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xiphias has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: A GTT support engineer asked me what "Pingdom" was... holy. shit. milki: :o josephb: :-[02:49] <josephb> "engineer" mercutio: up_the_irons: i expect lots of "network engineers" don't know what pingdom is
the whole idea of remote monitoring is kind of new really milki: having a pager isnt new, but sending reports to the pager automatically might be? mercutio: pingedom seems to integrate onto pages somehow
for some reason i'm getting daily monitoring availability reports from monitor.us now
i must have signed up sometime ***: qbit has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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easymac is now known as Guest4706 m0unds: remote monitoring has been around for a long time
outsourced remote monitoring is new
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but really surprising that that person didn't know pingdom, since they're one of the most popular
as an aside, if you want some free monitoring - uptimerobot.com (monitors from dallas,tx dublin ireland and singapore) milki: oo, engrish m0unds: yeah, haha ***: Rope has joined #arpnetworks m0unds: despite the bad english on the front page, it's been pretty decent, no FPs, etc ***: Rope has quit IRC (*.net *.split)
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serpentine has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) robonerd: how can i see how much disk my fbsd 9.2 is using? staticsafe: df -h robonerd: ty! ***: robonerd has quit IRC (Quit: ...)
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TheHiTCHO has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) hazardous: hi staticsafe! robonerd: hazardous so tell us more about your internet beginnings 2, or 3 years ago ***: Guest25426 is now known as easymac
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easymac is now known as Guest80855 mnathani: Did anyone else know that Vim is Charityware?
I always thought it was released under the GPL robonerd: maybe it's both?
www.coindev.org <- we just finished migrating our site to arp!
fbsd is so easy to configure ***: r0ni has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) mercutio: mnathani: they used to suggest people donate to uganda iirc
but yeah i knew
remember it cmae from amiga circles
and amiga was big with piracy and freeware
and not so big with shareware or gpl
there was a kind of ethos with amiga users of giving
like i'd imagine piracy was actually more common on amigas than it is on pc's now
but it's hard to know. it's a lot easier to priate stuff these days with bittorrent etc. but amiga users often used to copy floppies for each other etc
ahh it seems vim changed licenses ***: Guest80855 is now known as easymac
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looks like it changed years ago from public domain to charityware robonerd: it can change from public domain? mercutio: yeah
it doesnt' change the license of old version
but you can always go more restrictive on licenses on new versions
that's what happened with gcc
and why freebsd and openbsd aren't using current gcc versions
and why openbsd chooses to use older version of gcc, and freebsd clang/llvm
basically you can take any BSD or public domain software and stick a GPL license on it
and release it
which is why people say that GPL license corrupts
cos if you haev even one bit of GPL code it becomes GPL