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ese has joined #arpnetworks ant: lol. those automatic replies to support e-mails are funny. i requested to have my vps changed to annual billing and the reply suggested i should read "If I have more than one VPS, how is traffic counted against my bandwidth quota?" :) ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
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grepidemic has joined #arpnetworks brycec: I'm sure the replies are useful and applicable for the bulk of up_the_irons' support emails, but I usually get replies of "email support@" WELL NO KIDDING, lol ant: dunno. my last support request was in june 2011... :) ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
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TheHiTCHO has joined #arpnetworks m0unds: random OT question - anyone here a fan of black metal? brycec: metals that are black? Or the music genre? m0unds: music genere
genre brycec: I don't think I am... Example of what's considered black metal? -: brycec likes some forms of metal, so it's possible m0unds: traditionally, i guess people would say mayhem, immortal, emperor
more modern being wolves in the throne room, deafheaven
i'm not as much a fan of earlier stuff because i like good recordings and early stuff is largely like 4-track tape and stuff and sounds like ass hazardous: i'm a fan of obsidian and cobalt m0unds: cobalt :)
if you haven't heard it, check out "Sunbather" by deafheaven, it's pretty great
http://deafheavens.bandcamp.com/album/sunbather hazardous: what is 4 track tape? m0unds: using an audio cassette to record 4 discrete audio tracks (in the context i mentioned) hazardous: i have no idea what that means m0unds: pro 4-track recordings on reel to reel or whatever sound great, and lots of good stuff was recorded that way over the years, but there's a lot of awful stuff recorded on cassette because it's cheap
oh
like..a tape player hazardous: what m0unds: WAAAAT hazardous: how do you play tape?
ok im not understanding this m0unds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_cassette
magic BryceBot: Compact Cassette :: The Compact Cassette or Musicassette (MC), also commonly called cassette tape, audio cassette, or simply tape or cassette, is a magnetic tape recording format for audio recording and playback. Compact cassettes come in two forms, either already containing content as a pre-recorded cassette, or as fully recordable "blank" cassette. It was designed originally for dictation machines, but improvements in fidelity led the... hazardous: that sounds ridiculous
wtf, 60 minutes?
man
i had dvd-rw's as a kid :( staticsafe: hazardous: stop making us feel old
:( hazardous: :( -: hazardous hugs static m0unds: gah hazardous: staticsafe: just because you said that, my first internet connection was broadband and i've never used dialup before. i've also never physically handled a floppy disk before and my computers all my lif enever had one of those ancient 3.25" drives
:V m0unds: i'm not even out of my 20s and i feel ancient thinking that there's a generation of kids who don't know wtf cassette tapes are brycec: staticsafe++ hazardous: BryceBot++ brycec: m0unds++
@karmaboard BryceBot: Karmaboard (top 5): i: 2 staticsafe: 1 m0unds: 1 brycebot: 1 rss2email: 1 m0unds: hahaha hazardous: has anyoen used one of thisese http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd m0unds: negative
touch + linux de? ehhhh hazardous: ehhhhh ***: robonerd has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) m0unds: ugh, my employer cut over from TWT to Centurylink today - horrrrrrrrible staticsafe: :o m0unds: TWT wasn't great, but their routing wasn't godawful
ABQ->ATL = ABQ->LAX->DEN->MIA->ATL
all on centurylink's network
~110ms round trip
TWT ABQ->ATL = ABQ->DEN->ATL, 50ms ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer staticsafe: nice m0unds: so ready to go home ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) robonerd: centurylink SUCKS
frontiernet too brycec: low-latency is overrated
<.<
>.> m0unds: haha -: staticsafe routes brycec through satellite m0unds: their peering w/ntt on the west coast is horrid
i'm trying to put some files on a remote box and i'm getting a whopping 120KB/sec brycec: s/horrid/cheap/ BryceBot: <m0unds> their peering w/ntt on the west coast is cheap m0unds: TWT, i'd regularly hit 12-13MB/sec to the same destination brycec: wow... m0unds: yeah
it would be faster for me to tunnel to my cable connection at home and upload it that way than it would be for me to continue this way brycec: Or tether your phone? :p m0unds: that'd be faster too
haha brycec: (Since getting LTE, my cellphone has a faster connection that my office does, in both directions.) m0unds: hahaha brycec: But the office is still 1/3 the latency
Plus servers etc. m0unds: i had to use my phone as an internet connection in one of my hub rooms because the provided drop was hilariously bad
i couldn't even get reliable ssh going over it because it was so congested
(the provided link)
ended up having to use my phone to grab switch images and stuff. pretty sad. brycec: Argh, HE is sucking bad today m0unds: yeah? brycec: Random windows of packet loss m0unds: yuck brycec: Across the board too - my connections to Google, to ARP, etc m0unds: ouch
tunnel? brycec: yeah m0unds: bummer brycec: TWC doesn't do native ipv6 m0unds: gotcha
comcast biz doesn't either - just configured one of my VPS' to do it brycec: I still need to get around to moving off HE and using ARP
But most of the time, HE is okay m0unds: latency for me via he was super high to all west coast pops
that's part of why i ended up doing arp - most of my westward traffic hits LA, and my vps is 30ms from me so it doesn't really introduce a ton of latency brycec: my vps is 90ms from me (at work), 125ms over HE. It's okay, I guess.
What's really wild though is my home connection: 51ms ipv4, 47ms HE ipv6 tunnel m0unds: hm brycec: (office 14 hops to POP, home 10 hops to POP) -: brycec hops on POP brycec: (home v4 13 hops to vps, v6 8 hops)
(or... 27 versus 14 hops)
(office v4 14 hops to vps, v6 8 hops, so 28 vs 14 hops) ***: laotzi has joined #arpnetworks
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overhauled my firewall rules and qos and stuff and now i have nothing left to do ***: fink has joined #arpnetworks
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laotzi has quit IRC (Client Quit) -: brycec found a switch that wasn't observing/honouring STP...
brycec loops switches into themselves when bored m0unds: hahahaha
decix had a switch issue that caused a switch loop condition w/broadcast ntp traffic on ipv6
generated a near 1tbit storm
back in june brycec: heh i remember that m0unds: force10 i think
i went and grounded some industrial switches in a parking lot, reconfigured some other stuff, redid my firewall rules on my home gwy, and now i'm completely out of stuff to do
redid some stuff in solarwinds -: brycec wonders why a single host on a given switch has gone unresponsive brycec: Other systems on that switch are fine... Hmm m0unds: we had a run of bad intel nics that would intermittently drop ***: mike-burns has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) brycec: not the system fortunately
I think the switch is getting pissed off about life or something
ifconfig down/up and dhclient and it started back up again
Loop another pair of the switches ports, bam offline again. down/up dhclient and back in business
Whenever the switch caught up to STP, that one singular host on the switch went poof
Also, I have way too much broadcast traffic for a tcpdump over a 9600bps console :( ***: Hien has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) -: brycec adds it to the mental "huh, how odd" file m0unds: haha up_the_irons: indeed, hazardous has made me feel old as well.. ***: CaZe` has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) up_the_irons: i still have some 5.25" floppies that have QBASIC code I wrote when I was like 12 ***: CaZe` has joined #arpnetworks
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