[03:22] *** werebutt has joined #arpnetworks [03:22] *** werebutt has left [10:38] anybody have multiple vps'es and notice network disconnects lately? [10:42] aka I have 4 vps'es .. 2 are able to talk to the v4 gateway, 2 are able to talk to the v6 gateway .. I'm going to guess something changed between 22:30 yesterday and 01:32 today based on my logs [11:07] *** phlux has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:11] this probably isn't gonna paste right... [11:12] 01:06:222014-01-15MenuhopDOWNCRITICAL - 174.136.107.10: rta nan, lost 100% [11:12] meh [11:12] 0506-0533 utc (today), looks like our monitoring system couldn't hit that vps [11:13] oh wait, ignore that. that was on the 15th. [11:14] * jlgaddis blames the prescription drugs [11:39] for what it's worth, one of mine seemed to be unavailable for about 45 minutes last night. [11:40] wait, wrong provider. my ARP vps's seem fine [11:41] I guess I'll have to blame it on my non-prescription drugs? lol [11:41] lol [11:41] ahh, it wa a digitalocean vps that was unavailable. [12:04] i've had some weird intermittent disconnects [12:05] never enough to trigger monitoring [12:05] err, trigger notification [12:09] I think this was a maintenance that went wrong for my vlan only, if nobody else has issues [12:10] {0,2,3,5}.v.freedaemon.com .. all are reachable via one address family, prior to last night, all were reachable via both address families [12:12] huh. [12:12] ;-) [12:13] and of course the ones that are only on v6 can't reach the ones that are only on v4 [12:13] so my vlan is effectively two network segments [12:20] *** m0unds has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [12:39] *** m0unds has joined #arpnetworks [12:39] there's one of the blips i mentioned, haha [12:41] 12:19:46 ::: m0unds [~m0unds@2607:f2f8:af18:2::e] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] [12:45] yep [13:53] *** rgouveia has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [13:55] *** rgouveia has joined #arpnetworks [15:19] *** phlux has joined #arpnetworks [15:31] I love sprunge! [15:31] http://sprunge.us/jDea [15:49] *** tooth_ has joined #arpnetworks [15:49] *** qbit_ has joined #arpnetworks [15:49] *** tooth has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [15:49] *** qbit has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [15:56] *** qbit_ is now known as qbit [16:16] i have to admit [16:16] sprunge sounds like something you'd see in a porno [16:16] :V [16:17] lol, also not easy to remember (or so I find) [16:18] which is why the company's private clone of sprunge is simply {company}pastebin.domain.com [16:18] oh my bad, pastebin.domain.com [16:26] my buddy made an erlang webapp that passes stuff via zsh to the pastebin attached to the webapp [16:27] also handles url shortening and image fetch/shortening - so if you paste an image url into irc, it'll retrieve the image, store it temporarily on s3 and serve it via shortened url [16:30] "webapp that passes stuff via zsh" that sounds pretty damn risky :/ [16:31] ^ [16:44] That totally sounds like an Erl Web app. [16:51] uses an API key and stuff [16:52] * m0unds isn't a programmer and doesn't know how that shit works [16:52] heh [16:52] but i do know you can pipe output from commands (top -m io etc) and have it display as text [17:02] https://twitter.com/arpnetworks/status/427969490203066369 [17:02] TWITTER: We will be performing an emergency reboot of our IPv6 router at 19:00 PST tonight (Tue Jan 28 01:00:52 +0000 2014, retweeted 1 times) [17:07] "emergency" and scheduled rarely go together :p [17:07] @twitter -r 427969490203066369 [17:07] brycec: Successfully retweeted arpnetworks (427970979109691392): We will be performing an emergency reboot of our IPv6 router at 19:00 PST tonight (Tue Jan 28 01:00:52 +0000 2014, retweeted 3 times) [17:08] *** m0unds has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [17:08] wow, earlier reboot than expected! :P [17:11] well, it's like in 2 hours... [17:11] pretty close IMO :) [17:19] up_the_irons: just a reboot? or upgrade too? [17:19] just reboot [17:20] it needs a 2nd interface from our s7.lax router [17:20] When does ARP get a redundant IPv6 router? [17:20] ah [17:20] yeah no immediately plans for 2nd IPv6 router [17:20] Get a cheap, used DL380 or similar, a little CARP action and BAM [17:21] if it were that easy, it would have happened already [17:21] :) [17:22] actually, s7.lax can do full IPv6 [17:22] in hardware [17:22] but the configuration dance and playing nice with existing OpenBSD IPv6 router, that is the hard part [17:24] *** Grumptober has joined #arpnetworks [18:18] *** m0unds_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [18:20] *** m0unds has joined #arpnetworks [18:36] brycec: s/380/360/ [18:37] but carp complicates matters [18:37] often non redundant solutions can be more reliable with decent hardware [18:38] heh [18:38] My experience with redundant routers extends to pfSense [18:38] Which was really pretty simple [18:38] you can get into lots of partial failure situations [18:38] like when there were router issues the other night, that was partial failure rather than full failure [18:39] heh I did have a bit of split-master fun today. But prior to that... :p [18:39] you have to think about things like comlpexity of debugging [18:39] like if you have an ethernet card giving issues, in a redundant situation, which one is it [18:40] but yeah, if was to have a cheap secondary router, a dl360 is 1u, dl380 2u [18:40] and shouldn't need more than 1u [18:40] they both can do dual cpu etc, not that openbsd makes use of that [18:44] I just pulled an HP DLxxx number out of my butt as an example of something that's cheap and readily available. [18:45] ahh right [18:45] notification gave me advanced warning to move my tunnel stuff over to my bigger vps [18:45] haha [18:45] s/bigger/non-ARP/ [18:45] notification gave me advanced warning to move my tunnel stuff over to my non-ARP vps [18:45] I assume [18:45] no [18:45] s/as/pre/ [18:45] I presume [18:45] bigger being bigger at arp [18:45] i think arp is using supermicro normally? [18:45] which have much more confusing model numbers :) [18:46] i planned on doing it around when it was gonna get rebooted [18:51] up_the_irons: does that mean ipv6 is going to be gigabit? [18:52] mercutio: if you're already on gigabit ports, ummm.. yeah i think it might actually (haven't really even thought about that) [18:52] hahaha [18:53] i was just curious more than antyhing [18:53] i still see ipv6 as being beta'ish [18:53] "second class" [18:53] yeah it's a bad attitude to have in some ways, because the more people who think that way the more it becomes that way [18:54] heh [18:54] The native IPv6 was a big reason I moved to ARP [18:54] A little sad that it doesn't get the same love as v4 [18:54] it was secondary reason for me [18:55] i was tunneling with he.net prior [18:55] until more eyeball networks support ipv6, i don't really care one way or another [18:55] but i got over ipv6 :) [18:55] it doesnt' really help having ipv6 support when the situations it'd be useful don't have ipv6 [18:55] yea [18:55] and in a lot of cases, it can break stuff for client devices [18:56] like with ipv6 and static ip, you'd be able to remote desktop into someone's computer if they oppened it up [18:56] but it's easier to talk smoeone through doing a port forward then setting up ipv6 even if their provider supports it [18:56] yeah [18:56] can't imagine having to tell someone an ipv6 addr over the phone or something [18:56] haha [18:57] yeah that's one of the current issues with ipv6 [18:57] should every user host their own dns? [18:57] then the differing implementations at the cpe sucks too [18:57] as soon as you have all these ip addresses, and want to do dns, things get tricky [18:57] on legacy ipv4 connections there's susually just a single or a few ip's to give a name to [18:58] and try running a mail server without reverse dns... [18:58] yeah [18:58] and i don't think most isp's have user-modifiable dns [18:58] actually arp did hah [18:58] i dunno about ipv6, but with ipv4 you can easily change your reverse lookup [18:59] but try doing that on a normal net connection... [18:59] yea, you can w/arp, but i've found i don't always get an rdns when i query an ipv6 addr [18:59] fortunately, with most isp's you can email a request for reverse dns [18:59] as long as you have a static ip alloc, yeah [18:59] does arp let you set reverse dns? [18:59] i have rdns on mine [18:59] yeah [19:00] err for ipv6 [19:00] yes [19:00] yes [19:00] 2607:f2f8:af18:2::1 [19:00] 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.0.8.1.f.a.8.f.2.f.7.0.6.2.ip6.arpa domain name pointer lax-gwy.m0unds.net. [19:00] heh cool [19:00] mercutio: i'm trying not to treat IPv6 as "beta-ish"; first class IPv6 has been a goal of mine since the beginning; but traffic levels used to be so low it was hard to prioritize [19:01] brb [19:01] up_the_irons: well that's good to hear, now get evyrone else onboard :) [19:02] oh so ipv6 is down now? [19:02] not that i was using it normally, was just curious if facebook has reverse dns [19:03] oh right it's just on 19:00 PST isn't it :) [19:03] *** notion has joined #arpnetworks [19:04] *** BryceBot has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [19:04] *** twobithacker has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:04] yup [19:04] mercutio: yup 19:00 :) [19:04] it's back up now [19:04] *** notion_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:04] sucking down the bgp routes [19:04] routing not getting anywhere [19:04] but gateway responds [19:04] ahh ok [19:04] openbgpd is slow at loading route tables i've noitced [19:05] at least ipv6 is small [19:05] *** NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [19:05] *** brycec has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [19:05] heh just rerouted IRC services over the v4 VPN link temp [19:05] *** BryceBot has joined #arpnetworks [19:05] *** NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks [19:05] hmm routing still getting nowhere [19:05] *** CaZe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [19:06] *** CaZe` has joined #arpnetworks [19:06] *** CaZe` is now known as CaZe [19:06] oh facebook works [19:06] ahh kame.net works now too [19:06] wow facebook has reverse dns [19:06] BGP is slow eh [19:06] on all of their hops! even their routers [19:07] so do ntt [19:07] www.kame.net don't for the web server itself [19:07] google only have web server with reverse dns, none of their routers [19:08] *** twobithacker has joined #arpnetworks [19:09] |- scruffy.entropynet.net[46X] -------------- | Users: 7 [19:09] server didn't even netsplit :) [19:09] didn't seem like i lost connection either [19:10] *** brycec has joined #arpnetworks [19:10] <.< [19:10] that seemed short/quick [19:15] yep [19:30] *** brycec has quit IRC (Quit: Cheerio, mates.) 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[20:27] *** brycec has joined #arpnetworks [20:45] that's what she said [21:19] *** mnathani has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2) [21:28] *** mnathani has joined #arpnetworks [22:00] lol [22:41] *** frankbutt has joined #arpnetworks [22:41] *** frankbutt has left [22:43] I've had more outages with my tunnelbroker.net tunnel than with arpnetworks [22:48] he.net? [23:24] One in the same