as often as I'd change socks
   
 but ever since I discovered i3, I've stuck with it aside from some testing for other people
   
 I've been playing this game that I found in portage last night called zsdx
   
 It's a Zelda clone, but damn is it good so far.
   mike-burns: Wow that looks really good.
   
 I remember when tuxracer was the state of the art.
   
 That or XEvil.
   m0unds: haha, tuxracer
   RandalSchwartz: I've raced Linus at a local indoor kart track
   
 his nick there: "Tux"
   
 so he's literally the "Tux Racer"
   
 he kicked my ass too
   m0unds: is he also a penguin?
   mike-burns: Ha.
   RandalSchwartz: my arms are too short to reach the steering wheel if I lean all the way back, so I have to lean forward and I don't have as solid of a grip
   phlux: lol
   Yamazaki-kun: I think I'm going to have to check out this weechat thing.
   
 and damn, 1.93.49.226 is persistent.
   ant: ssh brute force from china?
   
 yesterday some botnet (mostly from china) was bruteforcing some servers of mine so hard that the ssh server would accept connections anymore
   m0unds: haha
   
 change your ssh port
   
 Yamazaki-kun: it looks pretty nice. default theme is like default irssi too
   
 i installed it but haven't had a chance to mess with it yet
   ant: that's so inconvenient, so i only do that on machines i don't login often
   m0unds: more inconvenient having auth logs full of shit, imo
   
 ssh -p xxxx -l user hostname
   
 not so hard
   ant: i'm thinking about generating firewall rules from the list of networks apnic delegated to china
   jcv: and you can always set per host ports in your ~/.ssh/config
   
 that way you don't even have to remember the -p
   m0unds: yep
   ant: but i have to do that on every machine i want to use...
   m0unds: i just use the same high 64xxx range port on my hosts
   
 and like magic, the only login activity i see is mine
   ant: and tell all others who want to login there to...
   m0unds: i guess whatever works for you
   
 it's just been my first course of action for the last like 12-13 years, changing the port
   
 haha
   mike-burns: My .ssh/config is in my dotfiles that I carry around with me.
   Yamazaki-kun: At first I thought it was irssi and then I realized that you can't actually do that
   jcv: yeah, that is right after my .emacs and .bashrc for dot files I really need
   Yamazaki-kun: ssh from cn just tried root account
   
 not much force there
   mike-burns: Similarly for me: .vimrc and .zshrc.
   
 I wonder what the other 113 dot files I have are for ...
   m0unds: .launchcoderc
   mike-burns: I deleted that one; I never used it!
   
 I do have a .rcrc, for managing my .*rc files.
   m0unds: do you have a .rcrcrc file for managing your .rcrc files?
   mike-burns: At this point I probably should!
   
 https://github.com/thoughtbot/rcm - I use this (disclaimer: I wrote it).
   Yamazaki-kun: hm, so even though you have to have forwarding turned on to use jail networking, the TTL doesn't get decremented.
   
 my jails have the same TTL as the main OS instance
   
 I don't think I was expecting that.
   mike-burns: http://thoughtbot.github.io/rcm/ - better docs.
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   brycec: What do you have against pf rate-limit/fail2ban/etc? (m0unds, ant)
   
 Noting wrong with changing the port either.
   
 But fail2ban, or a pf rule goes a long way
   ant: i had rate limiting once, but then botnets began to use different ips for each try, so i disabled it
   
 also i don't really care about the auth.log entries so until yesterday it didn't bother me at all
   brycec: pass in on egress proto tcp to any port ssh flags S/SA keep state (max-src-conn 30, max-src-conn-rate 2/4, overload <ssh_brute_hosts> flush global) label "ssh_brute_match"
   
 bam.
   
 It's pretty strict, and I'm okay with that. (And no I don't bother expire entries from ssh_brute_hosts)
   Yamazaki-kun: I just see it as a cosmetic solution. I guess it does clean up the logs, though
   
 best way to stop Rumpelstiltkin attacks is to disable password-based authentication.
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   Yamazaki-kun: Oh, and a really nice regression for FreeBSD 10: make sure you devfs_load_rulesets="YES" in /etc/rc.conf if you like your jails' devfs to be suitably barren
   
 rc.d/jail should fail-secure if it can't find the devfs ruleset you're telling it to load.
   
 sadly, it doesn't.
   
 No point in jailing anything if it can still get to kmem.
   brycec: I see it as more than just cosmetic. Saves resources (cpu, memory, disk space) and bandwidth.
   Yamazaki-kun: I guess it depends how hard they're hitting you.
   
 okay, and I just checked auth.log. Still annoying even though it's the one Chinese dude.
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   brycec: That pf line is from a shell host I co-admin. We're a bit of a target ;)
   solj: i'm having trouble connecting to udp:1194 on my machine from outside arpnetworks. is there anyone here who might be able to help?
   brycec: You can always help yourself :p
   -: solj grins
   brycec: I can vouch that UDP/1194 works perfectly fine, I have a relatively large openvpn net
   -: solj sighs. let me try restarting it out of band then
   brycec: What about in-band access, no ssh?
   
 (As in: If you can't ssh, and you can't connect to openvpn, then yeah maybe you have bigger issues :p)
   solj: no, i can ssh to the public ip, but i have to edit hosts, etc
   brycec: And for the record, "help yourself" means tcpdump
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   brycec: But OpenVPN fails? Anything useful in the logs?
   solj: brycec: yeah, but now it's working again
   
 TLS Error: Unroutable control packet received from [AF_INET]REDACTED:1194 (si=3 op=P_ACK_V1)
   
 was what was happening
   
 brycec: the interesting part was that it was working for other nodes at arp
   m0unds: brycec: i prefer a log that isn't full of stuff, so i change the port and rate limit :)
   brycec: good m0unds
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   up_the_irons: "There have been no allocations made from this
   
 block as of yet, however, once we do begin issuing from this block, the
   
 minimum allocation size for this /10 will be a /28 and the maximum
   
 allocation size will be a /24.
   
 "
   
 wut?  ARIN is going to start issuing /28s??
   staticsafe: yep
   
 it has begun
   m0unds: http://thylaa.tumblr.com/post/69207958886/more
   brycec: lol
   m0unds: man, i'm all out of stuff to do
   
 http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/att-plan-to-shut-off-public-switched-telephone-network-moves-ahead-at-fcc/
   BryceBot: Ars Technica: "AT&T plan to shut off Public Switched Telephone Network moves ahead at FCC"
   mercutio: up_the_irons: scary :)
   
 i actually like it in a way
   
 apnic are giving people /22s
   
 for people without existing allocations
   
 or who haven't made their final allocation
   
 a lot of peopel can suffice on a /26
   
 that said i woudlnt' want to have smaller than a /24
   
 i bet there's people filtering on /24 with no default
   
 and so unless someone is going to advertise the greater /10 and provide backup routing it sounds dangerous
   
 apparently there are some 512k bgp prefix limits lying around
   
 currently global routing table is about 465k (k being 1024 with both)
   
 so even 10% more routes could run into issues on some platforms soon
   m0unds: yea, there's a lot of old stuff barely hanging on
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   m0unds: huh, weechat is pretty nice
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   phlux: yeah
   
 it is