up_the_irons: mnathani: there is no standard way to uninstall a package installed in such a manner. Sometimes, the Makefile author will include something so "make uninstall" will work
phlux: Happy Thanksgiving Pilgrims
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mnathani: Not sure if we can talk about 'the competition' in here, but hostgator is having a 75% off black friday sale
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https://signup.hostgator.com/hg4/reseller-7-1-BFFIRE
m0unds: hostgator = instant headache
mnathani: I am not liking them requiring upfront payment for 3 years to take advantage of their deals
Gigabit uplink with a guaranteed 20mbit connection, like that is something to be proud of : 20 mbit
m0unds: if it was unmetered 20mbit, thatd be cool
their abuse staff are really fast to respond
i imagine their network is like a zoo, hahaha
mercutio: i wouldn't recommend hostgator for web hosting
it's pretty variable depending on what server you're on for performance
but they have silly php memory limits etc
their bandwidth isn't that bad though
it's mostly their processing of pages that sucks :/
i'm also basically against guaranteeing bandwidth on commodity services
m0unds: too big a company
mercutio: as when it is done it's always in the case of no unusual network situations
which excludes things like cogent routing issues, nad ddos attacks
which are two of the leading causes of degredation
m0unds: thats why service agreements are supposed to be read
mercutio: i love 100% sla's
you read the sla, and it's like in the case of outage, what can they give you
and it's like they'll nbever give you more than you pay monthly or whatever
if someone reallt trusts their service they should compensate at least 5x
how much you pay
m0unds: yeah, financially backed prorated based on the duration of outage relative to your monthly sub
mercutio: so in the end i ignore sla's
and figure that it's better to have other options
but then i also don't really care about 5 minutes downtime etc some people do
i'm more concerned about 5 hours downtime etc
hazardous: mnathani: i think like
99% of the people in this channel know what they want
and horrendously shitty cpanel shared hosting
may not be this demographic's target
:^)
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