***: werebutt has left toddf: anybody have multiple vps'es and notice network disconnects lately?
aka I have 4 vps'es .. 2 are able to talk to the v4 gateway, 2 are able to talk to the v6 gateway .. I'm going to guess something changed between 22:30 yesterday and 01:32 today based on my logs ***: phlux has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) jlgaddis: this probably isn't gonna paste right...
01:06:222014-01-15MenuhopDOWNCRITICAL - 174.136.107.10: rta nan, lost 100%
meh
0506-0533 utc (today), looks like our monitoring system couldn't hit that vps
oh wait, ignore that. that was on the 15th. -: jlgaddis blames the prescription drugs jpalmer: for what it's worth, one of mine seemed to be unavailable for about 45 minutes last night.
wait, wrong provider. my ARP vps's seem fine
I guess I'll have to blame it on my non-prescription drugs? lol brycec: lol jpalmer: ahh, it wa a digitalocean vps that was unavailable. m0unds: i've had some weird intermittent disconnects
never enough to trigger monitoring
err, trigger notification toddf: I think this was a maintenance that went wrong for my vlan only, if nobody else has issues
{0,2,3,5}.v.freedaemon.com .. all are reachable via one address family, prior to last night, all were reachable via both address families m0unds: huh. toddf: ;-)
and of course the ones that are only on v6 can't reach the ones that are only on v4
so my vlan is effectively two network segments ***: m0unds has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
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http://sprunge.us/jDea ***: tooth_ has joined #arpnetworks
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qbit_ is now known as qbit hazardous: i have to admit
sprunge sounds like something you'd see in a porno
:V brycec: lol, also not easy to remember (or so I find)
which is why the company's private clone of sprunge is simply {company}pastebin.domain.com
oh my bad, pastebin.domain.com m0unds: my buddy made an erlang webapp that passes stuff via zsh to the pastebin attached to the webapp
also handles url shortening and image fetch/shortening - so if you paste an image url into irc, it'll retrieve the image, store it temporarily on s3 and serve it via shortened url brycec: "webapp that passes stuff via zsh" that sounds pretty damn risky :/ staticsafe: ^ mike-burns: That totally sounds like an Erl Web app. m0unds: uses an API key and stuff -: m0unds isn't a programmer and doesn't know how that shit works staticsafe: heh m0unds: but i do know you can pipe output from commands (top -m io etc) and have it display as text up_the_irons: https://twitter.com/arpnetworks/status/427969490203066369 BryceBot: TWITTER: We will be performing an emergency reboot of our IPv6 router at 19:00 PST tonight (Tue Jan 28 01:00:52 +0000 2014, retweeted 1 times) brycec: "emergency" and scheduled rarely go together :p
@twitter -r 427969490203066369 BryceBot: brycec: Successfully retweeted arpnetworks (427970979109691392): We will be performing an emergency reboot of our IPv6 router at 19:00 PST tonight (Tue Jan 28 01:00:52 +0000 2014, retweeted 3 times) ***: m0unds has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) brycec: wow, earlier reboot than expected! :P up_the_irons: well, it's like in 2 hours...
pretty close IMO :) brycec: up_the_irons: just a reboot? or upgrade too? up_the_irons: just reboot
it needs a 2nd interface from our s7.lax router brycec: When does ARP get a redundant IPv6 router?
ah up_the_irons: yeah no immediately plans for 2nd IPv6 router brycec: Get a cheap, used DL380 or similar, a little CARP action and BAM up_the_irons: if it were that easy, it would have happened already
:)
actually, s7.lax can do full IPv6
in hardware
but the configuration dance and playing nice with existing OpenBSD IPv6 router, that is the hard part ***: Grumptober has joined #arpnetworks
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m0unds has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: brycec: s/380/360/
but carp complicates matters
often non redundant solutions can be more reliable with decent hardware brycec: heh
My experience with redundant routers extends to pfSense
Which was really pretty simple mercutio: you can get into lots of partial failure situations
like when there were router issues the other night, that was partial failure rather than full failure brycec: heh I did have a bit of split-master fun today. But prior to that... :p mercutio: you have to think about things like comlpexity of debugging
like if you have an ethernet card giving issues, in a redundant situation, which one is it
but yeah, if was to have a cheap secondary router, a dl360 is 1u, dl380 2u
and shouldn't need more than 1u
they both can do dual cpu etc, not that openbsd makes use of that brycec: I just pulled an HP DLxxx number out of my butt as an example of something that's cheap and readily available. mercutio: ahh right m0unds: notification gave me advanced warning to move my tunnel stuff over to my bigger vps
haha brycec: s/bigger/non-ARP/ BryceBot: <m0unds> notification gave me advanced warning to move my tunnel stuff over to my non-ARP vps brycec: I assume m0unds: no brycec: s/as/pre/ BryceBot: <brycec> I presume m0unds: bigger being bigger at arp mercutio: i think arp is using supermicro normally?
which have much more confusing model numbers :) m0unds: i planned on doing it around when it was gonna get rebooted mercutio: up_the_irons: does that mean ipv6 is going to be gigabit? up_the_irons: mercutio: if you're already on gigabit ports, ummm.. yeah i think it might actually (haven't really even thought about that) m0unds: hahaha mercutio: i was just curious more than antyhing
i still see ipv6 as being beta'ish brycec: "second class" mercutio: yeah it's a bad attitude to have in some ways, because the more people who think that way the more it becomes that way brycec: heh
The native IPv6 was a big reason I moved to ARP
A little sad that it doesn't get the same love as v4 mercutio: it was secondary reason for me
i was tunneling with he.net prior m0unds: until more eyeball networks support ipv6, i don't really care one way or another mercutio: but i got over ipv6 :)
it doesnt' really help having ipv6 support when the situations it'd be useful don't have ipv6 m0unds: yea
and in a lot of cases, it can break stuff for client devices mercutio: like with ipv6 and static ip, you'd be able to remote desktop into someone's computer if they oppened it up
but it's easier to talk smoeone through doing a port forward then setting up ipv6 even if their provider supports it m0unds: yeah
can't imagine having to tell someone an ipv6 addr over the phone or something mercutio: haha
yeah that's one of the current issues with ipv6
should every user host their own dns? m0unds: then the differing implementations at the cpe sucks too mercutio: as soon as you have all these ip addresses, and want to do dns, things get tricky
on legacy ipv4 connections there's susually just a single or a few ip's to give a name to
and try running a mail server without reverse dns... m0unds: yeah mercutio: and i don't think most isp's have user-modifiable dns
actually arp did hah
i dunno about ipv6, but with ipv4 you can easily change your reverse lookup
but try doing that on a normal net connection... m0unds: yea, you can w/arp, but i've found i don't always get an rdns when i query an ipv6 addr mercutio: fortunately, with most isp's you can email a request for reverse dns m0unds: as long as you have a static ip alloc, yeah mercutio: does arp let you set reverse dns? m0unds: i have rdns on mine
yeah mercutio: err for ipv6 staticsafe: yes m0unds: yes
2607:f2f8:af18:2::1
1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.0.8.1.f.a.8.f.2.f.7.0.6.2.ip6.arpa domain name pointer lax-gwy.m0unds.net. mercutio: heh cool up_the_irons: mercutio: i'm trying not to treat IPv6 as "beta-ish"; first class IPv6 has been a goal of mine since the beginning; but traffic levels used to be so low it was hard to prioritize
brb mercutio: up_the_irons: well that's good to hear, now get evyrone else onboard :)
oh so ipv6 is down now?
not that i was using it normally, was just curious if facebook has reverse dns
oh right it's just on 19:00 PST isn't it :) ***: notion has joined #arpnetworks
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twobithacker has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) m0unds: yup up_the_irons: mercutio: yup 19:00 :)
it's back up now ***: notion_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) up_the_irons: sucking down the bgp routes mercutio: routing not getting anywhere
but gateway responds
ahh ok
openbgpd is slow at loading route tables i've noitced
at least ipv6 is small ***: NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
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NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: hmm routing still getting nowhere ***: CaZe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
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CaZe` is now known as CaZe mercutio: oh facebook works
ahh kame.net works now too
wow facebook has reverse dns staticsafe: BGP is slow eh mercutio: on all of their hops! even their routers
so do ntt
www.kame.net don't for the web server itself
google only have web server with reverse dns, none of their routers ***: twobithacker has joined #arpnetworks staticsafe: |- scruffy.entropynet.net[46X] -------------- | Users: 7
server didn't even netsplit :) up_the_irons: didn't seem like i lost connection either ***: brycec has joined #arpnetworks brycec: <.<
that seemed short/quick m0unds: yep ***: brycec has quit IRC (Quit: Cheerio, mates.)
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frankbutt has left toddf: I've had more outages with my tunnelbroker.net tunnel than with arpnetworks mercutio: he.net? brycec: One in the same