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| m0unds | woo, new mogwai
stupid client haha | [00:06] |
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| up_the_irons | thanks guys for the ssl cert tips
ant: yeah it's consistent now ant: you get the graph at the end of a practice / lesson (just like the app). i am liking that. mnathani: i use one wildcard cert for my *.arpnetworks.com domains | [00:22] |
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| mercutio | brycec: so the frree startssl works on normal browsers?
that sounds tempting :) i hate those warnings but for stuff just i access i don't want to pay really | [01:12] |
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| ant | mercutio: yes. and startssl free is actually intended for personal use | [01:28] |
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| up_the_irons | mercutio: ant : but how is that different than you just creating your own CA cert and then signing your personal cert? then import the CA into your browser.
perhaps startssl just makes the process easier | [03:17] |
| ant | up_the_irons: the startssl root cert is already in every browser, so you don't have to import anything
up_the_irons: by every i mean every browser i know of | [03:21] |
| up_the_irons | ant: oh! nice
schön | [03:22] |
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| hazardous | at this point i realise i lost my cert for startssl
well crap | [03:45] |
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| up_the_irons | my German word of the day: Schraubenschlüssel
(wrench) up_the_irons heads to sleep | [04:16] |
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| RandalSchwartz | [FBI] CIA
"[off]" is this line logged? :) heh... [FBI] goes anywhere you invite it :) I know. Was making a funny ... *[FBI]* (09:19) Ok, joining channel #perl to log it. heh ... http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/perl?date=2014-01-21,Tue heh... kicked off :) | [09:18] |
| brycec | oh heh
brycec wonders why people still need to be explicitly told "blah blah blah without the quotes" | [09:22] |
| RandalSchwartz | I wonder if the python people will do that...
heh... http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/ruby?date=2014-01-21,Tue | [09:23] |
| brycec | Silly Randal, Ruby isn't Python :P | [09:27] |
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| ant | RandalSchwartz: i remember sending [FBI] to # by accident. for "some reason" it didn't log that channel ;)
(at least i can't find the logs on the web page) | [09:57] |
| brycec | haha | [10:02] |
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| mercutio | up_the_irons: with regards to cert it means importing into every browser
oh someone answered after that :) | [14:36] |
| brycec | heh, and this is why StartSSL >>>>> CACert | [14:41] |
| mercutio | yeah i've used cacert in the past | [14:44] |
| brycec | As have I
I'm sooo happy to not be installing root certs, or dealing with incompatible visitors | [14:47] |
| up_the_irons | ah yeah | [14:58] |
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| m0unds | staticsafe: in case you missed it, http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/16540-montana/ | [15:33] |
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| Guest90344 | argh it still won't let me change nick | [16:07] |
| brycec | Guest90344: /msg nickserv release | [16:08] |
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| mercutio | ahh got it
thanks are school holidays not over yet? is freenode still getting ddos'ed? | [16:08] |
| brycec | When Freenode splits, things get wonky. Sometimes services can't tell if your nick has been released by another (disconnected) server, so it gets stuck. | [16:09] |
| mercutio | yeh i thought there must be some command
it wasn't ghost | [16:10] |
| brycec | heh ghost adds nicks to your account | [16:11] |
| mercutio | really
GHOST disconnects an old user session, or somebody | [16:11] |
| brycec | Oh, what am I thinking of...
group perhaps It's not like English is my first language or anything <.< | [16:11] |
| mercutio | it sounded about right | [16:11] |
| brycec | >.> | [16:11] |
| mercutio | but it didn't work and your command idd | [16:11] |
| brycec | yeah, ghost knocks another person off. release gets it un-stuck
o/ wb mercutio | [16:12] |
| mnathani | I am sure I had seen this previously: crashplan / code42 backup showcasing their list of well known enterprise customers. Cant seem to find it now.
http://www.crashplan.com http://code42.com | [16:17] |
| m0unds | have any of you observed weird load avg values on your VPS?
one of mine is totally idle, indicating a load avg of 5 or 6 at all times, no svcs, no disk activity, nada top shows no processes running except ttys and ssh | [16:24] |
| mnathani | 19:24:06 up 12 days, 20:11, 2 users, load average: 0.12, 0.03, 0.01 | [16:25] |
| m0unds | it's so weird
5:24PM up 27 days, 19:23, 1 user, load averages: 6.28, 5.90, 5.43 | [16:25] |
| mnathani | VPS2: 19:24:43 up 57 days, 20:04, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05 | [16:25] |
| m0unds | mnathani: which OS? | [16:25] |
| mnathani | first one was centos6.5
second ubuntu | [16:26] |
| mercutio | i assume it's a locked up process or such
usually if you have an idle system, with high load average it has nothing to do with the host oh also on bsd load average is higher than linux btw, but it doesn't mean that load is higher. | [16:26] |
| m0unds | sure
but it doesn't help to ask anyway | [16:27] |
| mercutio | oh it's linux | [16:27] |
| m0unds | mine's not | [16:27] |
| mercutio | i would look for processed locked in D state | [16:27] |
| m0unds | none are | [16:27] |
| mercutio | freebsd? | [16:28] |
| m0unds | yep | [16:28] |
| mercutio | zfs? | [16:28] |
| m0unds | nope | [16:28] |
| mercutio | hmm dunno :) | [16:28] |
| m0unds | the only difference between this one and my other is that it's not on the same host box | [16:28] |
| mercutio | and it's not slow at all? | [16:29] |
| m0unds | nope
not even remotely | [16:29] |
| mercutio | the mind boggles | [16:29] |
| m0unds | i found a mention of a bug in early 9.0 kernels w/the timer causing erroneous load avg values | [16:29] |
| mercutio | freebsd's xen support has always been a bit weird, but of course you'll be using kvm :) | [16:29] |
| m0unds | yeah, it's driving me nuts though
hahaha | [16:30] |
| mercutio | i wonder if it is timer related, you can change timer | [16:30] |
| m0unds | yeah, tried rtc | [16:30] |
| mercutio | hpet? | [16:30] |
| brycec | m0unds: forkrate? I used to use a tmux.conf that called a couple of scripts every 2 seconds, which fired off more commands... it spiked my load nasty. | [16:30] |
| m0unds | it's on lapic by default | [16:30] |
| mercutio | oh hpet is prob the default | [16:30] |
| m0unds | hpet isn't available
guessing that's a kvm thing | [16:30] |
| mercutio | is one of the hosts one of the new ones? | [16:30] |
| m0unds | only timers available are rtc or lapic
old | [16:30] |
| mercutio | and the other old
both old? | [16:30] |
| m0unds | this one is old, other is new
like i said - only diff is the host box haha | [16:30] |
| mercutio | oh well maybe that is why one shows diff load avg
i have openbsd on old host and it doesn't show weird load average | [16:31] |
| m0unds | hm | [16:31] |
| mercutio | i assume it's freebsd 9.2? | [16:32] |
| m0unds | yep | [16:32] |
| mercutio | i'm sure someone else will be using that on old host
in here i mean | [16:33] |
| m0unds | kvr26
iirc | [16:33] |
| mercutio | that's about what i'm on i think
oh nah i'm on 15 wow wrong by heaps :) | [16:33] |
| m0unds | i could be wrong too, hahahah
i know it's an old host though, qemu virt cpu version is different | [16:34] |
| mercutio | oh yip | [16:34] |
| m0unds | 0.9.1 vs 0.12.3 | [16:34] |
| mercutio | i'm still wondering what freebsd 10 is like | [16:35] |
| m0unds | i'll let you know later today | [16:35] |
| mercutio | but with freebsd their .0 releases can be scary from past experience :/
but looking at the chnagelog it doesnt' look too intimidating | [16:35] |
| m0unds | yeah, i would usually wait
but the changes seemed pretty mild | [16:36] |
| mercutio | i think they must be doing more major versions now
ikr | [16:36] |
| m0unds | only part i'm not looking forward to is rebuilding 209 ports | [16:36] |
| mercutio | with clang? :) | [16:36] |
| m0unds | hahaha, i'd guess so | [16:36] |
| mercutio | why don't you use packages? | [16:36] |
| m0unds | shoot, i restarted irssi since yesterday
someone asked if i'd tried it yesterday | [16:37] |
| mercutio | heh
i am thinking of trying freebsd 10 on an old server today | [16:37] |
| m0unds | http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/arpnetworks?date=2014-01-20,Mon&sel=225#l221 | [16:37] |
| mercutio | but it seems there's no small iso's :(
and i want to do virtual media over adsl | [16:37] |
| m0unds | funny enough, the vps giving me trouble is the one i messed with pkg-ng on | [16:38] |
| mercutio | openbsd is like 6 mb for smallest iso
freebsd 10 is like 915mb 195mb when adsl uploads at like 100k/sec the difference is significant they seem to have a strange idea of "boot only" | [16:38] |
| brycec | lol | [16:41] |
| mercutio | you never know maybe it touches hardly any of the data | [16:45] |
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| mnathani | whats a good, free ticketing tool that can easily be configured to create a ticket in response to an email | [19:14] |
| RandalSchwartz | RT can do that | [19:21] |
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| mnathani | RandalSchwartz: thanks | [19:36] |
| m0unds | RT works great | [19:39] |
| mnathani | any free hosted options?
I would host it myself, but the email portion could get tricky I assume. | [19:40] |
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| brycec | free+hosted eh? That's tricky.
mnathani: osTicket is pretty damn easy As far as email, every ticket system I've used will poll POP3 and IMAP accounts s/y$/y, and free./ | [20:29] |
| BryceBot | <brycec> mnathani: osTicket is pretty damn easy, and free. | [20:32] |
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| meingtsla | The last freebsd install I did was from an mfsbsd iso, strangely enough. mfsbsd ISOs are much smaller than the "bootonly" media | [22:14] |
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| mnathani | how does one invite [FBI] to log a new channel | [22:47] |
| cool, got it : Starting logging this channel #coursera-android | [22:52] | |
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| brycec | heh
for the record it's /invite <nick>, and you have to be an op in the channel usually | [22:58] |
| mnathani | oops: <-- | matp has kicked [FBI] (Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.) | [23:00] |
| brycec | lol perhaps thought you were/it was just trolling
(That's some client's default kick message too btw) | [23:02] |
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