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[06:45] <m0unds> anyone on kvr27 seeing godawful disk latency?
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[07:00] <m0unds> nevermind, resolved itself. took 15 minutes to run portsnap fetch update
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[09:13] <toddf> is anybody else using arpnetworks for VoIP via asterisk alike ?
[09:15] * brycec shakes his head
[09:15] <brycec> But only because I don't want to actually talk to anyone, vocally.
[09:15] <toddf> heh, owning a business its a necessity
[09:15] <toddf> in the last few weeks or longer not sure quality has really dropped
[09:16] <toddf> same vps same software ..
[09:16] <brycec> True and my employer already has their own physical Asterisk system :p
[09:16] <toddf> I'm getting ready to bypass my arpnetworks vps for a test as a last resort after introducing QoS rules on both my home network and arpnetworks vps
[09:16] <brycec> Good luck :)
[09:16] <toddf> I even added (as per my internal todo anyway) an alternate voip carrier same sucky quality
[09:17] <brycec> Seems pretty damning then
[09:17] <toddf> I tried calling on my android phone via my Mifi and via my wifi at home via cox 15mbit down 4mbit up
[09:17] <toddf> same sucky quality
[09:18] <toddf> so I don't think its my local link nor is it the carrier
[09:18] <m0unds> i used mine for a while
[09:18] <toddf> if the bypass works I'll attempt to see if up_the_irons has ideas, but of course don't want to pester him till I'm sure *grin*
[09:18] <m0unds> 768 sized vps for asterisk, but my phones at home were a PITA to get working with NAT
[09:19] <brycec> What type of degradation in quality? Latency, jitter/drops?
[09:19] <toddf> I have asterisk at home to channel sip ata186 and polycom sip -> iax2 -> vps -> { iax2 via voip.ms, now sip via vitelity.com }
[09:19] <brycec> lol
[09:19] <m0unds> i used sip via vitelity as well
[09:19] * brycec uses voip.ms
[09:20] <toddf> if I could describe it in a short phrase, dropped packets with lots of jitter, but mostly on the outbound path, I can hear mostly fine inbound, but get garbled audio at times as well
[09:20] <m0unds> hm
[09:20] <toddf> used to be burps now and then but I could easily successfully make a 1hr conf call and hear fine and they'd hear me fine
[09:20] <brycec> Might be worth a tcpdump and run that through Wireshark's rtp stream decoder
[09:21] <toddf> have one client that is burning through my `emergency prepaid mobile phone' minutes due to them (arguably with sound reasoning) not accepting the VoIP quality anymore "you have qos issues" ;-)
[09:23] <brycec> Very embarrassing
[09:23] <toddf> indeed
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[09:33] <toddf> nice vitelity uses regional dns to point me to nearby servers rather than me configuring a dozen servers manually the way I have to with voip.ms ;-)
[09:33] <brycec> 'tis nice
[09:33] <brycec> Though I've only ever changed voip.ms servers 2 or 3 times.
[09:35] <toddf> http://sprunge.us/hXIS
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[09:37] <toddf> I have my extensions.conf programmed to try them in sequence if the failure of Dial() in ${DIALSTATUS} == "CHANUNAVAIL"
[09:37] <brycec> And I've had a CHANUNAVAIL unless I ran out of credit :p
[09:37] <brycec> *I've never had
[09:38] <toddf> I learned this trick when I was with teliax
[09:38] <toddf> unfortunately their auto replenish caused me to be unavailable due to their system issue not mine, I'd login manually and 'fix' it by recharging my account with the same cc info they failed previously
[09:38] <toddf> there is a reason I'm no longer with teliax
[09:38] * brycec nods
[09:39] <toddf> quality was good, just .. disconnect me once, oops. disconnect me twice, shame on me for not voting with my feet.
[09:39] <toddf> http://sprunge.us/DBEe
[09:39] <toddf> thats my dial macro. probably underenginered still but at least its clear what I'm doing ;-)
[09:40] <brycec> Well, as clear as extensions.conf gets
[09:41] <brycec> Two questions: Why Background() instead of Playback(). Background is used when you allow the caller to interrupt the recording and enter digits, but there are no patterns in the macro to be matched.
[09:42] <brycec> And two, Ith might be clearer to chain the recordings, then it looks like a sentence. "Playback(channel&unavailable)"
[09:42] <toddf> hmm, vitelity could say 'bad auth' or something instead of 'busy' if I'm using the wrong username, heh
[09:44] <toddf> it is easier to edit, and maybe I had plans to add patterns to the macro when I developed it? is it harmful?
[09:44] <toddf> multiple lines makes for easier reading for me
[09:47] <brycec> harmful? Probably not really... Though it may give the impression to users that they're doing *something* because the recording stops (then probably hangs up because there's no 'i' extension, so the call terminates)
[09:57] <toddf> hmm, I've not experienced that, guess I'll read into it
[09:57] <toddf> in any event, bypassing arpnetworks and call quality worked to make an eye appointment and to my wife who confirms quality is back
[09:58] <toddf> m0unds: did you ever see any mention of vitelity using iax?
[09:59] <toddf> hmm, I'm noting articles of 'it works, but is not supported' heh
[10:01] <brycec> FWIW I'm using SIP with voip.ms. I can't remember why exactly (long time ago), but I seem to recall some issues with IAX on voip.ms. Might be worth giving SIP a shot.
[10:01] <toddf> iax -> arpnetworks -> sip vitality sucks
[10:01] <toddf> sip -> vitality rocks
[10:02] <toddf> I'm going with the theory that its arpnetworks not sip
[10:02] <toddf> probably iax -> voip.ms would also rock (aka no arpnetworks) but I'm wanting to ensure my 2nd outbound carrier functions properly so I'm using that as the basis
[10:02] <toddf> I keep typing vita when its vite heh
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[10:03] <toddf> vitelity also looks like they have a nice fax service voip.ms has no functional equivalent of, so likely port my toll free # over when they offer free did porting
[10:04] <toddf> Zoiper can do sip, but verizon mifi blocks sip, lets iax through *grin*
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[10:41] <m0unds> huh, random connectivity drop for anyone else?
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[10:46] <brycec> I'm still here, so... probably not?
[10:47] <brycec> (My smokeping appears clear too)
[10:47] <RandalSchwartz> as am I, and I'm usually the first one pushed off the boat.:)
[10:47] <brycec> Understandably :P
[10:48] <brycec> Could be route/transit-specific though. https://smokeping.cobryce.com/?target=Internet.Foonetic.vervet6 https://smokeping.cobryce.com/?target=Internet.Foonetic.staticfree6 both saw the same spike
[10:49] <toddf> I have another vps at arpnetworks I'm going to try setting up asterisk on
[10:49] <brycec> (A spike only seen from my VPS to two hosts in the outside world. Hosts that looked fine from my other slaves. And ARP itself appeared clean.)
[10:49] <toddf> theory being a smtp server and asterisk may not be the smartest combination
[10:50] <brycec> "...whatever's left, no matter how improbable..."
[10:50] <toddf> but I'll never know if it was the kvr host or the vps setup since two things will chance at once, if it stabalizes, I won't complain ;-)
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[10:54] <m0unds> huh. that's weird - blipped both v4 and v6 connectivity
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[10:55] <m0unds> oh well, no care ever
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[11:55] <mnathani> How can I determing what distribution of Linux / Unix this is :
[11:55] <mnathani> Linux HOSTNAME 2.6.9-103.ELsmp #1 SMP Fri Nov 11 14:34:02 EST 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
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[12:07] <brycec> Looks like CentOS 4.x
[12:07] <brycec> You can google the kernel, or there's usually /etc/*version or /etc/*release
[12:07] <brycec> May also be lsb_release
[12:08] <brycec> (Yep, CentOS/RHEL 4.x)
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[12:16] <qbit> \o/
[12:16] <qbit> up_the_irons: did you give up ont he redis hosting thing?
[12:16] <qbit> :D
[12:18] <mnathani> brycec: Thanks
[12:18] <brycec> np
[12:18] <brycec> I used to deploy CentOS 4.x systems, recognized the kernel straight away
[12:23] <up_the_irons> qbit: yeah pretty much
[12:24] <qbit> coo
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[14:08] <ant> i wonder if anybody here knows that guy: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/05/fios-customer-discovers-the-limits-of-unlimited-data-77-tb-in-month/
[14:08] <BryceBot> Ars Technica: "FiOS customer discovers the limits of “unlimited” data: 77TB a month"
[14:32] <up_the_irons> lol
[14:47] <up_the_irons> qbit: why, do you need redis hosting? :)
[14:47] <qbit> not really
[14:47] <qbit> have it on my vps
[14:51] <up_the_irons> ok
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[15:28] <mnathani> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7888880/what-is-redis-and-what-do-i-use-it-for
[15:29] <mnathani> ^ thats for me, so I get back to it via the logger : [FBI]
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[15:30] <brycec> haha
[15:30] <brycec> tl;dr It's a key-value store
[15:30] <brycec> Aaaand I can't answer the second part :p
[15:43] <m0unds> redis is good stuff
[15:46] <mike-burns> Tons of great uses for it.
[15:47] * brycec just doesn't have any uses for k/v stores
[15:48] * brycec usually needs a full relational db
[15:49] <mike-burns> I've never seen an app that only usees Redis.
[15:56] <brycec> I know of an IRC bot that does
[15:57] <brycec> (it's not BryceBot, obviously)
[15:57] <mike-burns> Ah that makes sense, actually.
[15:57] <brycec> qbit uses it to store all sorts of stuff, like databases of weed and beer
[16:01] <qbit> just weed
[16:05] <m0unds> hulu uses redis
[16:05] <m0unds> iirc
[16:05] <m0unds> doubt it's /only/ redis
[16:06] <mike-burns> YouPorn is mostly Redis.
[16:07] * staticsafe raises eyebrows
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[17:01] <up_the_irons> mnathani: poor man's bookmarks? ;)
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[17:26] <djma> are you there brycec
[17:26] <brycec> More or less, yes
[17:27] <djma> is regarding voip
[17:27] <djma> works well voip.ms
[17:27] <djma> ?
[17:28] <brycec> I can't comment upon it. I don't do it. Other users do.
[17:28] <djma> thank you
[17:30] <djma> toddf under what os run vitelity?
[17:30] <brycec> vitelity is a provider. You're better to ask them what OS they run. Or are you asking toddf what OS he runs?
[17:32] <djma> exactly
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[17:39] <djma> .
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[18:03] <mnathani> Do the linux Kernel Developers have a dedicated IRC channel?
[18:05] <brycec> Yes
[18:05] <brycec> several
[18:06] <mnathani> on freenode?
[18:06] <brycec> No idea. Probably one or two. Like #kernel.org
[18:06] <brycec> #kernelnewbies is on OFTC though
[18:06] <brycec> (yes, I'm just reading Google results :p)
[18:08] <mnathani> I know they do a lot of their work on mailing lists
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[21:44] <mnathani> up_the_irons: This way it will be easier to find. Other options would have been to email it to myself, add it to pinboard or del.icio.us or make a note in one note or evernote. But any of those options would make it less likely that I would remember where I had saved it in the first place. Also you notice I didnt even consider bookmarking it in the local browser, needs to be in the 'cloud'
[21:45] <brycec> don't most major browsers have bookmark/preference syncing?
[21:45] <brycec> (Chrome does, Firefox does, I think Safari might now... )
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[22:01] <milki> i still have delicous bookmarks >.>
[22:09] <up_the_irons> mnathani: hah yeah
[22:09] <up_the_irons> brycec: most do, yeah
[22:41] <brycec> up_the_irons: I was mostly just pointing it out to mnathani :p
[22:41] <up_the_irons> :)