aka 'kitkat'
i think that box was just advertising both sizes
OH
i see what it is
http://bestfreesamples.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/free-kit-kat-minis-king-size-at-kum-and-go.jpg?b570f5
that makes sense
mnathani: re: the email stuff from the other night, if you're interested in a hosted caldav/carddav system, fruux.com
m0unds: Thanks
I am looking forward to:
https://twitter.com/FastMailFM/status/393138107505070080
TWITTER: @bisonwrestling1 @mngeek We're working CardDAV/CalDAV now. Hopefully launch by the end of the year. (Wed Oct 23 22:13:23 +0000 2013, in reply to @bisonwrestling1)
I am really liking FastMail. Really wish I knew about it earlier
They support muliple domains, as well as catch all and DKIM by default out of the box
but catch all,  is generally frowned upon :)
do they support imap?
or is it web only
didn't fastmail blame apple pretty horribly only to redact it pretty recently?
cool
blame apple for what?
existing?
Apple mail “bug” turns out to be user script after all
http://blog.fastmail.fm/2013/10/29/apple-mail-bug-turns-out-to-be-user-script-after-all/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/31/mavericks_mails_spamspewing_flaw_was_scripted_by_redfaced_user/
apparently apple don't use the MOVE command
mercutio: They do support IMAP
mail.app is really hit and miss
They announce 20 second outages when they update their imap server code
that's cool
i didn't know that fastmail was australian
mnathani: seems that way
do they use dovecot?
I know they use smamAssassin, not sure what IMAP impelementation they use
i can't believe how much more worthwhile i considered imap after finding dovecot ;)
/s/smamAssassin/spamassassin
% telnet imap.fastmail.net 143
Trying 66.111.4.54...
Trying 66.111.4.53...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
try ssl
^
what port is that?
993?
i think that's it
nope
it would be encrypted.
that's imaps
oh
they don't listen to pop either
wtf
maybe it's not imap.fastmail.net
Server: mail.messagingengine.com
is fastmail.fm the same thing?
it is
dspam > spamassassin
bah
i cran't use telnet with ssl
mail.messagingengine.com
yeah i'm on there
ssl is required
got it
technically you could provide your public / private key and wireshark it. But thats beyond my scope
doesn't look like dovecoot
 openssl s_client -connect mail.messagingengine.com:995
do that for pop3-
Checkout https://www.fastmail.fm/help/remote_email_access_server_names_and_ports.html For all their services, ports and server names
i think it's courier imap
oh it's cyrus
https://www.fastmail.fm/help/technology_fastmail_technology.html
yeah, one of fm's founders is/was a frequent contributor to cyrus and some perl projects and stuff
credit to staticsafe for introducting me to fastmail
interesting
i want better limiting support in mutt
so i can limit then limit the limit
but that's really my main gripe with email :/
with mutt and imap you can do limit by a full text search :/
well if you use something like solr