#arpnetworks 2013-12-29,Sun

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up_the_ironsbrycec: same as with anything; if i get complaints, then you're done [00:33]
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hazardousso probably you'd survive 10 minutes as an exit
maybe less
middleman probably acceptable
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phluxI want to file a complaint [05:13]
ant“If you have a complaint, I suggest you submit it through our email system. I'd be happy to refer you to our website.” [05:22]
phluxWell
I'm complaining about every arp subscriber other than me
because I want the servers to myself
so
take that.
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GluffiSjust pay up and it is all yours :P [05:25]
phluxwhat? pay?
i thought this was America
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m0unds'murica [06:07]
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anttoday i've learned that freebsd's default ntpd config allows monlist queries to everyone, which enables malicious entities to abuse the ntp server to perfom amplification ddos attacks. so if your server responds to "ntpdc -c monl <server>" you should fix your config asap or you might become part of (and be responsible for) a ddos attack (this is comparable to running an open dns resolver) [12:42]
CaZe`FreeBSD is the Linux of the BSDs. [12:44]
RandalSchwartzat least it's not just linux :) [12:45]
m0unds_... [12:45]
BryceBotm0unds_: S [12:45]
RandalSchwartzit's the most unix-like of the linuxes [12:45]
m0unds_omgz must run teh opanbsdz for mad skurity [12:45]
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RandalSchwartzRandalSchwartz has a continual problem with people who type "..."
it's. Not. Needed. Evar.
just say what you're going to say when you're ready.
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m0unds_i was saying S
obviously
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RandalSchwartzRandalSchwartz rolls eyes [12:47]
anthttp://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/etc/ntp.conf?revision=259973&view=markup&pathrev=259973 [12:47]
RandalSchwartztrying to study what monl does [12:47]
antit makes the ntp server send you its last 600 clients/peers [12:48]
RandalSchwartzahh - so you can have that point at another server via source spoofing?
little request => big response => ddos
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antjep. as it's udp and you can put any source address in the request (if you're with a lame ass provider which doesn't implement bcp 38) [12:50]
RandalSchwartzso just add "disable monitor" to my ntp.conf? [12:51]
antas far as i understand it, it's "restrict noquery" which does the trick
but i think best would be to use this config: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/etc/ntp.conf?revision=259973&view=co&pathrev=259973
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RandalSchwartzok [12:53]
ant(which should be the new default as of 45 hours ago) [12:53]
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mercutiowhy doesn't freebsd use openntpd? [13:15]
m0unds_m0unds_ shrugs [13:23]
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robonerdhey all :) [20:45]
staticsafehi [20:48]
robonerdstaticsafe what's happenin? [21:01]
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