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ant | lol. those automatic replies to support e-mails are funny. i requested to have my vps changed to annual billing and the reply suggested i should read "If I have more than one VPS, how is traffic counted against my bandwidth quota?" :) | [07:28] |
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brycec | I'm sure the replies are useful and applicable for the bulk of up_the_irons' support emails, but I usually get replies of "email support@" WELL NO KIDDING, lol | [09:13] |
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ant | dunno. my last support request was in june 2011... :) | [09:58] |
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hazardous | email ant@ | [10:19] |
ant | hazardous: that will probably bounce | [10:20] |
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m0unds | random OT question - anyone here a fan of black metal? | [16:12] |
brycec | metals that are black? Or the music genre? | [16:12] |
m0unds | music genere
genre | [16:13] |
brycec | I don't think I am... Example of what's considered black metal?
brycec likes some forms of metal, so it's possible | [16:14] |
m0unds | traditionally, i guess people would say mayhem, immortal, emperor
more modern being wolves in the throne room, deafheaven i'm not as much a fan of earlier stuff because i like good recordings and early stuff is largely like 4-track tape and stuff and sounds like ass | [16:16] |
hazardous | i'm a fan of obsidian and cobalt | [16:22] |
m0unds | cobalt :)
if you haven't heard it, check out "Sunbather" by deafheaven, it's pretty great http://deafheavens.bandcamp.com/album/sunbather | [16:22] |
hazardous | what is 4 track tape? | [16:27] |
m0unds | using an audio cassette to record 4 discrete audio tracks (in the context i mentioned) | [16:28] |
hazardous | i have no idea what that means | [16:29] |
m0unds | pro 4-track recordings on reel to reel or whatever sound great, and lots of good stuff was recorded that way over the years, but there's a lot of awful stuff recorded on cassette because it's cheap
oh like..a tape player | [16:29] |
hazardous | what | [16:29] |
m0unds | WAAAAT | [16:29] |
hazardous | how do you play tape?
ok im not understanding this | [16:29] |
m0unds | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_cassette
magic | [16:29] |
BryceBot | Compact Cassette :: The Compact Cassette or Musicassette (MC), also commonly called cassette tape, audio cassette, or simply tape or cassette, is a magnetic tape recording format for audio recording and playback. Compact cassettes come in two forms, either already containing content as a pre-recorded cassette, or as fully recordable "blank" cassette. It was designed originally for dictation machines, but improvements in fidelity led the... | [16:29] |
hazardous | that sounds ridiculous
wtf, 60 minutes? man i had dvd-rw's as a kid :( | [16:29] |
staticsafe | hazardous: stop making us feel old
:( | [16:30] |
hazardous | :(
hazardous hugs static | [16:30] |
m0unds | gah | [16:30] |
hazardous | staticsafe: just because you said that, my first internet connection was broadband and i've never used dialup before. i've also never physically handled a floppy disk before and my computers all my lif enever had one of those ancient 3.25" drives
:V | [16:31] |
m0unds | i'm not even out of my 20s and i feel ancient thinking that there's a generation of kids who don't know wtf cassette tapes are | [16:31] |
brycec | staticsafe++ | [16:33] |
hazardous | BryceBot++ | [16:34] |
brycec | m0unds++
@karmaboard | [16:35] |
BryceBot | Karmaboard (top 5): i: 2 staticsafe: 1 m0unds: 1 brycebot: 1 rss2email: 1 | [16:35] |
m0unds | hahaha | [16:35] |
hazardous | has anyoen used one of thisese http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd | [16:38] |
m0unds | negative
touch + linux de? ehhhh | [16:39] |
hazardous | ehhhhh | [16:51] |
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m0unds | ugh, my employer cut over from TWT to Centurylink today - horrrrrrrrible | [18:19] |
staticsafe | :o | [18:20] |
m0unds | TWT wasn't great, but their routing wasn't godawful
ABQ->ATL = ABQ->LAX->DEN->MIA->ATL all on centurylink's network ~110ms round trip TWT ABQ->ATL = ABQ->DEN->ATL, 50ms | [18:21] |
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staticsafe | nice | [18:33] |
m0unds | so ready to go home | [18:42] |
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robonerd | centurylink SUCKS
frontiernet too | [18:43] |
brycec | low-latency is overrated
<.< >.> | [18:43] |
m0unds | haha | [18:45] |
staticsafe | staticsafe routes brycec through satellite | [18:45] |
m0unds | their peering w/ntt on the west coast is horrid
i'm trying to put some files on a remote box and i'm getting a whopping 120KB/sec | [18:45] |
brycec | s/horrid/cheap/ | [18:46] |
BryceBot | <m0unds> their peering w/ntt on the west coast is cheap | [18:46] |
m0unds | TWT, i'd regularly hit 12-13MB/sec to the same destination | [18:46] |
brycec | wow... | [18:46] |
m0unds | yeah
it would be faster for me to tunnel to my cable connection at home and upload it that way than it would be for me to continue this way | [18:46] |
brycec | Or tether your phone? :p | [18:47] |
m0unds | that'd be faster too
haha | [18:47] |
brycec | (Since getting LTE, my cellphone has a faster connection that my office does, in both directions.) | [18:47] |
m0unds | hahaha | [18:47] |
brycec | But the office is still 1/3 the latency
Plus servers etc. | [18:48] |
m0unds | i had to use my phone as an internet connection in one of my hub rooms because the provided drop was hilariously bad
i couldn't even get reliable ssh going over it because it was so congested (the provided link) ended up having to use my phone to grab switch images and stuff. pretty sad. | [18:48] |
brycec | Argh, HE is sucking bad today | [18:49] |
m0unds | yeah? | [18:50] |
brycec | Random windows of packet loss | [18:50] |
m0unds | yuck | [18:50] |
brycec | Across the board too - my connections to Google, to ARP, etc | [18:50] |
m0unds | ouch
tunnel? | [18:51] |
brycec | yeah | [18:51] |
m0unds | bummer | [18:51] |
brycec | TWC doesn't do native ipv6 | [18:51] |
m0unds | gotcha
comcast biz doesn't either - just configured one of my VPS' to do it | [18:51] |
brycec | I still need to get around to moving off HE and using ARP
But most of the time, HE is okay | [18:52] |
m0unds | latency for me via he was super high to all west coast pops
that's part of why i ended up doing arp - most of my westward traffic hits LA, and my vps is 30ms from me so it doesn't really introduce a ton of latency | [18:52] |
brycec | my vps is 90ms from me (at work), 125ms over HE. It's okay, I guess.
What's really wild though is my home connection: 51ms ipv4, 47ms HE ipv6 tunnel | [18:54] |
m0unds | hm | [18:56] |
brycec | (office 14 hops to POP, home 10 hops to POP)
brycec hops on POP (home v4 13 hops to vps, v6 8 hops) (or... 27 versus 14 hops) (office v4 14 hops to vps, v6 8 hops, so 28 vs 14 hops) | [18:56] |
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m0unds | ah | [19:15] |
overhauled my firewall rules and qos and stuff and now i have nothing left to do | [19:26] | |
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brycec | brycec found a switch that wasn't observing/honouring STP...
brycec loops switches into themselves when bored | [20:06] |
m0unds | hahahaha
decix had a switch issue that caused a switch loop condition w/broadcast ntp traffic on ipv6 generated a near 1tbit storm back in june | [20:06] |
brycec | heh i remember that | [20:07] |
m0unds | force10 i think
i went and grounded some industrial switches in a parking lot, reconfigured some other stuff, redid my firewall rules on my home gwy, and now i'm completely out of stuff to do redid some stuff in solarwinds | [20:07] |
brycec | brycec wonders why a single host on a given switch has gone unresponsive
Other systems on that switch are fine... Hmm | [20:12] |
m0unds | we had a run of bad intel nics that would intermittently drop | [20:18] |
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brycec | not the system fortunately
I think the switch is getting pissed off about life or something ifconfig down/up and dhclient and it started back up again Loop another pair of the switches ports, bam offline again. down/up dhclient and back in business Whenever the switch caught up to STP, that one singular host on the switch went poof Also, I have way too much broadcast traffic for a tcpdump over a 9600bps console :( | [20:33] |
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brycec | brycec adds it to the mental "huh, how odd" file | [20:37] |
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m0unds | haha | [20:52] |
up_the_irons | indeed, hazardous has made me feel old as well.. | [20:54] |
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up_the_irons | i still have some 5.25" floppies that have QBASIC code I wrote when I was like 12 | [20:55] |
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