[00:06] woo, new mogwai [00:06] stupid client [00:06] haha [00:07] *** m0unds has quit IRC (Quit: switching back) [00:09] *** m0unds has joined #arpnetworks [00:22] thanks guys for the ssl cert tips [00:23] ant: yeah it's consistent now [00:23] ant: you get the graph at the end of a practice / lesson (just like the app). i am liking that. [00:24] mnathani: i use one wildcard cert for my *.arpnetworks.com domains [01:12] brycec: so the frree startssl works on normal browsers? [01:12] that sounds tempting :) [01:12] i hate those warnings [01:12] but for stuff just i access i don't want to pay really [01:28] mercutio: yes. and startssl free is actually intended for personal use [01:36] *** laotzi has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [02:05] *** meingtsla has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:06] *** meingtsla has joined #arpnetworks [02:09] *** NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:13] *** NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks [02:31] *** NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:37] *** NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks [02:47] *** NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:50] *** NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks [03:17] mercutio: ant : but how is that different than you just creating your own CA cert and then signing your personal cert? then import the CA into your browser. [03:17] perhaps startssl just makes the process easier [03:21] up_the_irons: the startssl root cert is already in every browser, so you don't have to import anything [03:22] up_the_irons: by every i mean every browser i know of [03:22] ant: oh! nice [03:22] schön [03:45] at this point i realise i lost my cert for startssl [03:45] well crap [04:16] my German word of the day: Schraubenschlüssel [04:16] (wrench) [04:17] * up_the_irons heads to sleep [04:37] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [04:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [04:48] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [07:16] *** m0unds has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [07:33] *** m0unds has joined #arpnetworks [09:11] *** [FBI] starts logging #arpnetworks at Tue Jan 21 09:11:11 2014 [09:11] *** [FBI] has joined #arpnetworks [09:18] *** tehfink has joined #arpnetworks [09:18] [FBI] CIA [09:19] "[off]" is this line logged? :) [09:20] heh... [FBI] goes anywhere you invite it :) [09:20] I know. Was making a funny [09:21] ... *[FBI]* (09:19) Ok, joining channel #perl to log it. [09:21] heh [09:21] ... http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/perl?date=2014-01-21,Tue [09:22] heh... kicked off :) [09:22] oh heh [09:23] * brycec wonders why people still need to be explicitly told "blah blah blah without the quotes" [09:23] I wonder if the python people will do that... [09:24] heh... http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/ruby?date=2014-01-21,Tue [09:27] Silly Randal, Ruby isn't Python :P [09:52] *** pjs has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:53] *** pjs has joined #arpnetworks [09:53] *** pjs is now known as Guest75799 [09:57] RandalSchwartz: i remember sending [FBI] to # by accident. for "some reason" it didn't log that channel ;) [09:58] (at least i can't find the logs on the web page) [10:02] haha [10:07] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [10:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [10:16] *** Guest75799 is now known as pjs [10:19] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [10:29] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [11:06] *** laotzi has joined #arpnetworks [11:45] *** toddf has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [11:46] *** laotzi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:47] *** toddf has joined #arpnetworks [11:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [11:52] *** laotzi has joined #arpnetworks [11:52] *** toddf has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:09] *** toddf has joined #arpnetworks [12:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [12:28] *** toddf has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [12:32] *** toddf has joined #arpnetworks [12:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [13:01] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [13:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [13:18] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [13:23] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [13:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [13:23] *** TheHiTCHO has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [13:48] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [13:58] *** tehfink has quit IRC (Quit: tehfink) [14:31] *** TheHiTCHO has joined #arpnetworks [14:36] up_the_irons: with regards to cert it means importing into every browser [14:36] oh someone answered after that :) [14:41] heh, and this is why StartSSL >>>>> CACert [14:44] yeah i've used cacert in the past [14:47] As have I [14:47] I'm sooo happy to not be installing root certs, or dealing with incompatible visitors [14:58] ah yeah [14:58] *** Nat_RH is now known as Nat_RED [15:02] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [15:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [15:07] *** Nat_RED is now known as Nat_RH [15:12] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [15:14] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [15:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [15:24] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [15:33] staticsafe: in case you missed it, http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/16540-montana/ [15:37] *** mercutio has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [15:38] *** mercutio has joined #arpnetworks [15:38] *** mercutio is now known as Guest90344 [16:07] argh it still won't let me change nick [16:08] Guest90344: /msg nickserv release [16:08] *** Guest90344 is now known as mercutio [16:08] ahh got it [16:08] thanks [16:09] are school holidays not over yet? [16:09] is freenode still getting ddos'ed? [16:09] When Freenode splits, things get wonky. Sometimes services can't tell if your nick has been released by another (disconnected) server, so it gets stuck. [16:10] yeh i thought there must be some command [16:10] it wasn't ghost [16:11] heh ghost adds nicks to your account [16:11] really [16:11] GHOST disconnects an old user session, or somebody [16:11] Oh, what am I thinking of... [16:11] group perhaps [16:11] It's not like English is my first language or anything <.< [16:11] it sounded about right [16:11] >.> [16:11] but it didn't work and your command idd [16:12] yeah, ghost knocks another person off. release gets it un-stuck [16:12] \o/ wb mercutio [16:17] I am sure I had seen this previously: crashplan / code42 backup showcasing their list of well known enterprise customers. Cant seem to find it now. [16:17] http://www.crashplan.com [16:17] http://code42.com [16:24] have any of you observed weird load avg values on your VPS? [16:25] one of mine is totally idle, indicating a load avg of 5 or 6 at all times, no svcs, no disk activity, nada [16:25] top shows no processes running except ttys and ssh [16:25] 19:24:06 up 12 days, 20:11, 2 users, load average: 0.12, 0.03, 0.01 [16:25] it's so weird [16:25] 5:24PM up 27 days, 19:23, 1 user, load averages: 6.28, 5.90, 5.43 [16:25] VPS2: 19:24:43 up 57 days, 20:04, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05 [16:25] mnathani: which OS? [16:26] first one was centos6.5 [16:26] second ubuntu [16:26] i assume it's a locked up process or such [16:27] usually if you have an idle system, with high load average it has nothing to do with the host [16:27] oh also on bsd load average is higher than linux btw, but it doesn't mean that load is higher. [16:27] sure [16:27] but it doesn't help to ask anyway [16:27] oh it's linux [16:27] mine's not [16:27] i would look for processed locked in D state [16:27] none are [16:28] freebsd? [16:28] yep [16:28] zfs? [16:28] nope [16:28] hmm dunno :) [16:28] the only difference between this one and my other is that it's not on the same host box [16:29] and it's not slow at all? [16:29] nope [16:29] not even remotely [16:29] the mind boggles [16:29] i found a mention of a bug in early 9.0 kernels w/the timer causing erroneous load avg values [16:29] freebsd's xen support has always been a bit weird, but of course you'll be using kvm :) [16:30] yeah, it's driving me nuts though [16:30] hahaha [16:30] i wonder if it is timer related, you can change timer [16:30] yeah, tried rtc [16:30] hpet? [16:30] m0unds: forkrate? I used to use a tmux.conf that called a couple of scripts every 2 seconds, which fired off more commands... it spiked my load nasty. [16:30] it's on lapic by default [16:30] oh hpet is prob the default [16:30] hpet isn't available [16:30] guessing that's a kvm thing [16:30] is one of the hosts one of the new ones? [16:30] only timers available are rtc or lapic [16:30] old [16:30] and the other old [16:30] both old? [16:30] this one is old, other is new [16:31] like i said - only diff is the host box [16:31] haha [16:31] oh well maybe that is why one shows diff load avg [16:31] i have openbsd on old host and it doesn't show weird load average [16:31] hm [16:32] i assume it's freebsd 9.2? [16:32] yep [16:33] i'm sure someone else will be using that on old host [16:33] in here i mean [16:33] kvr26 [16:33] iirc [16:33] that's about what i'm on i think [16:33] oh nah [16:34] i'm on 15 [16:34] wow [16:34] wrong by heaps :) [16:34] i could be wrong too, hahahah [16:34] i know it's an old host though, qemu virt cpu version is different [16:34] oh yip [16:34] 0.9.1 vs 0.12.3 [16:35] i'm still wondering what freebsd 10 is like [16:35] i'll let you know later today [16:35] but with freebsd their .0 releases can be scary from past experience :/ [16:35] but looking at the chnagelog it doesnt' look too intimidating [16:36] yeah, i would usually wait [16:36] but the changes seemed pretty mild [16:36] i think they must be doing more major versions now [16:36] ikr [16:36] only part i'm not looking forward to is rebuilding 209 ports [16:36] with clang? :) [16:36] hahaha, i'd guess so [16:36] why don't you use packages? [16:37] shoot, i restarted irssi since yesterday [16:37] someone asked if i'd tried it yesterday [16:37] heh [16:37] i am thinking of trying freebsd 10 on an old server today [16:37] http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/arpnetworks?date=2014-01-20,Mon&sel=225#l221 [16:37] but it seems there's no small iso's :( [16:38] and i want to do virtual media over adsl [16:38] funny enough, the vps giving me trouble is the one i messed with pkg-ng on [16:38] openbsd is like 6 mb for smallest iso [16:38] freebsd 10 is like 915mb [16:38] 195mb [16:39] when adsl uploads at like 100k/sec the difference is significant [16:39] they seem to have a strange idea of "boot only" [16:41] lol [16:45] you never know maybe it touches hardly any of the data [16:51] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [16:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [17:16] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [18:34] *** r0ni has joined #arpnetworks [18:56] *** pjs has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:57] *** pjs has joined #arpnetworks [18:58] *** pjs is now known as Guest23134 [19:14] whats a good, free ticketing tool that can easily be configured to create a ticket in response to an email [19:21] RT can do that [19:36] RandalSchwartz: thanks [19:39] RT works great [19:40] any free hosted options? [19:41] I would host it myself, but the email portion could get tricky I assume. [19:42] *** Guest23134 has quit IRC (Quit: EPIC5-1.1.2[1638] - amnesiac : 6 million jews were harmed while making this script) [19:43] *** pjs has joined #arpnetworks [20:29] free+hosted eh? That's tricky. [20:29] mnathani: osTicket is pretty damn easy [20:29] As far as email, every ticket system I've used will poll POP3 and IMAP accounts [20:32] s/y$/y, and free./ [20:32] mnathani: osTicket is pretty damn easy, and free. [21:06] *** r0ni has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) [22:14] The last freebsd install I did was from an mfsbsd iso, strangely enough. mfsbsd ISOs are much smaller than the "bootonly" media [22:47] how does one invite [FBI] to log a new channel [22:52] cool, got it : Starting logging this channel #coursera-android [22:57] *** TheHiTCHO has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [22:58] heh [22:58] for the record it's /invite , and you have to be an op in the channel usually [23:00] oops: <-- | matp has kicked [FBI] (Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.) [23:02] lol perhaps thought you were/it was just trolling [23:02] (That's some client's default kick message too btw)