[00:06] *** plett has joined #arpnetworks [05:54] *** Nat_RH has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [05:56] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [05:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [05:56] *** Nat_RH has joined #arpnetworks [06:22] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [06:53] *** brachiation has left [06:55] *** grepocalypse has joined #arpnetworks [07:05] *** grepocalypse has left [07:11] *** ese has joined #arpnetworks [07:28] lol. those automatic replies to support e-mails are funny. i requested to have my vps changed to annual billing and the reply suggested i should read "If I have more than one VPS, how is traffic counted against my bandwidth quota?" :) [07:51] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [07:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [07:54] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [07:54] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [07:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [08:02] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [08:10] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [08:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [08:14] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:14] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [08:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [08:25] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [08:36] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [08:40] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Client Quit) [08:53] *** grepidemic has joined #arpnetworks [09:13] I'm sure the replies are useful and applicable for the bulk of up_the_irons' support emails, but I usually get replies of "email support@" WELL NO KIDDING, lol [09:58] dunno. my last support request was in june 2011... :) [10:01] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [10:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [10:19] email ant@ [10:20] hazardous: that will probably bounce [10:26] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [10:30] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [10:30] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [10:45] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [11:31] *** milki has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [11:31] *** milki has joined #arpnetworks [11:31] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [11:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [11:31] *** qbit has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:31] *** qbit has joined #arpnetworks [11:31] *** tmarble has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:31] *** tmarble has joined #arpnetworks [11:43] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [11:57] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [11:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [12:09] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [12:48] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [12:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [13:15] *** laotzi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [13:17] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [13:38] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [13:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [14:01] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [14:57] *** BryceBot has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [14:58] *** BryceBot has joined #arpnetworks [15:07] *** xiphias has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:08] *** xiphias has joined #arpnetworks [15:59] *** TheHiTCHO has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [16:00] *** TheHiTCHO has joined #arpnetworks [16:12] random OT question - anyone here a fan of black metal? [16:12] metals that are black? Or the music genre? [16:13] music genere [16:13] genre [16:14] I don't think I am... Example of what's considered black metal? [16:15] * brycec likes some forms of metal, so it's possible [16:16] traditionally, i guess people would say mayhem, immortal, emperor [16:16] more modern being wolves in the throne room, deafheaven [16:17] i'm not as much a fan of earlier stuff because i like good recordings and early stuff is largely like 4-track tape and stuff and sounds like ass [16:22] i'm a fan of obsidian and cobalt [16:22] cobalt :) [16:22] if you haven't heard it, check out "Sunbather" by deafheaven, it's pretty great [16:25] http://deafheavens.bandcamp.com/album/sunbather [16:27] what is 4 track tape? [16:28] using an audio cassette to record 4 discrete audio tracks (in the context i mentioned) [16:29] i have no idea what that means [16:29] pro 4-track recordings on reel to reel or whatever sound great, and lots of good stuff was recorded that way over the years, but there's a lot of awful stuff recorded on cassette because it's cheap [16:29] oh [16:29] like..a tape player [16:29] what [16:29] WAAAAT [16:29] how do you play tape? [16:29] ok im not understanding this [16:29] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_cassette [16:29] magic [16:29] Compact Cassette :: The Compact Cassette or Musicassette (MC), also commonly called cassette tape, audio cassette, or simply tape or cassette, is a magnetic tape recording format for audio recording and playback. Compact cassettes come in two forms, either already containing content as a pre-recorded cassette, or as fully recordable "blank" cassette. It was designed originally for dictation machines, but improvements in fidelity led the... [16:29] that sounds ridiculous [16:29] wtf, 60 minutes? [16:30] man [16:30] i had dvd-rw's as a kid :( [16:30] hazardous: stop making us feel old [16:30] :( [16:30] :( [16:30] * hazardous hugs static [16:30] gah [16:31] staticsafe: just because you said that, my first internet connection was broadband and i've never used dialup before. i've also never physically handled a floppy disk before and my computers all my lif enever had one of those ancient 3.25" drives [16:31] :V [16:31] i'm not even out of my 20s and i feel ancient thinking that there's a generation of kids who don't know wtf cassette tapes are [16:33] staticsafe++ [16:34] BryceBot++ [16:35] m0unds++ [16:35] @karmaboard [16:35] Karmaboard (top 5): i: 2 staticsafe: 1 m0unds: 1 brycebot: 1 rss2email: 1 [16:35] hahaha [16:38] has anyoen used one of thisese http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd [16:39] negative [16:40] touch + linux de? ehhhh [16:51] ehhhhh [17:00] *** robonerd has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [17:01] *** robonerd has joined #arpnetworks [17:01] *** robonerd has quit IRC (Changing host) [17:01] *** robonerd has joined #arpnetworks [17:02] *** robonerd has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [17:02] *** robonerd has joined #arpnetworks [17:30] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [17:30] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [17:46] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [18:19] ugh, my employer cut over from TWT to Centurylink today - horrrrrrrrible [18:20] :o [18:21] TWT wasn't great, but their routing wasn't godawful [18:21] ABQ->ATL = ABQ->LAX->DEN->MIA->ATL [18:21] all on centurylink's network [18:22] ~110ms round trip [18:22] TWT ABQ->ATL = ABQ->DEN->ATL, 50ms [18:28] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [18:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [18:33] nice [18:42] so ready to go home [18:43] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [18:43] centurylink SUCKS [18:43] frontiernet too [18:43] low-latency is overrated [18:43] <.< [18:43] >.> [18:45] haha [18:45] * staticsafe routes brycec through satellite [18:45] their peering w/ntt on the west coast is horrid [18:45] i'm trying to put some files on a remote box and i'm getting a whopping 120KB/sec [18:46] s/horrid/cheap/ [18:46] their peering w/ntt on the west coast is cheap [18:46] TWT, i'd regularly hit 12-13MB/sec to the same destination [18:46] wow... [18:46] yeah [18:46] it would be faster for me to tunnel to my cable connection at home and upload it that way than it would be for me to continue this way [18:47] Or tether your phone? :p [18:47] that'd be faster too [18:47] haha [18:47] (Since getting LTE, my cellphone has a faster connection that my office does, in both directions.) [18:47] hahaha [18:48] But the office is still 1/3 the latency [18:48] Plus servers etc. [18:48] i had to use my phone as an internet connection in one of my hub rooms because the provided drop was hilariously bad [18:48] i couldn't even get reliable ssh going over it because it was so congested [18:48] (the provided link) [18:49] ended up having to use my phone to grab switch images and stuff. pretty sad. [18:49] Argh, HE is sucking bad today [18:50] yeah? [18:50] Random windows of packet loss [18:50] yuck [18:50] Across the board too - my connections to Google, to ARP, etc [18:51] ouch [18:51] tunnel? [18:51] yeah [18:51] bummer [18:51] TWC doesn't do native ipv6 [18:51] gotcha [18:51] comcast biz doesn't either - just configured one of my VPS' to do it [18:52] I still need to get around to moving off HE and using ARP [18:52] But most of the time, HE is okay [18:52] latency for me via he was super high to all west coast pops [18:53] that's part of why i ended up doing arp - most of my westward traffic hits LA, and my vps is 30ms from me so it doesn't really introduce a ton of latency [18:54] my vps is 90ms from me (at work), 125ms over HE. It's okay, I guess. [18:55] What's really wild though is my home connection: 51ms ipv4, 47ms HE ipv6 tunnel [18:56] hm [18:56] (office 14 hops to POP, home 10 hops to POP) [18:56] * brycec hops on POP [18:57] (home v4 13 hops to vps, v6 8 hops) [18:58] (or... 27 versus 14 hops) [18:59] (office v4 14 hops to vps, v6 8 hops, so 28 vs 14 hops) [19:01] *** laotzi has joined #arpnetworks [19:01] *** laotzi has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:03] *** laotzi has joined #arpnetworks [19:08] *** laotzi has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:15] ah [19:26] overhauled my firewall rules and qos and stuff and now i have nothing left to do [19:30] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [19:37] *** laotzi has joined #arpnetworks [19:38] *** laotzi has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:38] *** laotzi has joined #arpnetworks [19:40] *** laotzi has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:40] *** laotzi has joined #arpnetworks [19:42] *** laotzi has quit IRC (Client Quit) [20:06] * brycec found a switch that wasn't observing/honouring STP... [20:06] * brycec loops switches into themselves when bored [20:06] hahahaha [20:07] decix had a switch issue that caused a switch loop condition w/broadcast ntp traffic on ipv6 [20:07] generated a near 1tbit storm [20:07] back in june [20:07] heh i remember that [20:07] force10 i think [20:08] i went and grounded some industrial switches in a parking lot, reconfigured some other stuff, redid my firewall rules on my home gwy, and now i'm completely out of stuff to do [20:09] redid some stuff in solarwinds [20:12] * brycec wonders why a single host on a given switch has gone unresponsive [20:13] Other systems on that switch are fine... Hmm [20:18] we had a run of bad intel nics that would intermittently drop [20:18] *** mike-burns has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [20:33] not the system fortunately [20:33] I think the switch is getting pissed off about life or something [20:34] ifconfig down/up and dhclient and it started back up again [20:34] Loop another pair of the switches ports, bam offline again. down/up dhclient and back in business [20:35] Whenever the switch caught up to STP, that one singular host on the switch went poof [20:35] Also, I have way too much broadcast traffic for a tcpdump over a 9600bps console :( [20:37] *** Hien has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [20:37] * brycec adds it to the mental "huh, how odd" file [20:52] haha [20:54] indeed, hazardous has made me feel old as well.. 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