[00:01] indeed [00:30] kwas there another outage [00:30] oh looks local [01:44] *** mjp has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [01:48] *** gizmoguy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [01:49] *** gizmoguy has joined #arpnetworks [02:04] *** JCxMLnblFl has joined #arpnetworks [02:04] *** JCxMLnblFl has left [02:51] *** Grumptober has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [02:54] *** Grumptober has joined #arpnetworks [03:53] *** mjp has joined #arpnetworks [06:38] yea, i can see a blip on my tunnel and vps' this morning at what looks like 0300 [06:39] still see the one IP with a different route than another on the same box though, haha [07:50] *** jdeuce has joined #arpnetworks [08:11] http://i.imgur.com/39gygqq.png [08:36] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [08:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [08:52] *** jcv has joined #arpnetworks [09:09] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [09:14] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [09:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [09:31] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [09:33] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [09:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [09:49] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [10:27] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [10:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [10:42] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [10:52] *** meingtsla has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:53] *** notion has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [10:53] Rolling ipv6 issue? [10:54] I've seen a few ARP persons' ipv6 IRC connections drop [10:54] but could just be FreeNode too [10:56] at least my nagios didn't notice anything [10:57] *** meingtsla has joined #arpnetworks [10:57] *** notion has joined #arpnetworks [11:03] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [11:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [11:38] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [12:25] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [12:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [12:29] *** plett has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [12:36] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [13:09] *** plett has joined #arpnetworks [13:09] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [13:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [13:14] brycec: ant : i don't believe there are / were any IPv6 issues [13:14] !history smokeping [13:14] BryceBot: history [13:14] BryceBot: help me out here! [13:15] ah [13:15] https://smokeping.cobryce.com/?target=ARP.Upstream6 [13:22] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [13:23] up_the_irons: i don't think so either [13:23] at least not arp related [13:32] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [13:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [13:35] lol [13:35] * brycec finds smokeping.cobryce.com very easy to remember :p [13:36] If smokeping.arpnetworks.com would be easier for you, I'll add it to nginx if you add the cname :p [13:36] up_the_irons: ^ [13:37] too bad my registrar dosn't allow me to register smokepi.ng ;) [13:37] @tld ng [13:37] The top-level domain 'ng' is used for: Nigeria. [13:37] lol [13:37] also up_the_irons and others, just added for your convenience [13:37] @smokeping [13:37] https://smokeping.cobryce.com/ [13:38] up_the_irons: I agree, probably just a specific route or FreeNode node. [13:38] I still assert brycebot should have some form of crib command groupings accessable via a privmsg of 'help' ;-) [13:38] assertion failed :p [13:38] Someday I'll finish the documentation.. [13:39] But it's way more fun to add new features than to document existing ones [13:39] * brycec eyes the APRS stuff [13:39] so add a new feature that lets ordniary users privmsg new help text to brycebot and if you wish have brycebot ask you for approval of such text before making it live ;-) [13:39] like wiki + approval irc style [13:40] Not the worst idea I've heard [13:49] @smokeping [13:49] https://smokeping.cobryce.com/ [13:49] lol awesome [13:50] toddf: https://github.com/brycied00d/BryceBot-Documentation [13:51] * brycec goes back to doing what he gets paid to do [13:59] nice! [14:02] @tld xxx [14:02] The top-level domain 'xxx' is used for: Adult entertainment. [14:02] the internet is for porn [14:16] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [14:31] It's now for cats. [14:31] @tld cat [14:31] The top-level domain 'cat' is used for: Catalan. [14:34] @tld ms [14:35] The top-level domain 'ms' is used for: Montserrat. [14:58] @tld travel [14:58] The top-level domain 'travel' is used for: Travel related businesses. [15:34] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [15:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [15:38] @tld info [15:38] The top-level domain 'info' is used for: Unrestricted use. [15:38] heh [15:38] i think .info is when things starting falling down [15:38] Taken straight from wikipedia *shrug* [15:40] @tld arpa [15:40] The top-level domain 'arpa' is used for: Address and Routing Parameter Area. [15:41] pretty cool [15:41] Nah, cool is IDN stuff :p [15:41] if by "cool" you mean "wonderful for red-teaming" [15:42] @tld عمان. [15:42] The Top Level Domain 'عمان.' doesn't seem to exist (yet). [15:42] @tld عمان [15:42] The top-level domain 'عمان' is used for: Oman (.om). [15:42] because let's face it, why else would you want https://www.pаypal.com/ ? [15:42] @tld @ [15:42] The Top Level Domain '@' doesn't seem to exist (yet). [15:43] @tld xn--zckzah [15:43] The top-level domain 'xn--zckzah' is used for: tesuto (Japanese Test -- http://例え.テスト). [15:45] are there any non-ASCII tlds yet? [15:45] Yes [15:45] sweet [15:46] ۔مسر [15:46] is one [15:46] @tld cöm [15:46] The Top Level Domain 'cöm' doesn't seem to exist (yet). [15:47] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [15:50] عر، مصر [15:50] hm. [15:50] Ok, now I do have to move on from Gentoo [15:50] This shit is getting ridiculous [15:52] arch? [15:53] Arch is a good step up from Gentoo, for those that love rolling releases :D [15:53] i've started using arch for some personal machines now [15:53] coming from ubuntu [15:53] there are definitely some bonuses [15:54] but some things are still kind of confusing [15:54] I use Arch on all my desktops/laptops, definitely dig it. [15:54] not that ubuntu doesn't make things confusing [15:54] I used to use Arch [15:54] like network setup [15:54] i using netctl now which makes more sense [15:54] I went from Arch to Gentoo actually [15:54] lol [15:54] why's that phlux? [15:54] i used gentoo /years/ back [15:54] i hate compiling everything [15:54] I found that I was using Arch's ABS more than the binary packages [15:54] compiling a few things is ok [15:54] sooooooooooo Gentoo made sense. [15:55] but lately I've been getting some weird wifi issues that I can't solve, and I'm wondering if it's the Gentoo kernel. [15:55] use your own kernel? [15:55] Yeah, I might [15:55] 3.13 is out now [15:55] vanilla-linux or whatever it was called [15:56] i was using my own kernel with ubuntu too [15:56] I actually think the problem is with this shitty Belkin network extender [15:56] oh [15:56] Every time the microwave turns on, the thing shits the bed [15:56] 2.4 ghz? [15:56] That being said, every device in the house can reconnect to it afterwards aside from the Gentoo laptop [15:56] yeah [15:56] weird [15:57] yeah i dunno why microwaves and wifi both use 2.4ghz [15:57] does that mean that wifi will cook you? :) [15:57] If I go in there and manually unplug the extender and reconnect it, I'll be fine [15:57] i have never liked belkin [15:57] but it should reconnect [15:57] but again, that doesn't explain why I ONLY have to do that for this one particular device when everything else reconnects [15:58] Maybe it doesn't realize it lost the connection? [15:58] brycec: That's actually a good point [15:58] brycec: wpa_supplicant gives me REJECT notices.. [15:59] So could be. AP has already rotated and the client is trying to use the old keys still. Try ifdown/ifup? [16:00] brycec: Haven't tried ifdown/ifup, but I've killed wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd [16:00] but [16:01] That also doesn't explain why rebooting doesn't fix the problem [16:01] I've rebooted the laptop to try and reconnect and it still gets rejected [16:01] The only fix I've found is to pull the extender out of the wall and plug it back in. [16:02] Ah then down/up probably won't help any. What's the adapter? [16:02] Yes. As does all forms of radiation... but the 2.2-2.5GHz is especially well suited to energizing H2O. 15:56:01 < mercutio> does that mean that wifi will cook you? :) [16:02] RTL8191SEvB [16:03] In other words, RealTek something or another [16:03] In other words, PCI nd not really unplug/plug it back in ;p [16:03] brycec: Haha, indeed [16:03] Well, at least I just realized that it's definitely the network extender [16:04] phlux: I assume you've tried cold rebooting? (completely power off) not just warm (ctrl-alt-delete) [16:04] so I can stick with Gentoo for a while longer, I guess [16:04] brycec: Honeslty, I've just done 'sudo reboot' :P [16:05] heh well probably worth a shot. Unless the wifi adapter is being completely reset, can't be 100% positive it's the extender. [16:08] brycec: How would I go about fixing that issue if it /is/ the adapter's fault? [16:08] <.< [16:08] >.> [16:08] New adapter? [16:08] oh lawd [16:08] I hope not [16:08] Same goes for s/adapter/extender/ [16:08] I've never even popped this laptop open [16:08] yeah [16:09] Oh it's a laptop? Better at least. When it comes to wifi, I think USB adapters are just simpler and easier these days. [16:09] wait [16:09] Really? [16:09] Yes [16:09] USB wifi? [16:10] I know the speeds on that crap used to blow [16:10] but I haven't used it in a long time [16:10] Correct. $10 wifi dongle is a lot easier to move around, replace, etc than a PCI card. [16:10] Good point [16:11] heh nowadays, perfectly serviceable. Depends mostly on environment, but I've gotten 130mbps on some. [16:11] laptops usually use the case as an antenna [16:11] And USB + extension cable means you can put it where the signal is better :p [16:11] usb wifi thus has much smaller antenna [16:11] (true) [16:11] interesting [16:11] so i'd advocate using a different wireless chip [16:11] you can get 802.11ac ones for about $45 USD on ebay i think [16:11] intel [16:12] you can get cheaper intel non ac ones [16:12] http://www.ebay.com/itm/INTEL-7260HMW-mini-PCI-E-Wireless-AC-Card-867Mbps-802-11ac-BT4-0-/331116183876?pt=US_Internal_Network_Cards&hash=item4d18100144 [16:12] things like that [16:13] http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Intel-7260-7260HMW-802-11ac-WiFi-ac-Bluetooth-4-0-Half-Mini-PCI-E-Card-/251333154635?pt=US_Internal_Network_Cards&hash=item3a849f974b [16:13] or that [16:13] heh yeah if you care about .ac bandwidth, stick to PCIe cards [16:13] serach and all, the first one had really high shipping cost for me, and second one has free shipping.. [16:13] well ing eneral the intel wireless is better [16:13] i like arch a lot [16:13] i actually really like systemd too [16:13] well [16:13] Probably. If you just care about basic wifi, I say stick with the $10 adapters. [16:13] it's just if you are replacing, you may want to replace with something higher end [16:14] I might give a USB dongle a shot [16:14] adapters suck [16:14] they make little mini usb dongles [16:14] phlux could try adding the dongle, see if it does better. Then decide if he wants to replace the builtin wifi [16:14] that look like those bluetooth ones that you get w/wireless mouse/keyboard sets [16:14] exactly [16:14] low profile [16:14] http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-4965-4965AGN-wireless-WiFi-PCI-E-card-802-11N-AGN-/190422367955?pt=AU_Components&hash=item2c560ebed3 [16:14] at the very least it'll help me rule out some things [16:14] http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105&cp_id=10501&cs_id=1050108&p_id=8072&seq=1&format=2 [16:14] $7.51 ^ [16:14] yeah [16:14] exactly like that [16:14] haha [16:14] cheap wireless n dual band [16:14] And so handy to have [16:14] like $6 USD [16:15] and you can put in your laptop rather than dongle [16:15] so use antennas [16:15] if there's dodgy wifi usb dongle isn't likely to be better? [16:16] mercutio: yeah, but it's less effort to find out if the real issue is my hardware or the network extender [16:16] i bought a pair of linksys e3000s refurbed from amazon for like $25/ea and used them as cheap APs til i got my dual band ubiquiti stuff installed [16:16] it's actually really easy to change a mini pci-e card normally [16:17] unless you have one of the few censoring laptops [16:17] uhh hp [16:17] Lenovo here [16:17] swapped the one in my wife's HP pretty easily [16:17] had a door on the bottom to do it [16:17] one screw [16:17] what iwrles is it atm? [16:18] m0unds: you have to be careful what card to stick in hp's [16:18] it got an OEM replacement for the one that died [16:18] it's not changing it that's hard, if your card isn't on the whitelist, then you \need to bios mod to make it work [16:18] 1:1 [16:18] my hp laptop has intel already [16:18] and goes ok [16:19] hers was the same one you linked, it died, i bought another one from ebay that was pulled from another hp notebook [16:19] but i think they alternate between intel and atheros or something [16:19] m0unds: ahh ok [16:19] that worked fine til she got a macbook [16:19] the intel wireless is pretty solid [16:19] yea [16:19] i think i have something old like that too [16:19] there's in between with 6250 ertc [16:19] unlicensed bands are really badly overutilized in urban areas [16:19] intel drivers are solid on linux too [16:19] iwlwifi <33333333333333333333 [16:19] MIMO stuff isn't helping matters [16:20] i get over 10 gigabit on network :/ [16:20] i don't want to use wifi [16:22] wifi is fine for internet [16:22] it's when you want to drag files betwen machines it gets painful [16:23] indeed [16:26] whaaaat... [16:26] duke nukem 3d "just updated with online deathmatch and co-op" [16:28] hm i need of those wireless PCI cards but for desktops [16:28] one* [16:33] i used to like blood [16:33] it was like duke nukem 3d but better [16:35] eh, i liked dn3d and shadow warrior better than blood [16:35] played the hell out of all three [16:36] you can get the opengl enabled versions of shadow warrior and dn3d for $5.99 on steam right now [17:01] @tld local [17:01] The Top Level Domain 'local' doesn't seem to exist (yet). [17:01] @tld bonjour [17:01] The Top Level Domain 'bonjour' doesn't seem to exist (yet). [17:01] @tld msdns [17:01] The Top Level Domain 'msdns' doesn't seem to exist (yet). [17:52] Anyone done much with Dragonfly? Is HAMMER as awesome as it sounds? [17:52] (and does it work with << 4GB?) [17:55] nope, haven't tried it [17:55] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [17:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [17:59] Yamazaki-kun: HAMMER? [18:00] Dragonfly-specific filesystem [18:00] kinda ZFS/btrfs-y [18:00] only real problem with ZFS is low-memory performance sucks, and I use "low memory" as if I were an HPC admin. [18:01] on a 1G or 2G VM? fugghedaboutit [18:07] hahaha [18:07] yeah ZFS on low mem is terrible [18:08] so Dragonfly made their own filesystem, eh? that's very progressive of them. [18:08] my home FS does that... had a 2x Xeon 5300 board off Ebay to upgrade so I could get more RAM and the thing didn't see any RAM at all [18:08] :( [18:08] 32GB of PC2-5300F sticks waiting for a board that they like [18:08] because there's no such thing as overkill. [18:09] also I can run OmniOS and have file server + VM server in one. [18:46] ... and DTrace requires a kernel rebuild? [18:46] wtf? [18:48] up_the_irons: HAMMER has been around for 5 years or so.. longer than btrfs if I recall correctly [18:49] okay, it doesn't. Dang, I seriously need to sign up for the documentation team and make use of my red pen. [18:49] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [18:56] Introduced July 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAMMER [18:56] HAMMER :: HAMMER is a high-availability 64-bit file system developed by Matthew Dillon for DragonFly BSD using B-trees. Its major features include infinite NFS-exportable snapshots, master-multislave operation, configurable history retention, fsckless-mount, and checksums to deal with data corruption. HAMMER also supports data block deduplication — identical data blocks will only be stored once on a file system. A port of HAMMER... [19:01] infinite! 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