m0unds: stupid client
haha ***: m0unds has quit IRC (Quit: switching back)
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ant: yeah it's consistent now
ant: you get the graph at the end of a practice / lesson (just like the app). i am liking that.
mnathani: i use one wildcard cert for my *.arpnetworks.com domains mercutio: brycec: so the frree startssl works on normal browsers?
that sounds tempting :)
i hate those warnings
but for stuff just i access i don't want to pay really ant: mercutio: yes. and startssl free is actually intended for personal use ***: laotzi has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: mercutio: ant : but how is that different than you just creating your own CA cert and then signing your personal cert? then import the CA into your browser.
perhaps startssl just makes the process easier ant: up_the_irons: the startssl root cert is already in every browser, so you don't have to import anything
up_the_irons: by every i mean every browser i know of up_the_irons: ant: oh! nice
schön hazardous: at this point i realise i lost my cert for startssl
well crap up_the_irons: my German word of the day: Schraubenschlüssel
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"[off]" is this line logged? :)
heh... [FBI] goes anywhere you invite it :)
I know. Was making a funny
... *[FBI]* (09:19) Ok, joining channel #perl to log it.
heh
... http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/perl?date=2014-01-21,Tue
heh... kicked off :) brycec: oh heh -: brycec wonders why people still need to be explicitly told "blah blah blah without the quotes" RandalSchwartz: I wonder if the python people will do that...
heh... http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/ruby?date=2014-01-21,Tue brycec: Silly Randal, Ruby isn't Python :P ***: pjs has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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pjs is now known as Guest75799 ant: RandalSchwartz: i remember sending [FBI] to # by accident. for "some reason" it didn't log that channel ;)
(at least i can't find the logs on the web page) brycec: haha ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
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TheHiTCHO has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: up_the_irons: with regards to cert it means importing into every browser
oh someone answered after that :) brycec: heh, and this is why StartSSL >>>>> CACert mercutio: yeah i've used cacert in the past brycec: As have I
I'm sooo happy to not be installing root certs, or dealing with incompatible visitors up_the_irons: ah yeah ***: Nat_RH is now known as Nat_RED
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heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) m0unds: staticsafe: in case you missed it, http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/16540-montana/ ***: mercutio has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
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mercutio is now known as Guest90344 Guest90344: argh it still won't let me change nick brycec: Guest90344: /msg nickserv release ***: Guest90344 is now known as mercutio mercutio: ahh got it
thanks
are school holidays not over yet?
is freenode still getting ddos'ed? brycec: When Freenode splits, things get wonky. Sometimes services can't tell if your nick has been released by another (disconnected) server, so it gets stuck. mercutio: yeh i thought there must be some command
it wasn't ghost brycec: heh ghost adds nicks to your account mercutio: really
GHOST disconnects an old user session, or somebody brycec: Oh, what am I thinking of...
group perhaps
It's not like English is my first language or anything <.< mercutio: it sounded about right brycec: >.> mercutio: but it didn't work and your command idd brycec: yeah, ghost knocks another person off. release gets it un-stuck
o/ wb mercutio mnathani: I am sure I had seen this previously: crashplan / code42 backup showcasing their list of well known enterprise customers. Cant seem to find it now.
http://www.crashplan.com
http://code42.com m0unds: have any of you observed weird load avg values on your VPS?
one of mine is totally idle, indicating a load avg of 5 or 6 at all times, no svcs, no disk activity, nada
top shows no processes running except ttys and ssh mnathani: 19:24:06 up 12 days, 20:11, 2 users, load average: 0.12, 0.03, 0.01 m0unds: it's so weird
5:24PM up 27 days, 19:23, 1 user, load averages: 6.28, 5.90, 5.43 mnathani: VPS2: 19:24:43 up 57 days, 20:04, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05 m0unds: mnathani: which OS? mnathani: first one was centos6.5
second ubuntu mercutio: i assume it's a locked up process or such
usually if you have an idle system, with high load average it has nothing to do with the host
oh also on bsd load average is higher than linux btw, but it doesn't mean that load is higher. m0unds: sure
but it doesn't help to ask anyway mercutio: oh it's linux m0unds: mine's not mercutio: i would look for processed locked in D state m0unds: none are mercutio: freebsd? m0unds: yep mercutio: zfs? m0unds: nope mercutio: hmm dunno :) m0unds: the only difference between this one and my other is that it's not on the same host box mercutio: and it's not slow at all? m0unds: nope
not even remotely mercutio: the mind boggles m0unds: i found a mention of a bug in early 9.0 kernels w/the timer causing erroneous load avg values mercutio: freebsd's xen support has always been a bit weird, but of course you'll be using kvm :) m0unds: yeah, it's driving me nuts though
hahaha mercutio: i wonder if it is timer related, you can change timer m0unds: yeah, tried rtc mercutio: hpet? brycec: m0unds: forkrate? I used to use a tmux.conf that called a couple of scripts every 2 seconds, which fired off more commands... it spiked my load nasty. m0unds: it's on lapic by default mercutio: oh hpet is prob the default m0unds: hpet isn't available
guessing that's a kvm thing mercutio: is one of the hosts one of the new ones? m0unds: only timers available are rtc or lapic
old mercutio: and the other old
both old? m0unds: this one is old, other is new
like i said - only diff is the host box
haha mercutio: oh well maybe that is why one shows diff load avg
i have openbsd on old host and it doesn't show weird load average m0unds: hm mercutio: i assume it's freebsd 9.2? m0unds: yep mercutio: i'm sure someone else will be using that on old host
in here i mean m0unds: kvr26
iirc mercutio: that's about what i'm on i think
oh nah
i'm on 15
wow
wrong by heaps :) m0unds: i could be wrong too, hahahah
i know it's an old host though, qemu virt cpu version is different mercutio: oh yip m0unds: 0.9.1 vs 0.12.3 mercutio: i'm still wondering what freebsd 10 is like m0unds: i'll let you know later today mercutio: but with freebsd their .0 releases can be scary from past experience :/
but looking at the chnagelog it doesnt' look too intimidating m0unds: yeah, i would usually wait
but the changes seemed pretty mild mercutio: i think they must be doing more major versions now
ikr m0unds: only part i'm not looking forward to is rebuilding 209 ports mercutio: with clang? :) m0unds: hahaha, i'd guess so mercutio: why don't you use packages? m0unds: shoot, i restarted irssi since yesterday
someone asked if i'd tried it yesterday mercutio: heh
i am thinking of trying freebsd 10 on an old server today m0unds: http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/arpnetworks?date=2014-01-20,Mon&sel=225#l221 mercutio: but it seems there's no small iso's :(
and i want to do virtual media over adsl m0unds: funny enough, the vps giving me trouble is the one i messed with pkg-ng on mercutio: openbsd is like 6 mb for smallest iso
freebsd 10 is like 915mb
195mb
when adsl uploads at like 100k/sec the difference is significant
they seem to have a strange idea of "boot only" brycec: lol mercutio: you never know maybe it touches hardly any of the data ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
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pjs is now known as Guest23134 mnathani: whats a good, free ticketing tool that can easily be configured to create a ticket in response to an email RandalSchwartz: RT can do that mnathani: RandalSchwartz: thanks m0unds: RT works great mnathani: any free hosted options?
I would host it myself, but the email portion could get tricky I assume. ***: Guest23134 has quit IRC (Quit: EPIC5-1.1.2[1638] - amnesiac : 6 million jews were harmed while making this script)
pjs has joined #arpnetworks brycec: free+hosted eh? That's tricky.
mnathani: osTicket is pretty damn easy
As far as email, every ticket system I've used will poll POP3 and IMAP accounts
s/y$/y, and free./ BryceBot: <brycec> mnathani: osTicket is pretty damn easy, and free. ***: r0ni has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) meingtsla: The last freebsd install I did was from an mfsbsd iso, strangely enough. mfsbsd ISOs are much smaller than the "bootonly" media mnathani: how does one invite [FBI] to log a new channel
cool, got it : Starting logging this channel #coursera-android ***: TheHiTCHO has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) brycec: heh
for the record it's /invite <nick>, and you have to be an op in the channel usually mnathani: oops: <-- | matp has kicked [FBI] (Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.) brycec: lol perhaps thought you were/it was just trolling
(That's some client's default kick message too btw)