#arpnetworks 2013-12-04,Wed

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hazardousaka 'kitkat' [00:40]
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phluxi think that box was just advertising both sizes
OH
i see what it is
http://bestfreesamples.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/free-kit-kat-minis-king-size-at-kum-and-go.jpg?b570f5
that makes sense
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m0undsmnathani: re: the email stuff from the other night, if you're interested in a hosted caldav/carddav system, fruux.com [18:09]
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mnathanim0unds: Thanks
I am looking forward to:
https://twitter.com/FastMailFM/status/393138107505070080
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BryceBotTWITTER: @bisonwrestling1 @mngeek We're working CardDAV/CalDAV now. Hopefully launch by the end of the year. (Wed Oct 23 22:13:23 +0000 2013, in reply to @bisonwrestling1) [20:30]
mnathaniI am really liking FastMail. Really wish I knew about it earlier
They support muliple domains, as well as catch all and DKIM by default out of the box
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jpalmerbut catch all, is generally frowned upon :) [20:32]
mercutiodo they support imap?
or is it web only
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jbergstroemdidn't fastmail blame apple pretty horribly only to redact it pretty recently? [20:39]
mercutiocool [20:40]
m0undsblame apple for what? [20:40]
mercutioexisting? [20:40]
mnathaniApple mail “bug” turns out to be user script after all
http://blog.fastmail.fm/2013/10/29/apple-mail-bug-turns-out-to-be-user-script-after-all/
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m0undshttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/31/mavericks_mails_spamspewing_flaw_was_scripted_by_redfaced_user/ [20:40]
mercutioapparently apple don't use the MOVE command [20:41]
mnathanimercutio: They do support IMAP [20:41]
m0undsmail.app is really hit and miss [20:41]
mnathaniThey announce 20 second outages when they update their imap server code [20:41]
m0undsthat's cool [20:42]
mercutioi didn't know that fastmail was australian
mnathani: seems that way
do they use dovecot?
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mnathaniI know they use smamAssassin, not sure what IMAP impelementation they use [20:42]
mercutioi can't believe how much more worthwhile i considered imap after finding dovecot ;) [20:43]
mnathani/s/smamAssassin/spamassassin [20:43]
mercutio% telnet imap.fastmail.net 143
Trying 66.111.4.54...
Trying 66.111.4.53...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
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mnathanitry ssl [20:43]
m0unds^ [20:43]
mercutiowhat port is that? [20:43]
m0unds993?
i think that's it
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mercutionope [20:43]
mnathaniit would be encrypted. [20:43]
mercutiothat's imaps [20:43]
m0undsoh [20:44]
mercutiothey don't listen to pop either
wtf
maybe it's not imap.fastmail.net
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mnathaniServer: mail.messagingengine.com [20:44]
mercutiois fastmail.fm the same thing? [20:44]
mnathaniit is [20:44]
jpalmerdspam > spamassassin [20:44]
mercutiobah
i cran't use telnet with ssl
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m0undsmail.messagingengine.com [20:45]
mercutioyeah i'm on there [20:45]
m0undsssl is required [20:46]
mercutiogot it [20:46]
mnathanitechnically you could provide your public / private key and wireshark it. But thats beyond my scope [20:46]
mercutiodoesn't look like dovecoot
openssl s_client -connect mail.messagingengine.com:995
do that for pop3-
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mnathaniCheckout https://www.fastmail.fm/help/remote_email_access_server_names_and_ports.html For all their services, ports and server names [20:47]
mercutioi think it's courier imap
oh it's cyrus
https://www.fastmail.fm/help/technology_fastmail_technology.html
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m0undsyeah, one of fm's founders is/was a frequent contributor to cyrus and some perl projects and stuff [20:49]
mnathanicredit to staticsafe for introducting me to fastmail [20:50]
mercutiointeresting
i want better limiting support in mutt
so i can limit then limit the limit
but that's really my main gripe with email :/
with mutt and imap you can do limit by a full text search :/
well if you use something like solr
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