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Nyotron has joined #arpnetworks Nyotron: hello. any staff here? m0unds: Nyotron: up_the_irons is staff, as the topic mentions
usually best to just mention him and ask your question and wait for an answer or submit a ticket if it's a support issue ***: xiphias has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) Nyotron: yeah thanks, i just wanted to know if any staff is available. ***: xiphias has joined #arpnetworks Nyotron: anyway, up_the_irons: hello. please let me know when you're around. ***: qbit has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) CaZe`: He is the staff. ***: qbit has joined #arpnetworks Nyotron: i got that. ***: Nyotron has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) CaZe`: He's the only staff. ***: Nyotron has joined #arpnetworks
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xiphias has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: his is a lonely job :)
but at least he's employee #1 each month! ***: qbit has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
qbit_ has joined #arpnetworks m0unds: hahaha ***: qbit_ is now known as qbit RandalSchwartz: my company is similar m0unds: i'm employee # 5581 RandalSchwartz: at one point I had 3 employees and seven nearly full time contractors ***: xiphias has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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qbit_ has joined #arpnetworks qbit_: so
i have issues connecting to irc on one of my hosts - but not the other
no idea why CaZe`: Why did you disconnect? qbit_: not sure
can't find any info on why it did
08:46 [FreeNode] ::: Irssi: Connection lost to irc.freenode.net CaZe`: You didn't ping out.
18:41:31 [freenode] -!- ERROR Closing Link: 2607:f2f8:a678::2 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
You don't see anything like that? ***: qbit_ is now known as qbit
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qbit has joined #arpnetworks qbit: nope
nothing
i get packet loss pinging chat.freenode.net tho m0unds: maybe try another server? qbit: i get it from the other host as well tho
but never got disconnectes m0unds: like, try a specific one vs irc.freenode or chat.freenode qbit: yep - tried m0unds: weird. qbit: same result CaZe`: I get occasional huge spikes in lag over ipv6. lteo: qbit: which specific one did you ping? i can try from mine too CaZe`: I used to have my lag timeout at 30s, and my client would disconnect. qbit: lteo: 64.32.24.176 lags
174.143.119.91 does not m0unds: confirmed
64.32.24.176 is dropping about 30% -: qbit was at 58% qbit: CaZe`: irssi? CaZe`: Yeah.
22 packets transmitted, 16 packets received, 27.3% packet loss m0unds: did you just work around that by incrementing your timeout? lteo: for 64.32.24.176 i don't think it's a problem from arp. i also experience packet loss pinging it from elsehwere qbit: k
CaZe`: what setting did you tune? server_connect_timeout? CaZe`: lag_max_before_disconnect
lag_max_before_disconnect = 5min
:/
When I had it set to 30s, my client would disconnect like a dozen times a day. qbit: think i would see lag disconnect msgs tho - vs just .. disconnect
maybe not m0unds: qbit: which OS? qbit: bumped to 10m anyway CaZe`: Yeah, you would. qbit: openbsd 5.4 m0unds: must be an openbsd thing ***: heavysixer_ has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer_ qbit: lteo: you on 5.4 or current? lteo: qbit: current qbit: k CaZe`: I'm on an old snapshot. qbit: my other machine which has always been on snaps was fine
so it could be a 5.4 thing
but other connections are fine lteo: i do drop out occasionally even on current ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
heavysixer_ is now known as heavysixer qbit: well this is workign better ***: xiphias has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) m0unds: do you ask irssi to prefer ipv6? CaZe`: What? qbit: no CaZe`: Oh, my connection was always fine on ipv4.
It only lagged out on ipv6. qbit: does it ipv6 by default? m0unds: err CaZe`: No. m0unds: it's "/set resolve_prefer_ipv6" ***: xiphias has joined #arpnetworks qbit: ah that was on ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) qbit: welp - thanks for the input :) -: qbit feels like it's fixed now qbit: *disconnects*
CaZe`: got a rancillio rocky CaZe`: Are you roasting your own beans yet? qbit: did a few times - pan roasted CaZe`: qbit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDi1X9i40nQ&feature=youtu.be BryceBot: YouTube Howto: "OE LIDO 2 Manual Coffee Grinder Prototype Demo" by orphanespresso (9m 29s), 4,558 views, 39 likes and 0 dislikes. Uploaded 2013-10-17T05:57:06.000Z. qbit: love those guys
there is a guy that does a roasting class up here CaZe`: I got 20 lbs. of Liquid Amber from Sweet Maria's over the summer. qbit: nice CaZe`: I still have over ten pounds of it.
But it took me at least 4 pounds of roasting just to figure out how to roast it.
Actually, maybe more like 2 pounds.
I roast in 1/4 pound batches. qbit: yeah, my first roast was bad - second was eh CaZe`: Well, even once you know what you're doing, there's stuff you have to learn when you change beans. ***: Nyotron has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) qbit: yeah -: qbit does not now that jazz ***: ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks qbit: i like this gronder - fixes a lot of the things i didn't like about the pharos ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer CaZe`: Like what? qbit: larger hopper, isn't weird to hold (iirc you made a mount for yours right?)
i like the bigger grounds chamber too
also this is more portable ***: ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang) CaZe`: wut
I don't have a mount, I just use the pad.
The Rocky is more portable? qbit: nono - i mean i like the lido2 vs the pharos
rocky is not portable. CaZe`: Oh, yeah, I might get it. qbit: sweet CaZe`: I'm always afraid to use my Pharos for anything besides espresso, because I don't want to lose the setting. ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer)
bfft has joined #arpnetworks CaZe`: http://www.home-barista.com/marketplace/orphan-espresso-lido-2-hand-grinder-t27131-130.html m0unds: sweet marias is awesome
i just roasted some yemen ismaili a few mins ago CaZe`: Yeah qbit, you should start roasting regularly. m0unds: you only get better at it w/practice
also helps to write down notes about time to 1st crack, 2nd crack, etc in a notebook or on a computer so you can easily reference what works and what doesn't
i make notes in onenote on my phone, then move it over to excel later qbit: CaZe`: yeah, totally going to CaZe`: You don't have to spend much on a roaster. qbit: yeah, popcorn roaster style? CaZe`: I probably spend like $20 on my roaster, $20 on a thermometer, and $20 on a dimmer.
That's what I started on, but I don't really like hot air poppers.
They tend to roast too fast, leaving the beans acidic. qbit: which roaster do you have now? CaZe`: http://www.kotulas.com/deals/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10602&storeId=10152&productId=38518&langId=-1&srccode=cii_17588969&cpncode=33-243338443-2&Cm_ven=google_pla&Cm_cat=google&Cm_pla=Gifts%2b%2526%2bGadgets%2b%253e%2bGifts%2bfor%2bGals&Cm_ite=39674
I think anything of that general style will work.
I got that at Target for $20.
I just leave out the removable tray, and put the beans in. qbit: heh nice
does 1/4lb at a time? CaZe`: You can get 1/4 lb. to go in one layer.
Yeah, well, I weigh out 95 grams.
It yields 77.5 grams, which I then portion out to 5 15.5 grams doses.
I had to take it apart first though, and short out the thermostat.
It will only allow it to reach 325 degrees or so. qbit: ah CaZe`: It has two holes on each side that allow the handles of the removeable tray to stick out -- I stick a thermometer in through one of the holes.
http://www.sweetmarias.com/sweetmarias/coffee-roasters/roasting-supplies/cooper-550-degree-large-thermometer.html
That one, in fact.
http://www.harborfreight.com/router-speed-control-43060.html
Then I plug it into that to control how much power it's getting.
Oh, and I also got a pair of ove-gloves, because the thing gets really hot. qbit: haha ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer CaZe`: The first thing I did was plug everything into a kill-a-watt, so I could see how what dial position on the router speed control corresponds to 50% power, 25% power, etc.
And after that, it takes some practice to learn what dial position you should be at X minutes into the roast, and such.
But I pretty much just shake it every 10 seconds or so.
And then constantly towards the end. mhoran: Mmm coffee. CaZe`: Right now, I turn it on full power for 1:30, which should get the temperature to 200 or so.
Then I turn it to the lowest position on the dial, which is like 10% power.
And it should coast up to 300° at the 5:00 mark.
Then I turn it to 50% power, which should get it to first crack - 425° around 8:30 or so. qbit: nice CaZe`: Then I turn it down to 15% power, which should make first crack last until 10:30, then a slow and steady climb to second crack - 450° at 12:30. qbit: what's the altitude where you are? CaZe`: ANd I usually let it go at second crack for anywhere between 30s to a minute before dumping it onto a cooling tray.
Sea level.
Once second crack starts, I turn off all power.
I just decide when to dump by how quickly the pops come.
The thing about this is that there's virtually no airflow.
Most roasters control the temperature by varying the amout of airflow -- even drum roasters.
But, that means that with this, you can roast outside no matter how windy or cold it is. qbit: that's nice CaZe`: Anyway, I get better results with this than I did with a hot air popper.
I guess capacity could be an issue.
But I just drink a single shot a day, and I produce five shots in each batch, so it's not a big deal for me.
I think an outdoor burner, and a covered cast iron pan could work pretty well, too.
Your arm might get tired though, from all the shaking that has to be done. qbit: one a day
holy CaZe`: I get jittery if I have more than say, two shots.
Though I can have a 6 oz. cup of drip coffee.
I just like the flavor of a good espresso.
Sometimes if I screw up a roast, and it doesn't make good espresso, I'll brew it as drip.
That usually only happens when I'm roasting a new bean.
Sometimes I think the best part of an espresso shot is the aftertaste.
I'll hold off on brushing my teeth for like 20 minutes after having a shot just so I can enjoy the aftertaste. ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) qbit: lol
nice CaZe`: Anyway, a George Foreman Grill, a panini press, an electric waffle iron, they're all pretty much the same.
Though a waffle iron probably wouldn't work so well. qbit: not as cool as a brownie maker tho CaZe`: You want the irons to be in a shape that will let the beans move around when you shake.
A waffle iron will trap beans in hot spots, as well as cool spots.
And actually, I think a Foreman has a drip edge for letting fat drip out, which will allow beans to scape.
escape
Next time you're in Target or Walmart, just walk down the small cooking appliance aisle, and see what they have.
http://www.hamiltonbeach.com/breakfast-breakfast-sandwich-maker-25475.html
That might be okay.
Not much surface area, though. qbit: i will probably get a popcorn machine from good will or something
will be roastin inside almost always anyway CaZe`: You'll need a good hood.
Whenever I roast inside, I setoff the smoke detector. Everytime. qbit: hm CaZe`: http://www.hamiltonbeach.com/waffle-makers-the-breakfast-master-skillet-and-waffle-maker-26046.html#accessories
That could work really well. qbit: i have a really old waffle iron.. wonder if i could find concave plates for it CaZe`: I'm actually impressed with how long this thing has lasted.
I've used it for two years.
Over a hundred cycles taking it more than 100 degrees above the temperature it was designed to operate at. qbit: looks like this might work - if i flip the waffle pattern over it's nice and flat - has a bean sized lip area CaZe`: No sign of the plastic cracking, though some of the paint's peeled off and bubbled in places. qbit: heh CaZe`: How is it heated? qbit: toaster style
top and bottom CaZe`: Electric? qbit: yes CaZe`: Give it a try, but keep in mind that beans expand a lot when you roast them. qbit: yeah
wooo still have ~1/4 lb of beans CaZe`: http://www.amazon.com/Nordic-Ware-Italian-Frittata-Omelette/dp/B0055FSODU/ref=psdc33_t1_B0001HLWHW_B0055FSODU
Something like that would last forever. BryceBot: Amazon: "Nordic Ware Italian Frittata and Omelette Pan" ***: xiphias has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
xiphias has joined #arpnetworks m0unds: i think the acidity from air poppers really depends on the bean type and roast level ***: xiphias has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) m0unds: because i did probably 15lbs in a toastess air popper, and while i think what i get out of the stovetop popper or gene is better balanced, the only times acidity really stood out was with beans that i would have expected to be more acidic ***: xiphias has joined #arpnetworks CaZe`: How long was the roast? ***: xiphias has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) m0unds: 85g or so, probably 4:30 - much shorter than doing it in the stovetop or gene
usually around 4:30 to full city - temps are appx 450F with an 85g load ***: xiphias has joined #arpnetworks CaZe`: I just dont care for it I guess.
I used a popcorn popper for two years. m0unds: it can impart a weird taste for sure
i noticed that more with my first handful of batches though CaZe`: I did everything from varying the size of the vent holes to control air flow to altering the current that the heating elements receive. m0unds: huh.
which popper did you use, do you remember? CaZe`: I think I just prefer drum roast style.
Nope.
They were all Target specials. m0unds: ah
mine was like $16 on amazon
something like that CaZe`: I don't think I can enjoy anything that roasts in less time than ten minutes.
Closer to 15 is better. m0unds: do you primarily roast for espresso? CaZe`: Yes. ***: xiphias has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) CaZe`: Also, popcorn poppers are hard to use outside when it's cold. ***: xiphias has joined #arpnetworks m0unds: yeah, for sure
i had mine sitting on a work bench near a window ***: robonerd has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
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heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) m0unds: huh, okay. i still have access to jtac downloads for some reaosn.
reason staticsafe: ohai m0unds: word up
my sub lapsed in july, but i can still download software images
weird.
how's it going? staticsafe: nm, just browsing the steam store ***: SpeedBus has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out)
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heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) up_the_irons: lots of discussion early this morning... brycec: So 7am is "early this morning" eh? up_the_irons: why...
yes
very early for me :) m0unds: i used to work late swing shift - i miss 0700 being early, haha brycec: It's certainly earlier than I'm up in the mornings, usually, but not by more than an hour m0unds: i'm usually up by 0615 mst nowadays ***: ant has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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xiphias has joined #arpnetworks CaZe`: Hmm. ***: ant has joined #arpnetworks
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