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[07:03] Nyotron: up_the_irons is staff, as the topic mentions [07:04] usually best to just mention him and ask your question and wait for an answer or submit a ticket if it's a support issue [07:18] *** xiphias has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [07:19] yeah thanks, i just wanted to know if any staff is available. [07:19] *** xiphias has joined #arpnetworks [07:21] anyway, up_the_irons: hello. please let me know when you're around. [07:24] *** qbit has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [07:25] He is the staff. [07:25] *** qbit has joined #arpnetworks [07:25] i got that. [07:27] *** Nyotron has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [07:27] He's the only staff. [07:27] *** Nyotron has joined #arpnetworks [07:27] *** xiphias has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [07:28] *** xiphias has joined #arpnetworks [07:30] his is a lonely job :) [07:30] but at least he's employee #1 each month! [07:30] *** qbit has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:31] *** qbit_ has joined #arpnetworks [07:31] hahaha [07:32] *** qbit_ is now known as qbit [07:33] my company is similar [07:34] i'm employee # 5581 [07:34] at one point I had 3 employees and seven nearly full time contractors [07:34] *** xiphias has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [07:35] *** qbit has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:35] *** xiphias has joined #arpnetworks [07:36] *** qbit has joined #arpnetworks [07:36] *** qbit has quit IRC (Client Quit) [07:36] *** qbit has joined #arpnetworks [07:39] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [07:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [07:41] *** qbit has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:41] *** qbit has joined #arpnetworks [07:46] *** qbit has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:47] *** qbit_ has joined #arpnetworks [07:48] so [07:48] i have issues connecting to irc on one of my hosts - but not the other [07:48] no idea why [07:49] Why did you disconnect? [07:50] not sure [07:50] can't find any info on why it did [07:50] 08:46 [FreeNode] ::: Irssi: Connection lost to irc.freenode.net [07:50] You didn't ping out. [07:51] 18:41:31 [freenode] -!- ERROR Closing Link: 2607:f2f8:a678::2 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [07:51] You don't see anything like that? [07:51] *** qbit_ is now known as qbit [07:51] *** qbit has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:52] *** qbit has joined #arpnetworks [07:52] nope [07:52] nothing [07:52] i get packet loss pinging chat.freenode.net tho [07:53] maybe try another server? [07:53] i get it from the other host as well tho [07:53] but never got disconnectes [07:53] like, try a specific one vs irc.freenode or chat.freenode [07:53] yep - tried [07:53] weird. [07:53] same result [07:54] I get occasional huge spikes in lag over ipv6. [07:54] qbit: which specific one did you ping? i can try from mine too [07:54] I used to have my lag timeout at 30s, and my client would disconnect. [07:54] lteo: 64.32.24.176 lags [07:54] 174.143.119.91 does not [07:54] confirmed [07:54] 64.32.24.176 is dropping about 30% [07:55] * qbit was at 58% [07:55] CaZe`: irssi? [07:55] Yeah. [07:55] 22 packets transmitted, 16 packets received, 27.3% packet loss [07:55] did you just work around that by incrementing your timeout? [07:55] for 64.32.24.176 i don't think it's a problem from arp. i also experience packet loss pinging it from elsehwere [07:56] k [07:56] CaZe`: what setting did you tune? server_connect_timeout? [07:56] lag_max_before_disconnect [07:56] lag_max_before_disconnect = 5min [07:57] :/ [07:57] When I had it set to 30s, my client would disconnect like a dozen times a day. [07:57] think i would see lag disconnect msgs tho - vs just .. disconnect [07:57] maybe not [07:57] qbit: which OS? [07:57] bumped to 10m anyway [07:57] Yeah, you would. [07:57] openbsd 5.4 [07:58] must be an openbsd thing [07:58] *** heavysixer_ has joined #arpnetworks [07:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer_ [07:58] lteo: you on 5.4 or current? [07:58] qbit: current [07:58] k [07:59] I'm on an old snapshot. [08:00] my other machine which has always been on snaps was fine [08:00] so it could be a 5.4 thing [08:00] but other connections are fine [08:00] i do drop out occasionally even on current [08:00] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [08:00] *** heavysixer_ is now known as heavysixer [08:02] well this is workign better [08:02] *** xiphias has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:02] do you ask irssi to prefer ipv6? [08:02] What? [08:02] no [08:03] Oh, my connection was always fine on ipv4. [08:03] It only lagged out on ipv6. [08:03] does it ipv6 by default? [08:03] err [08:03] No. [08:03] it's "/set resolve_prefer_ipv6" [08:03] *** xiphias has joined #arpnetworks [08:04] ah that was on [08:07] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [08:08] welp - thanks for the input :) [08:08] * qbit feels like it's fixed now [08:08] *disconnects* [08:09] CaZe`: got a rancillio rocky [08:10] Are you roasting your own beans yet? [08:11] did a few times - pan roasted [08:11] qbit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDi1X9i40nQ&feature=youtu.be [08:11] YouTube Howto: "OE LIDO 2 Manual Coffee Grinder Prototype Demo" by orphanespresso (9m 29s), 4,558 views, 39 likes and 0 dislikes. Uploaded 2013-10-17T05:57:06.000Z. [08:12] love those guys [08:13] there is a guy that does a roasting class up here [08:13] I got 20 lbs. of Liquid Amber from Sweet Maria's over the summer. [08:13] nice [08:13] I still have over ten pounds of it. [08:13] But it took me at least 4 pounds of roasting just to figure out how to roast it. [08:14] Actually, maybe more like 2 pounds. [08:14] I roast in 1/4 pound batches. [08:14] yeah, my first roast was bad - second was eh [08:14] Well, even once you know what you're doing, there's stuff you have to learn when you change beans. [08:14] *** Nyotron has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [08:15] yeah [08:15] * qbit does not now that jazz [08:15] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [08:15] i like this gronder - fixes a lot of the things i didn't like about the pharos [08:16] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [08:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [08:16] Like what? [08:21] larger hopper, isn't weird to hold (iirc you made a mount for yours right?) [08:21] i like the bigger grounds chamber too [08:23] also this is more portable [08:26] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang) [08:30] wut [08:31] I don't have a mount, I just use the pad. [08:31] The Rocky is more portable? [08:46] nono - i mean i like the lido2 vs the pharos [08:47] rocky is not portable. [08:47] Oh, yeah, I might get it. [08:53] sweet [08:53] I'm always afraid to use my Pharos for anything besides espresso, because I don't want to lose the setting. [08:54] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [08:58] *** bfft has joined #arpnetworks [09:08] http://www.home-barista.com/marketplace/orphan-espresso-lido-2-hand-grinder-t27131-130.html [09:09] sweet marias is awesome [09:10] i just roasted some yemen ismaili a few mins ago [09:14] Yeah qbit, you should start roasting regularly. [09:14] you only get better at it w/practice [09:15] also helps to write down notes about time to 1st crack, 2nd crack, etc in a notebook or on a computer so you can easily reference what works and what doesn't [09:15] i make notes in onenote on my phone, then move it over to excel later [09:17] CaZe`: yeah, totally going to [09:23] You don't have to spend much on a roaster. [09:23] yeah, popcorn roaster style? [09:23] I probably spend like $20 on my roaster, $20 on a thermometer, and $20 on a dimmer. [09:24] That's what I started on, but I don't really like hot air poppers. [09:24] They tend to roast too fast, leaving the beans acidic. [09:25] which roaster do you have now? [09:26] http://www.kotulas.com/deals/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10602&storeId=10152&productId=38518&langId=-1&srccode=cii_17588969&cpncode=33-243338443-2&Cm_ven=google_pla&Cm_cat=google&Cm_pla=Gifts%2b%2526%2bGadgets%2b%253e%2bGifts%2bfor%2bGals&Cm_ite=39674 [09:26] I think anything of that general style will work. [09:26] I got that at Target for $20. [09:27] I just leave out the removable tray, and put the beans in. [09:27] heh nice [09:27] does 1/4lb at a time? [09:27] You can get 1/4 lb. to go in one layer. [09:28] Yeah, well, I weigh out 95 grams. [09:29] It yields 77.5 grams, which I then portion out to 5 15.5 grams doses. [09:29] I had to take it apart first though, and short out the thermostat. [09:29] It will only allow it to reach 325 degrees or so. [09:30] ah [09:31] It has two holes on each side that allow the handles of the removeable tray to stick out -- I stick a thermometer in through one of the holes. [09:31] http://www.sweetmarias.com/sweetmarias/coffee-roasters/roasting-supplies/cooper-550-degree-large-thermometer.html [09:31] That one, in fact. [09:32] http://www.harborfreight.com/router-speed-control-43060.html [09:32] Then I plug it into that to control how much power it's getting. [09:33] Oh, and I also got a pair of ove-gloves, because the thing gets really hot. [09:33] haha [09:35] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [09:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [09:35] The first thing I did was plug everything into a kill-a-watt, so I could see how what dial position on the router speed control corresponds to 50% power, 25% power, etc. [09:36] And after that, it takes some practice to learn what dial position you should be at X minutes into the roast, and such. [09:37] But I pretty much just shake it every 10 seconds or so. [09:37] And then constantly towards the end. [09:39] Mmm coffee. [09:39] Right now, I turn it on full power for 1:30, which should get the temperature to 200 or so. [09:40] Then I turn it to the lowest position on the dial, which is like 10% power. [09:40] And it should coast up to 300° at the 5:00 mark. [09:41] Then I turn it to 50% power, which should get it to first crack - 425° around 8:30 or so. [09:42] nice [09:43] Then I turn it down to 15% power, which should make first crack last until 10:30, then a slow and steady climb to second crack - 450° at 12:30. [09:43] what's the altitude where you are? [09:43] ANd I usually let it go at second crack for anywhere between 30s to a minute before dumping it onto a cooling tray. [09:43] Sea level. [09:45] Once second crack starts, I turn off all power. [09:45] I just decide when to dump by how quickly the pops come. [09:45] The thing about this is that there's virtually no airflow. [09:46] Most roasters control the temperature by varying the amout of airflow -- even drum roasters. [09:47] But, that means that with this, you can roast outside no matter how windy or cold it is. [09:48] that's nice [09:48] Anyway, I get better results with this than I did with a hot air popper. [09:49] I guess capacity could be an issue. [09:50] But I just drink a single shot a day, and I produce five shots in each batch, so it's not a big deal for me. [09:52] I think an outdoor burner, and a covered cast iron pan could work pretty well, too. [09:52] Your arm might get tired though, from all the shaking that has to be done. [09:53] one a day [09:53] holy [09:54] I get jittery if I have more than say, two shots. [09:54] Though I can have a 6 oz. cup of drip coffee. [09:55] I just like the flavor of a good espresso. [09:55] Sometimes if I screw up a roast, and it doesn't make good espresso, I'll brew it as drip. [09:55] That usually only happens when I'm roasting a new bean. [09:58] Sometimes I think the best part of an espresso shot is the aftertaste. [09:59] I'll hold off on brushing my teeth for like 20 minutes after having a shot just so I can enjoy the aftertaste. [09:59] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [09:59] lol [09:59] nice [10:02] Anyway, a George Foreman Grill, a panini press, an electric waffle iron, they're all pretty much the same. [10:03] Though a waffle iron probably wouldn't work so well. [10:03] not as cool as a brownie maker tho [10:03] You want the irons to be in a shape that will let the beans move around when you shake. [10:03] A waffle iron will trap beans in hot spots, as well as cool spots. [10:04] And actually, I think a Foreman has a drip edge for letting fat drip out, which will allow beans to scape. [10:04] escape [10:05] Next time you're in Target or Walmart, just walk down the small cooking appliance aisle, and see what they have. [10:05] http://www.hamiltonbeach.com/breakfast-breakfast-sandwich-maker-25475.html [10:05] That might be okay. [10:05] Not much surface area, though. [10:06] i will probably get a popcorn machine from good will or something [10:06] will be roastin inside almost always anyway [10:06] You'll need a good hood. [10:07] Whenever I roast inside, I setoff the smoke detector. Everytime. [10:09] hm [10:10] http://www.hamiltonbeach.com/waffle-makers-the-breakfast-master-skillet-and-waffle-maker-26046.html#accessories [10:10] That could work really well. [10:13] i have a really old waffle iron.. wonder if i could find concave plates for it [10:16] I'm actually impressed with how long this thing has lasted. [10:16] I've used it for two years. [10:17] Over a hundred cycles taking it more than 100 degrees above the temperature it was designed to operate at. [10:17] looks like this might work - if i flip the waffle pattern over it's nice and flat - has a bean sized lip area [10:18] No sign of the plastic cracking, though some of the paint's peeled off and bubbled in places. [10:18] heh [10:19] How is it heated? [10:20] toaster style [10:20] top and bottom [10:20] Electric? [10:20] yes [10:21] Give it a try, but keep in mind that beans expand a lot when you roast them. [10:21] yeah [10:26] wooo still have ~1/4 lb of beans [10:35] http://www.amazon.com/Nordic-Ware-Italian-Frittata-Omelette/dp/B0055FSODU/ref=psdc33_t1_B0001HLWHW_B0055FSODU [10:36] Something like that would last forever. [10:36] Amazon: "Nordic Ware Italian Frittata and Omelette Pan" [10:36] *** xiphias has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:37] *** xiphias has joined #arpnetworks [10:44] i think the acidity from air poppers really depends on the bean type and roast level [10:44] *** xiphias has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:45] because i did probably 15lbs in a toastess air popper, and while i think what i get out of the stovetop popper or gene is better balanced, the only times acidity really stood out was with beans that i would have expected to be more acidic [10:45] *** xiphias has joined #arpnetworks [10:52] How long was the roast? [10:52] *** xiphias has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:52] 85g or so, probably 4:30 - much shorter than doing it in the stovetop or gene [10:53] usually around 4:30 to full city - temps are appx 450F with an 85g load [10:53] *** xiphias has joined #arpnetworks [10:53] I just dont care for it I guess. [10:53] I used a popcorn popper for two years. [10:53] it can impart a weird taste for sure [10:54] i noticed that more with my first handful of batches though [10:54] I did everything from varying the size of the vent holes to control air flow to altering the current that the heating elements receive. [10:55] huh. [10:55] which popper did you use, do you remember? [10:55] I think I just prefer drum roast style. [10:55] Nope. [10:55] They were all Target specials. [10:55] ah [10:55] mine was like $16 on amazon [10:55] something like that [10:56] I don't think I can enjoy anything that roasts in less time than ten minutes. [10:56] Closer to 15 is better. [10:56] do you primarily roast for espresso? [10:56] Yes. [10:58] *** xiphias has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:59] Also, popcorn poppers are hard to use outside when it's cold. [10:59] *** xiphias has joined #arpnetworks [11:03] yeah, for sure [11:03] i had mine sitting on a work bench near a window [11:37] *** robonerd has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [11:42] *** robonerd has joined #arpnetworks [12:10] *** N3RG4L has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded) [12:11] *** N3RG4L has joined #arpnetworks [12:34] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [12:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [13:14] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [14:05] huh, okay. i still have access to jtac downloads for some reaosn. [14:05] reason [14:05] ohai [14:05] word up [14:05] my sub lapsed in july, but i can still download software images [14:05] weird. [14:06] how's it going? [14:07] nm, just browsing the steam store [15:06] *** SpeedBus has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [15:06] *** mhoran1 has joined #arpnetworks [15:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mhoran1 [15:06] *** mhoran has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:07] *** tmarble has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:07] *** tmarble has joined #arpnetworks [15:14] *** SpeedBus has joined #arpnetworks [15:14] *** SpeedBus has quit IRC (Changing host) [15:14] *** SpeedBus has joined #arpnetworks [15:28] *** TheHiTCH_ has quit IRC () [15:28] *** TheHiTCHO has joined #arpnetworks [15:39] *** Rope has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [16:50] *** mhoran1 is now known as mhoran [17:14] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [17:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [17:24] *** r0ni has joined #arpnetworks [17:34] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [18:50] lots of discussion early this morning... [18:51] So 7am is "early this morning" eh? [18:51] why... [18:51] yes [18:51] very early for me :) [18:56] i used to work late swing shift - i miss 0700 being early, haha [19:33] It's certainly earlier than I'm up in the mornings, usually, but not by more than an hour [19:34] i'm usually up by 0615 mst nowadays [20:30] *** ant has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:30] *** xiphias has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:30] *** NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:30] *** RandalSchwartz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:30] *** staticsafe-znc has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:30] *** staticsafe-znc has joined #arpnetworks [20:30] *** NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks [20:33] *** xiphias has joined #arpnetworks [20:42] Hmm. 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