A GTT support engineer asked me what "Pingdom" was... holy. shit. :o :-\ "engineer" up_the_irons: i expect lots of "network engineers" don't know what pingdom is the whole idea of remote monitoring is kind of new really having a pager isnt new, but sending reports to the pager automatically might be? pingedom seems to integrate onto pages somehow for some reason i'm getting daily monitoring availability reports from monitor.us now i must have signed up sometime remote monitoring has been around for a long time outsourced remote monitoring is new (er) but really surprising that that person didn't know pingdom, since they're one of the most popular as an aside, if you want some free monitoring - uptimerobot.com (monitors from dallas,tx dublin ireland and singapore) oo, engrish yeah, haha despite the bad english on the front page, it's been pretty decent, no FPs, etc how can i see how much disk my fbsd 9.2 is using? df -h ty! hi staticsafe! hazardous so tell us more about your internet beginnings 2, or 3 years ago Did anyone else know that Vim is Charityware? I always thought it was released under the GPL maybe it's both? www.coindev.org <- we just finished migrating our site to arp! fbsd is so easy to configure mnathani: they used to suggest people donate to uganda iirc but yeah i knew remember it cmae from amiga circles and amiga was big with piracy and freeware and not so big with shareware or gpl there was a kind of ethos with amiga users of giving like i'd imagine piracy was actually more common on amigas than it is on pc's now but it's hard to know. it's a lot easier to priate stuff these days with bittorrent etc. but amiga users often used to copy floppies for each other etc ahh it seems vim changed licenses hmm richard stallman got involved in discussion of vim license on debian mailing list in 2002 looks like it changed years ago from public domain to charityware it can change from public domain? yeah it doesnt' change the license of old version but you can always go more restrictive on licenses on new versions that's what happened with gcc and why freebsd and openbsd aren't using current gcc versions and why openbsd chooses to use older version of gcc, and freebsd clang/llvm basically you can take any BSD or public domain software and stick a GPL license on it and release it which is why people say that GPL license corrupts cos if you haev even one bit of GPL code it becomes GPL