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[10:38] <toddf> anybody have multiple vps'es and notice network disconnects lately?
[10:42] <toddf> aka I have 4 vps'es .. 2 are able to talk to the v4 gateway, 2 are able to talk to the v6 gateway .. I'm going to guess something changed between 22:30 yesterday and 01:32 today based on my logs
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[11:11] <jlgaddis> this probably isn't gonna paste right...
[11:12] <jlgaddis> 01:06:222014-01-15MenuhopDOWNCRITICAL - 174.136.107.10: rta nan, lost 100%
[11:12] <jlgaddis> meh
[11:12] <jlgaddis> 0506-0533 utc (today), looks like our monitoring system couldn't hit that vps
[11:13] <jlgaddis> oh wait, ignore that. that was on the 15th.
[11:14] * jlgaddis blames the prescription drugs
[11:39] <jpalmer> for what it's worth,  one of mine seemed to be unavailable for about 45 minutes last night.
[11:40] <jpalmer> wait,  wrong provider.  my ARP vps's seem fine
[11:41] <jpalmer> I guess I'll have to blame it on my non-prescription drugs?  lol
[11:41] <brycec> lol
[11:41] <jpalmer> ahh, it wa a digitalocean vps that was unavailable.
[12:04] <m0unds> i've had some weird intermittent disconnects
[12:05] <m0unds> never enough to trigger monitoring
[12:05] <m0unds> err, trigger notification
[12:09] <toddf> I think this was a maintenance that went wrong for my vlan only, if nobody else has issues
[12:10] <toddf> {0,2,3,5}.v.freedaemon.com .. all are reachable via one address family, prior to last night, all were reachable via both address families
[12:12] <m0unds> huh.
[12:12] <toddf> ;-)
[12:13] <toddf> and of course the ones that are only on v6 can't reach the ones that are only on v4
[12:13] <toddf> so my vlan is effectively two network segments
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[12:39] <m0unds> there's one of the blips i mentioned, haha
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[12:45] <m0unds> yep
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[15:31] <toddf> I love sprunge!
[15:31] <toddf> http://sprunge.us/jDea
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[16:16] <hazardous> i have to admit
[16:16] <hazardous> sprunge sounds like something you'd see in a porno
[16:16] <hazardous> :V
[16:17] <brycec> lol, also not easy to remember (or so I find)
[16:18] <brycec> which is why the company's private clone of sprunge is simply {company}pastebin.domain.com
[16:18] <brycec> oh my bad, pastebin.domain.com
[16:26] <m0unds> my buddy made an erlang webapp that passes stuff via zsh to the pastebin attached to the webapp
[16:27] <m0unds> also handles url shortening and image fetch/shortening - so if you paste an image url into irc, it'll retrieve the image, store it temporarily on s3 and serve it via shortened url
[16:30] <brycec> "webapp that passes stuff via zsh" that sounds pretty damn risky :/
[16:31] <staticsafe> ^
[16:44] <mike-burns> That totally sounds like an Erl Web app.
[16:51] <m0unds> uses an API key and stuff
[16:52] * m0unds isn't a programmer and doesn't know how that shit works
[16:52] <staticsafe> heh
[16:52] <m0unds> but i do know you can pipe output from commands (top -m io etc) and have it display as text
[17:02] <up_the_irons> https://twitter.com/arpnetworks/status/427969490203066369
[17:02] <BryceBot> TWITTER: We will be performing an emergency reboot of our IPv6 router at 19:00 PST tonight (Tue Jan 28 01:00:52 +0000 2014, retweeted 1 times)
[17:07] <brycec> "emergency" and scheduled rarely go together :p
[17:07] <brycec> @twitter -r 427969490203066369
[17:07] <BryceBot> brycec: Successfully retweeted arpnetworks (427970979109691392): We will be performing an emergency reboot of our IPv6 router at 19:00 PST tonight (Tue Jan 28 01:00:52 +0000 2014, retweeted 3 times)
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[17:08] <brycec> wow, earlier reboot than expected! :P
[17:11] <up_the_irons> well, it's like in 2 hours...
[17:11] <up_the_irons> pretty close IMO :)
[17:19] <brycec> up_the_irons: just a reboot? or upgrade too?
[17:19] <up_the_irons> just reboot
[17:20] <up_the_irons> it needs a 2nd interface from our s7.lax router
[17:20] <brycec> When does ARP get a redundant IPv6 router?
[17:20] <brycec> ah
[17:20] <up_the_irons> yeah no immediately plans for 2nd IPv6 router
[17:20] <brycec> Get a cheap, used DL380 or similar, a little CARP action and BAM
[17:21] <up_the_irons> if it were that easy, it would have happened already
[17:21] <up_the_irons> :)
[17:22] <up_the_irons> actually, s7.lax can do full IPv6
[17:22] <up_the_irons> in hardware
[17:22] <up_the_irons> but the configuration dance and playing nice with existing OpenBSD IPv6 router, that is the hard part
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[18:36] <mercutio> brycec: s/380/360/
[18:37] <mercutio> but carp complicates matters
[18:37] <mercutio> often non redundant solutions can be more reliable with decent hardware
[18:38] <brycec> heh
[18:38] <brycec> My experience with redundant routers extends to pfSense
[18:38] <brycec> Which was really pretty simple
[18:38] <mercutio> you can get into lots of partial failure situations
[18:38] <mercutio> like when there were router issues the other night, that was partial failure rather than full failure
[18:39] <brycec> heh I did have a bit of split-master fun today. But prior to that... :p
[18:39] <mercutio> you have to think about things like comlpexity of debugging
[18:39] <mercutio> like if you have an  ethernet card giving issues, in a redundant situation, which one is it
[18:40] <mercutio> but yeah, if was to have a cheap secondary router, a dl360 is 1u, dl380 2u
[18:40] <mercutio> and shouldn't need more than 1u
[18:40] <mercutio> they both can do dual cpu etc, not that openbsd makes use of that
[18:44] <brycec> I just pulled an HP DLxxx number out of my butt as an example of something that's cheap and readily available.
[18:45] <mercutio> ahh right
[18:45] <m0unds> notification gave me advanced warning to move my tunnel stuff over to my bigger vps
[18:45] <m0unds> haha
[18:45] <brycec> s/bigger/non-ARP/
[18:45] <BryceBot> <m0unds> notification gave me advanced warning to move my tunnel stuff over to my non-ARP vps
[18:45] <brycec> I assume
[18:45] <m0unds> no
[18:45] <brycec> s/as/pre/
[18:45] <BryceBot> <brycec> I presume
[18:45] <m0unds> bigger being bigger at arp
[18:45] <mercutio> i think arp is using supermicro normally?
[18:45] <mercutio> which have much more confusing model numbers :)
[18:46] <m0unds> i planned on doing it around when it was gonna get rebooted
[18:51] <mercutio> up_the_irons: does that mean ipv6 is going to be gigabit?
[18:52] <up_the_irons> mercutio: if you're already on gigabit ports,  ummm.. yeah i think it might actually (haven't really even thought about that)
[18:52] <m0unds>  hahaha
[18:53] <mercutio> i was just curious more than antyhing
[18:53] <mercutio> i still see ipv6 as being beta'ish
[18:53] <brycec> "second class"
[18:53] <mercutio> yeah it's a bad attitude to have in some ways, because the more people who think that way the more it becomes that way
[18:54] <brycec> heh
[18:54] <brycec> The native IPv6 was a big reason I moved to ARP
[18:54] <brycec> A little sad that it doesn't get the same love as v4
[18:54] <mercutio> it was secondary reason for me
[18:55] <mercutio> i was tunneling with he.net prior
[18:55] <m0unds> until more eyeball networks support ipv6, i don't really care one way or another
[18:55] <mercutio> but i got over ipv6 :)
[18:55] <mercutio> it doesnt' really help having ipv6 support when the situations it'd be useful don't have ipv6
[18:55] <m0unds> yea
[18:55] <m0unds> and in a lot of cases, it can break stuff for client devices
[18:56] <mercutio> like with ipv6 and static ip, you'd be able to remote desktop into someone's computer if they oppened it up
[18:56] <mercutio> but it's easier to talk smoeone through doing a port forward then setting up ipv6  even if their provider supports it
[18:56] <m0unds> yeah
[18:56] <m0unds> can't imagine having to tell someone an ipv6 addr over the phone or something
[18:56] <mercutio> haha
[18:57] <mercutio> yeah that's one of the current issues with ipv6
[18:57] <mercutio> should every user host their own dns?
[18:57] <m0unds> then the differing implementations at the cpe sucks too
[18:57] <mercutio> as soon as you have all these ip addresses, and want to do dns, things get tricky
[18:57] <mercutio> on legacy ipv4 connections there's susually just a single or a few ip's to give a name to
[18:58] <mercutio> and try running a mail server without reverse dns...
[18:58] <m0unds> yeah
[18:58] <mercutio> and i don't think most isp's have user-modifiable dns
[18:58] <mercutio> actually  arp did hah
[18:58] <mercutio> i dunno about ipv6, but with ipv4 you can easily change your reverse lookup
[18:59] <mercutio> but try doing that on a normal net connection...
[18:59] <m0unds> yea, you can w/arp, but i've found i don't always get an rdns when i query an ipv6 addr
[18:59] <mercutio> fortunately, with most isp's you can email a request for reverse dns
[18:59] <m0unds> as long as you have a static ip alloc, yeah
[18:59] <mercutio> does arp let you set reverse dns?
[18:59] <m0unds> i have rdns on mine
[18:59] <m0unds> yeah
[19:00] <mercutio> err for ipv6
[19:00] <staticsafe> yes
[19:00] <m0unds> yes
[19:00] <m0unds> 2607:f2f8:af18:2::1
[19:00] <m0unds> 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.0.8.1.f.a.8.f.2.f.7.0.6.2.ip6.arpa domain name pointer lax-gwy.m0unds.net.
[19:00] <mercutio> heh cool
[19:00] <up_the_irons> mercutio: i'm trying not to treat IPv6 as "beta-ish"; first class IPv6 has been a goal of mine since the beginning; but traffic levels used to be so low it was hard to prioritize
[19:01] <up_the_irons> brb
[19:01] <mercutio> up_the_irons: well that's good to hear, now get evyrone else onboard :)
[19:02] <mercutio> oh so ipv6 is down now?
[19:02] <mercutio> not that i was using it normally, was just curious if facebook has reverse dns
[19:03] <mercutio> oh right it's just on 19:00 PST isn't it :)
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[19:04] <m0unds> yup
[19:04] <up_the_irons> mercutio: yup 19:00 :)
[19:04] <up_the_irons> it's back up now
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[19:04] <up_the_irons> sucking down the bgp routes
[19:04] <mercutio> routing not getting anywhere
[19:04] <mercutio> but gateway responds
[19:04] <mercutio> ahh ok
[19:04] <mercutio> openbgpd is slow at loading route tables i've noitced
[19:05] <mercutio> at least ipv6 is small
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[19:05] <staticsafe> heh just rerouted IRC services over the v4 VPN link temp
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[19:05] <mercutio> hmm routing still getting nowhere
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[19:06] <mercutio> oh facebook works
[19:06] <mercutio> ahh kame.net works now too
[19:06] <mercutio> wow facebook has reverse dns
[19:06] <staticsafe> BGP is slow eh
[19:06] <mercutio> on all of their hops!  even their routers
[19:07] <mercutio> so do ntt
[19:07] <mercutio> www.kame.net don't for the web server itself
[19:07] <mercutio> google only have web server with reverse dns, none of their routers
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[19:09] <staticsafe> |- scruffy.entropynet.net[46X] -------------- | Users:     7
[19:09] <staticsafe> server didn't even netsplit :)
[19:09] <up_the_irons> didn't seem like i lost connection either
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[19:10] <brycec> <.<
[19:10] <brycec> that seemed short/quick
[19:15] <m0unds> yep
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[20:45] <jlgaddis> that's what she said
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[22:00] <up_the_irons> lol
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[22:43] <toddf> I've had more outages with my tunnelbroker.net tunnel than with arpnetworks
[22:48] <mercutio> he.net?
[23:24] <brycec> One in the same