#arpnetworks 2014-01-24,Fri

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m0unds_hahahah
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mafmafwell, my irc client seems to have connected from arp
but can't ssh 		[06:40]
pcn_DNS is working again from my server. Yay [06:41]
rgouveiamy machine is up [06:41]
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rgouveiahazardous: check your machine [06:41]
hazardousback up [06:41]
pcn_Try again [06:41]
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up_the_ironsthat was annoying [06:42]
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up_the_ironss1.lax went over its 128K route limit and CEF died [06:42]
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up_the_ironsshutdown a few peers using out-of-band then re-enabled CEF [06:42]
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hazardous[channel suddenly doubles in size] [06:44]
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up_the_ironslol
that's one way to get people to join... ;) 		[06:44]
hazardoushaha [06:45]
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hazardousup_the_irons do you actually sleep or is this normal response time at 6 am :p [06:45]
mafmafseems i'm up
wooooo 		[06:46]
up_the_ironshazardous: it's normal if something major breaks (like a core router), cuz pagerduty is set to scream like hell (and it does :) [06:46]
hazardousfun
you know, smileys in parentheses always weirds me out
like (:) is incomplete, (:)) is weird 		[06:47]
up_the_ironsyeah me too [06:48]
mafmafI hear ya (no really, i do :) ) [06:55]
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mafmafalso, my vps is back online. thanks to the arp folks for their work
hope it stays stable
cheers! 		[06:55]
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mike-burnsWhat'd I miss? [06:57]
staticsafe@up_the_irons │ s1.lax went over its 128K route limit and CEF died [06:58]
mike-burnsCool, good to know.
Glad to be back, too. 		[06:59]
up_the_ironshttps://twitter.com/arpnetworks/status/426730720862560256 [07:00]
BryceBotTWITTER: One LAX core router (s1.lax) hit its CEF limit and went into software routing; time to move peering to the 6500 (s7.lax) (Fri Jan 24 14:58:26 +0000 2014) [07:00]
up_the_irons<3 BryceBot [07:00]
mike-burnsOh right I forgot about Twitter. My only thought was "I gotta get on IRC!" [07:00]
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mike-burnsThat's my thought for most of the day, though. [07:01]
antthe mentioning of the twitter post reminded me to build a new version of bitlbee to fix twitter. so now i can finaly use twitter again after i nearly forgot that is wasn't working [07:02]
m0unds_ouch
i seem to recall some TAC-confirmed bug with CEF on certain switch chassis' 		[07:02]
up_the_ironsin this case, it's actually a documented phenomenon. if you exhaust the hardware resources, then it likes to switch to software routing. go figure. [07:08]
m0unds_yeah
the one i'm thinking of causes it do the equiv of a core dump and totally die :)
friend of mine works for an ISP/MSP up in OR, had a 4500 hit that bug and dump a bunch of stuff offline - backup 4500 then totally died in the same exact way
just remembered it involving CEF is all :)
huh, funny. looks like there was a routing change to one vps at like 0230 MST
that one goes abq > denver > sjc > lax - other one still just goes abq > lax 		[07:08]
up_the_ironsthat sounds like a nasty bug [07:18]
m0undsyeah, didn't sound like much fun [07:24]
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staticsafehttp://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/01/modems-warez-and-ansi-art-remembering-bbs-life-at-2400bps/ [08:02]
BryceBotArs Technica: "Modems, wArEz, and ANSI art: Remembering BBS life at 2400bps" [08:03]
RandalSchwartz2400 was for the cool people... I started at 110 baud. :) [08:10]
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pcn_You still got that acoustic coupler in the garage?
IIRC they were built out of whatever they made abrams tanks out of 		[08:59]
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mnathaniup_the_irons: what model is the s1.lax ? (Cisco I a assume) [10:34]
m0undsup_the_irons: talked to my buddy - it was actually a similar thing- overflowing CEF table, switched to process switching mode, then died
must be exclusive to whatever ios rev they were on, but they swapped out that gear for new juniper stuff recently 		[10:41]
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hazardousis that only for specific usernames D:
https://twitter.com/officialjaden/status/329768040235413504 		[11:00]
BryceBotTWITTER: How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real (Thu May 02 01:23:22 +0000 2013, retweeted 17062 times) [11:00]
hazardousoh, any
hazardous hugs BryceBot 		[11:00]
bryceclol
everybody's hugging the bot, oy 		[11:01]
m0undsit's a lovable mutt [11:01]
brycecDoes more than just twitter URLs, you know :p Wikipedia, XKCD, Spotify, Amazon, Newegg... all sorts
eg http://xkcd.com/1321/
[11:02]
BryceBotCold http://xkcd.com/1321/ (2014-01-24) 'You see the same pattern all over. Take Detroit--' 'Hold on. Why do you know all these statistics offhand?' 'Oh, um, no idea. I definitely spend my evenings hanging out with friends, and not curating a REALLY NEAT database of temperature statistics. Because, pshh, who would want to do that, right? Also, snowfall records.' [11:02]
brycecit's definitely nice to not need bothering opening twitter [11:02]
hazardoushow does it work brycec
do you define individual url regexes and scrape them
or do you use oEmbed or something 		[11:05]
brycecAll of the above
Depends on the URL
Amazon hits noembed.com
xkcd hits a database of my own
Wikipedia, Newegg hit their own API
(Spotify is noembed too) 		[11:05]
hazardousfun
spotify has its own api btw
that returns a lot of interesting things 		[11:06]
brycechazardous: which is what noembed uses :P
At least I assume it does
Actually come to think of it, they just scrape the page 		[11:06]
hazardousit looks like it just returns scraping the <title> element [11:07]
brycecwhich I'm okay with [11:07]
hazardousthe actual spotify api returns things like
this song can be played in: US CA DE UK
length, a lot of other funky stuff 		[11:07]
brycecRequires oauth doesn't it?
(Which would be more overhead than it's worht) 		[11:07]
hazardousonly the authetnicated add to playlist one does i think
yeah, metadata doesn't
<released>2009</released> 		[11:08]
brycecah cool, good to know [11:08]
hazardous<territories>AD AR AT AU BE BG BO BR CH CL CO CR CY CZ DE DK DO EC EE ES FI GB GT HK HN HU IE IS IT LI LT LU LV MC MT MY NI NL NO NZ PA PE PH PL PT PY RO SG SI SK SV TR TW</territories>
<length>289.450000</length> 		[11:08]
brycec(ew xml) [11:08]
hazardousthere's .xml .json .xsl and some other weird things and jsonp [11:08]
brycecxsl? Excel Spreadsheet? [11:09]
hazardouswait, who needs six digit decimal accuracy on track length? [11:09]
brycecoh wait that's xls [11:09]
hazardousxsl is some weird xml thing
http://ws.spotify.com/search/1/track.json?q=mad+world 		[11:09]
brycecyeah, xslt stuff
Anyways, BryceBot supports most everything on http://noembed.com/providers with a few of my own override noembed 		[11:09]
hazardousyeah, their spotify.pm just scrapes <title>
i kinda want to submit, but i have never used perl before
and it vaguely scares me 		[11:10]
bryceclol, it's pretty easy actually. https://github.com/leedo/noembed/pull/24
I just copied another module and changed the names and URLs 		[11:11]
hazardous"I have not tested this code as I do not have an environment to run noembed within." lol [11:11]
brycecI'm not about to setup perl-wsgi wor whatever
But it worked :) 		[11:11]
hazardoushaha
yeah, i would probably end up doing like
perl xxx argv to test
and just making it dump to stdout or something
i actually tried to learn clojure basics last week
the hardest part was syntax, i guess
and operator arg arg 		[11:11]
brycecI embarked to learn Perl once, many many years ago
It's fairly readable as-is at least 		[11:13]
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toddfsee https://github.com/toddfries/Finance-CoinBase/blob/master/cb for some fun perl code that should be readable ;-) [12:05]
mike-burnsWhich part is readable? [12:06]
brycecthe word "Github" [12:06]
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toddfmike-burns: RandalSchwartz can say 'readable or not' the rest of you wimps I wouldn't trust to judge my perl codez ;-)
RandalSchwartz: curious if you've played with SPORE before 		[12:17]
brycecthe EA game? [12:17]
mike-burnsI wrote Perl for five years! (True facts: I've met RandalSchwartz on multiple occasions.) [12:17]
toddfbrycec: github.com/spore .. the multi language spec that lets you write a single .json file and after loading it .. you get a magic class that you can do function calls on that were described in the .json file
$ wc -l api-description/services/btc-e.json [12:19] <toddf> > Finance-btce/lib/Finance/btce.pm
65 api-description/services/btc-e.json
621 Finance-btce/lib/Finance/btce.pm 		[12:18]
brycecoh heh [12:19]
toddf65 lines of json to do what I do (almost) in 621 lines of raw perl code [12:19]
brycec(In all caps, I thought it was the game) [12:20]
mike-burnsSOAP but with JSON? [12:20]
toddf$randomsitesapi but with JSON
I have a json file I'm working on with one function call to reset my cablemodem. soon as I learn all about SPORE and html form submission
144 lines of json to describe all you'd ever want to do interacting with twitter for another example
see https://github.com/toddfries/api-description/blob/master/services/twitter.json for that
then in my app I could do: use Net::HTTP::Spore; my $api = Net::HTTP::Spore->new_from_spec("twitter.json"); $api->enable('Net::HTTP::Spore::Middleware::Format::JSON'); my $res = $api->retweeted_by_me({ format => 'json', count => 2 });
and handle the return bits in the $res var 		[12:20]
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up_the_ironsm0unds: yeah, i imagine if it was software switching that much traffic, it would eventually melt the RP ;)
mnathani: 4500 with SupIV
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brycecw00t! Newegg info is working once again! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131981 Sorry it was non-working for awhile. [13:22]
BryceBotASUS Z87-A LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard -- $139.99 [13:22]
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m0undsup_the_irons: you know something's wrong when your switch chassis becomes a puddle [13:31]
brycecof cement ;)
(referring to the UK Metro's recent issues) 		[13:32]
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up_the_ironsbrycec: tnx for fixing newegg info :)
m0unds: yep 		[16:38]
mnathanihttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131982 [16:42]
BryceBotASUS Z87-C LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard -- $129.49 [16:43]
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hazardouspotentially a strange question, but does anyone know how well freebsd runs on low memory machines (like 256/512 or less)
do i have to stick to pkg_add -r or can i do a lot of ports stuff 		[17:07]
m0undsi'm using pkgng on a 768
it's alright except pkgs are still wonky on freebsd
but much more bearable than ports 		[17:09]
mercutio256 could be quite different to 768
i imagine it's probably fine as long as you don't try using zfs 		[17:12]
hazardousi'm more or less brand new to bsd
i usually do debian or something 		[17:12]
mercutioi used to run openbsd on 64mb of ram [17:12]
hazardousi kinda wish linux could have bsd's see_other_uids thing be part of core [17:13]
mercutiohazardous: wasn't ther eplans to?
along with some much bigger frameowrk
i dunno how anyone is meant to keep up with linux
i'm not even using cgroups yet 		[17:13]
m0undsmemory use isn't even remotely a problem on a 768; the box uses less than 300MB on a regular basis
but it's also not running a ton of stuff
it's sitting at 206MB right now
haha
hazardous: what were you gonna do with it? just learning freebsd? 		[17:15]
hazardousmore or less [17:18]
m0undsshould be fine [17:19]
hazardousi actually have a bsd box in "prod" right now except i have no idea how to use it [17:19]
m0undslol [17:19]
hazardousall i know is i managed to set up a jail with an application server
hazardous air quote prod 		[17:19]
up_the_ironsi still have a Sparc laptop with OpenBSD 2.1. I think it has like 32MB of RAM. I used to use it for IRC; ran fvwm2 great! :) [17:24]
m0undswhoa, haha [17:25]
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mnathaniSorry, no "anycast" jobs were found that match your criteria
http://www.workopolis.com/jobsearch/job/14847946?uc=E8 		[22:28]
mercutiostrong voip component
ahh they specialise in voip
you shooting for that job mnathani ? 		[22:42]
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