mercutio: kwas there another outage
oh looks local ***: mjp has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)
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still see the one IP with a different route than another on the same box though, haha ***: jdeuce has joined #arpnetworks hazardous: http://i.imgur.com/39gygqq.png ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
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I've seen a few ARP persons' ipv6 IRC connections drop
but could just be FreeNode too ant: at least my nagios didn't notice anything ***: meingtsla has joined #arpnetworks
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ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer up_the_irons: brycec: ant : i don't believe there are / were any IPv6 issues
!history smokeping
BryceBot: history
BryceBot: help me out here!
ah
https://smokeping.cobryce.com/?target=ARP.Upstream6 ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) ant: up_the_irons: i don't think so either
at least not arp related ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer brycec: lol -: brycec finds smokeping.cobryce.com very easy to remember :p brycec: If smokeping.arpnetworks.com would be easier for you, I'll add it to nginx if you add the cname :p
up_the_irons: ^ ant: too bad my registrar dosn't allow me to register smokepi.ng ;) brycec: @tld ng BryceBot: The top-level domain 'ng' is used for: Nigeria. brycec: lol
also up_the_irons and others, just added for your convenience
@smokeping BryceBot: https://smokeping.cobryce.com/ brycec: up_the_irons: I agree, probably just a specific route or FreeNode node. toddf: I still assert brycebot should have some form of crib command groupings accessable via a privmsg of 'help' ;-) brycec: assertion failed :p
Someday I'll finish the documentation..
But it's way more fun to add new features than to document existing ones -: brycec eyes the APRS stuff toddf: so add a new feature that lets ordniary users privmsg new help text to brycebot and if you wish have brycebot ask you for approval of such text before making it live ;-)
like wiki + approval irc style brycec: Not the worst idea I've heard up_the_irons: @smokeping BryceBot: https://smokeping.cobryce.com/ up_the_irons: lol awesome brycec: toddf: https://github.com/brycied00d/BryceBot-Documentation -: brycec goes back to doing what he gets paid to do toddf: nice! hazardous: @tld xxx BryceBot: The top-level domain 'xxx' is used for: Adult entertainment. hazardous: the internet is for porn ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) mike-burns: It's now for cats. twobithacker: @tld cat BryceBot: The top-level domain 'cat' is used for: Catalan. toddf: @tld ms BryceBot: The top-level domain 'ms' is used for: Montserrat. up_the_irons: @tld travel BryceBot: The top-level domain 'travel' is used for: Travel related businesses. ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer mercutio: @tld info BryceBot: The top-level domain 'info' is used for: Unrestricted use. mercutio: heh
i think .info is when things starting falling down brycec: Taken straight from wikipedia *shrug* mercutio: @tld arpa BryceBot: The top-level domain 'arpa' is used for: Address and Routing Parameter Area. mercutio: pretty cool brycec: Nah, cool is IDN stuff :p Yamazaki-kun: if by "cool" you mean "wonderful for red-teaming" brycec: @tld عمان. BryceBot: The Top Level Domain 'عمان.' doesn't seem to exist (yet). brycec: @tld عمان BryceBot: The top-level domain 'عمان' is used for: Oman (.om). Yamazaki-kun: because let's face it, why else would you want https://www.pаypal.com/ ? mercutio: @tld @ BryceBot: The Top Level Domain '@' doesn't seem to exist (yet). brycec: @tld xn--zckzah BryceBot: The top-level domain 'xn--zckzah' is used for: tesuto (Japanese Test -- http://例え.テスト). up_the_irons: are there any non-ASCII tlds yet? brycec: Yes up_the_irons: sweet Yamazaki-kun: ۔مسر
is one up_the_irons: @tld cöm BryceBot: The Top Level Domain 'cöm' doesn't seem to exist (yet). ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) Yamazaki-kun: عر، مصر
hm. phlux: Ok, now I do have to move on from Gentoo
This shit is getting ridiculous mercutio: arch? brycec: Arch is a good step up from Gentoo, for those that love rolling releases :D mercutio: i've started using arch for some personal machines now
coming from ubuntu
there are definitely some bonuses
but some things are still kind of confusing brycec: I use Arch on all my desktops/laptops, definitely dig it. mercutio: not that ubuntu doesn't make things confusing phlux: I used to use Arch mercutio: like network setup
i using netctl now which makes more sense phlux: I went from Arch to Gentoo actually brycec: lol mercutio: why's that phlux?
i used gentoo /years/ back
i hate compiling everything phlux: I found that I was using Arch's ABS more than the binary packages mercutio: compiling a few things is ok phlux: sooooooooooo Gentoo made sense.
but lately I've been getting some weird wifi issues that I can't solve, and I'm wondering if it's the Gentoo kernel. mercutio: use your own kernel? phlux: Yeah, I might mercutio: 3.13 is out now brycec: vanilla-linux or whatever it was called mercutio: i was using my own kernel with ubuntu too phlux: I actually think the problem is with this shitty Belkin network extender mercutio: oh phlux: Every time the microwave turns on, the thing shits the bed mercutio: 2.4 ghz? phlux: That being said, every device in the house can reconnect to it afterwards aside from the Gentoo laptop
yeah mercutio: weird
yeah i dunno why microwaves and wifi both use 2.4ghz
does that mean that wifi will cook you? :) phlux: If I go in there and manually unplug the extender and reconnect it, I'll be fine mercutio: i have never liked belkin
but it should reconnect phlux: but again, that doesn't explain why I ONLY have to do that for this one particular device when everything else reconnects brycec: Maybe it doesn't realize it lost the connection? phlux: brycec: That's actually a good point
brycec: wpa_supplicant gives me REJECT notices.. brycec: So could be. AP has already rotated and the client is trying to use the old keys still. Try ifdown/ifup? phlux: brycec: Haven't tried ifdown/ifup, but I've killed wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd
but
That also doesn't explain why rebooting doesn't fix the problem
I've rebooted the laptop to try and reconnect and it still gets rejected
The only fix I've found is to pull the extender out of the wall and plug it back in. brycec: Ah then down/up probably won't help any. What's the adapter?
Yes. As does all forms of radiation... but the 2.2-2.5GHz is especially well suited to energizing H2O. 15:56:01 < mercutio> does that mean that wifi will cook you? :) phlux: RTL8191SEvB
In other words, RealTek something or another brycec: In other words, PCI nd not really unplug/plug it back in ;p phlux: brycec: Haha, indeed
Well, at least I just realized that it's definitely the network extender brycec: phlux: I assume you've tried cold rebooting? (completely power off) not just warm (ctrl-alt-delete) phlux: so I can stick with Gentoo for a while longer, I guess
brycec: Honeslty, I've just done 'sudo reboot' :P brycec: heh well probably worth a shot. Unless the wifi adapter is being completely reset, can't be 100% positive it's the extender. phlux: brycec: How would I go about fixing that issue if it /is/ the adapter's fault? brycec: <.<
>.>
New adapter? phlux: oh lawd
I hope not brycec: Same goes for s/adapter/extender/ phlux: I've never even popped this laptop open
yeah brycec: Oh it's a laptop? Better at least. When it comes to wifi, I think USB adapters are just simpler and easier these days. phlux: wait
Really? brycec: Yes phlux: USB wifi?
I know the speeds on that crap used to blow
but I haven't used it in a long time brycec: Correct. $10 wifi dongle is a lot easier to move around, replace, etc than a PCI card. phlux: Good point brycec: heh nowadays, perfectly serviceable. Depends mostly on environment, but I've gotten 130mbps on some. mercutio: laptops usually use the case as an antenna brycec: And USB + extension cable means you can put it where the signal is better :p mercutio: usb wifi thus has much smaller antenna brycec: (true) phlux: interesting mercutio: so i'd advocate using a different wireless chip
you can get 802.11ac ones for about $45 USD on ebay i think
intel
you can get cheaper intel non ac ones
http://www.ebay.com/itm/INTEL-7260HMW-mini-PCI-E-Wireless-AC-Card-867Mbps-802-11ac-BT4-0-/331116183876?pt=US_Internal_Network_Cards&hash=item4d18100144
things like that
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Intel-7260-7260HMW-802-11ac-WiFi-ac-Bluetooth-4-0-Half-Mini-PCI-E-Card-/251333154635?pt=US_Internal_Network_Cards&hash=item3a849f974b
or that brycec: heh yeah if you care about .ac bandwidth, stick to PCIe cards mercutio: serach and all, the first one had really high shipping cost for me, and second one has free shipping..
well ing eneral the intel wireless is better m0unds: i like arch a lot
i actually really like systemd too phlux: well brycec: Probably. If you just care about basic wifi, I say stick with the $10 adapters. mercutio: it's just if you are replacing, you may want to replace with something higher end phlux: I might give a USB dongle a shot mercutio: adapters suck m0unds: they make little mini usb dongles brycec: phlux could try adding the dongle, see if it does better. Then decide if he wants to replace the builtin wifi m0unds: that look like those bluetooth ones that you get w/wireless mouse/keyboard sets phlux: exactly m0unds: low profile mercutio: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-4965-4965AGN-wireless-WiFi-PCI-E-card-802-11N-AGN-/190422367955?pt=AU_Components&hash=item2c560ebed3 phlux: at the very least it'll help me rule out some things brycec: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105&cp_id=10501&cs_id=1050108&p_id=8072&seq=1&format=2
$7.51 ^ m0unds: yeah
exactly like that
haha mercutio: cheap wireless n dual band brycec: And so handy to have mercutio: like $6 USD
and you can put in your laptop rather than dongle
so use antennas
if there's dodgy wifi usb dongle isn't likely to be better? phlux: mercutio: yeah, but it's less effort to find out if the real issue is my hardware or the network extender m0unds: i bought a pair of linksys e3000s refurbed from amazon for like $25/ea and used them as cheap APs til i got my dual band ubiquiti stuff installed mercutio: it's actually really easy to change a mini pci-e card normally
unless you have one of the few censoring laptops
uhh hp phlux: Lenovo here m0unds: swapped the one in my wife's HP pretty easily
had a door on the bottom to do it
one screw mercutio: what iwrles is it atm?
m0unds: you have to be careful what card to stick in hp's m0unds: it got an OEM replacement for the one that died mercutio: it's not changing it that's hard, if your card isn't on the whitelist, then you need to bios mod to make it work m0unds: 1:1 mercutio: my hp laptop has intel already
and goes ok m0unds: hers was the same one you linked, it died, i bought another one from ebay that was pulled from another hp notebook mercutio: but i think they alternate between intel and atheros or something
m0unds: ahh ok m0unds: that worked fine til she got a macbook mercutio: the intel wireless is pretty solid m0unds: yea mercutio: i think i have something old like that too
there's in between with 6250 ertc m0unds: unlicensed bands are really badly overutilized in urban areas staticsafe: intel drivers are solid on linux too
iwlwifi <33333333333333333333 m0unds: MIMO stuff isn't helping matters mercutio: i get over 10 gigabit on network :/
i don't want to use wifi
wifi is fine for internet
it's when you want to drag files betwen machines it gets painful staticsafe: indeed m0unds: whaaaat...
duke nukem 3d "just updated with online deathmatch and co-op" staticsafe: hm i need of those wireless PCI cards but for desktops
one* mercutio: i used to like blood
it was like duke nukem 3d but better m0unds: eh, i liked dn3d and shadow warrior better than blood
played the hell out of all three
you can get the opengl enabled versions of shadow warrior and dn3d for $5.99 on steam right now mnathani: @tld local BryceBot: The Top Level Domain 'local' doesn't seem to exist (yet). mnathani: @tld bonjour BryceBot: The Top Level Domain 'bonjour' doesn't seem to exist (yet). mnathani: @tld msdns BryceBot: The Top Level Domain 'msdns' doesn't seem to exist (yet). Yamazaki-kun: Anyone done much with Dragonfly? Is HAMMER as awesome as it sounds?
(and does it work with << 4GB?) m0unds: nope, haven't tried it ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer up_the_irons: Yamazaki-kun: HAMMER? Yamazaki-kun: Dragonfly-specific filesystem
kinda ZFS/btrfs-y
only real problem with ZFS is low-memory performance sucks, and I use "low memory" as if I were an HPC admin.
on a 1G or 2G VM? fugghedaboutit up_the_irons: hahaha
yeah ZFS on low mem is terrible
so Dragonfly made their own filesystem, eh? that's very progressive of them. Yamazaki-kun: my home FS does that... had a 2x Xeon 5300 board off Ebay to upgrade so I could get more RAM and the thing didn't see any RAM at all
:(
32GB of PC2-5300F sticks waiting for a board that they like
because there's no such thing as overkill.
also I can run OmniOS and have file server + VM server in one.
... and DTrace requires a kernel rebuild?
wtf? jbergstroem: up_the_irons: HAMMER has been around for 5 years or so.. longer than btrfs if I recall correctly Yamazaki-kun: okay, it doesn't. Dang, I seriously need to sign up for the documentation team and make use of my red pen. ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) brycec: Introduced July 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAMMER BryceBot: HAMMER :: HAMMER is a high-availability 64-bit file system developed by Matthew Dillon for DragonFly BSD using B-trees. Its major features include infinite NFS-exportable snapshots, master-multislave operation, configurable history retention, fsckless-mount, and checksums to deal with data corruption. HAMMER also supports data block deduplication — identical data blocks will only be stored once on a file system. A port of HAMMER... milki: infinite! Yamazaki-kun: just discovered make package-recursive
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