#arpnetworks 2013-12-22,Sun

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LLKCKfanI was wanting to know if there is a way to find out why my computer is acting like it is on dailup when I am on cable and getting my full speed [15:50]
mercutiothat's a very open ended question
is dns resolution slow?
is it windows or linux or os x or what
basically i'd check ping first, then check dns, then check cpu usage, then check hard-disk performance
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LLKCKfancdablre
It is cable
windows
ping is 0
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brycecAlso what does this have to do with ARP Networks? [16:46]
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mercutiobrycec: nothing really, but nothign else ios happening
but yeah it's probably a bit too far off-topic, and not generally intersting or anything
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LLKCKfanHello [20:05]
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brycecyeah mercutio, my thoughts exactly. [20:12]
mercutioi've been playing with zfs on ssd
is that general interest?
it's still slower than btrfs or ext4 for read speeds :(
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brycecUnder what OS? [20:14]
mercutiolinux
i got 3x samsung evo 840
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brycecSo could just be the Linux ZFS implementation :P [20:14]
mercutiocould be [20:14]
brycec(Fuse, right?) [20:14]
mercutionope
it went past fuse ages ago
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brycecah [20:15]
mercutioi'm at about 1.2 gigabytes/sec though
and i got it up to 1.4 gigabytse/sec before
but ext4/btrfs on mdadm or on btrfs raid got up to 1.5 to 1.6gb/sec read speed
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brycecThat seems faster than the bus should handle. [20:15]
mercutiobus should handle 2 gigabytes/sec
minus overheads
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brycec@wa 6gbps to gb/s [20:15]
BryceBotconvert 6 Gb/s (gigabits per second) to gigabytes per second;0.75 GB/s (gigabytes per second);6×10^9 b/s (bits per second);750 MB/s (megabytes per second);= SATA revision 3.0 speed ( 6 Gb/s );~~ 1.2 × OC96 speed ( 4.977×10^9 b/s );~~ 1.2 × USB 3.0 speed ( 4800 Mb/s );information rate;[time]^(-1) [information];Time to transfer 1 gigabyte:, ->1.3 seconds, ->0.022 minutes;Time to transfer 1 terabyte:, ->1333 seconds, ->22 minutes [20:15]
brycec^ [20:16]
mercutiothis is 3 ssd's
each on 6 gigabit ports
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brycecAhhh so 3*.75GB/s [20:16]
mercutioeach ssd can do 500mb/sec+ on it's own [20:16]
brycec*its :p [20:16]
mercutioit's hard to benchmark though
being evos they have fast write at the beginning but not after writing more data
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brycecSo secure erase every time? [20:17]
mercutiobut in real world access you're not likely to write more than the fast speed often aynway
nah i'm not doing anything liek taht :/
i was mostly concerned about read speed aynway
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brycecheh [20:17]
mercutiobut then i decided to compare linux kernel compile time [20:18]
brycecI've done that before :) [20:18]
mercutioand other such things
curiously lz4 is faster than non lz4
even on amazingly fast ssd's
doing 100% cpu
but basically zfs is slightly slower
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brycec19s was my record (lvm mirror with 2 SATA3 SSDs that max at 500-600 read, -j12) [20:18]
mercutiobut < 1 % with lz4 compression
and just over 1% without lz4 compression
19s to do what exactly?
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brycecmake defconfig && make [20:19]
mercutiowow
what cpu speed was that?
my kernel compile times went up at some point
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brycecIntel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400 CPU @ 3.10GHz
and 16Gb
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mercutiobut it's like 2:07 for zfs [20:20]
brycec*16GB RAM [20:20]
mercutiowhat
i'm on i7-4770
what does defconfig enable?
i'm using my standard kernel
i used to be just under 2 minutes
but yeh if it's minor difference it doesn't really matter
and lz4 uses up less space :)
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brycecNo idea really... Just "defaults" as determined by Linus and firends. [20:21]
mercutioand it seems raidz gives good enough performance [20:21]
brycec*friends [20:21]
mercutioso i don't really need to use raid 10
because most things on linux don't do parallel i/o
and raid10 doesn't really speed up serial i/o
it just means that it doesn't slow down as much when doing parallel i/o
but ssd's don't really slow down that much with parallel i/o anytway
maybe it was an old kernel
i used to have 15 minute compile times on a 486 i think
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brycecWow really? My 486DX2 took 2 hours [20:23]
mercutiomaybe i was imaginging things [20:23]
brycec(compiling some old 2.2 kernel, IDE drive...) [20:23]
mercutioweird
oh maybe it was 40 minutes, and then 15 minutes when i
oh hangon
this was 2.1 kernel
like 2.1.110
so that looks like crica 98
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brycecMy 486 died when I moved :( [20:24]
mercutiodamn
i going to see if it still compiles :/
it's not much gbigigger than current patches :/
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brycecGood luck :) [20:25]
mercutioMakefile:160: arch/x86_64/Makefile: No such file or directory
ho hmm
% ls -l arch/
alpha/ arm/ i386/ m68k/ mips/ ppc/ sparc/ sparc64/
i need a 32 bit distro
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m0undsi'm so used to using x64 arch that when i had to reimage something with a 32-bit cpu, i didn't have a compatible image for it [20:41]
mercutioi found some old distribution
i'm hoping i can extract binaries from it :)
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m0undshaha, good luck [20:44]
mercutiobin/zsh: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (QMAGIC)
doesn't seem to want to chroot and run that :/
i assume that's a.out
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