up_the_irons: i've also remapped ctrl / caps
been that way for ages ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
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ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer avj: the hardest thing about learning hjkl was training myself to put my middle finger on the j instead of the k twobithacker: So is the other hand on asdf or sdfg? avj: asdf mkb: Is that what people do? I just move my index finger when I want to go back. avj: yeah, i just slide my four fingers one key to the left twobithacker: I was never properly trained to touch type, I don't really think about where my hands rest ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) mike-burns: My middle finger is on the k, though I don't use h much.
I'd rather type backspace for some reason. plett: I seem to use both arrow keys and hjkl, but search or move by blocks in vi more often using either ***: izamotina has joined #arpnetworks avj: mkb, i see what you mean now. dammit, that does seem easier.
i guess i'm probably the only idiot that does what i described ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
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qbit has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) brycec: :| having that oh-so-fun MTU issue over ipv6
(and I've misplaced toddf's MTU discovery script, oops) ***: qbit has joined #arpnetworks brycec: Hm, nothing but HE in my mtr qbit: woo brycec: Aww irclog ftw, but pastebin expired the post
But it's resolved itself, so... okay. ***: raptelan has joined #arpnetworks
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ThalinVien has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) brycec: I spoke way too soon... Seems tmux was having its own problems though. ***: kontaktk has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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r0ni has joined #arpnetworks brycec: Hey up_the_irons, just curious: The backup host has a public IPv6 address (that I can ping), just as it has a public IPv4 address, yet SSH isn't listening to the IPv6 address (where it IS listening to the IPv4 address). What's the reasoning behind this? RandalSchwartz: did you enable ipv6 listening?
that's not on by default, as I recall brycec: RandalSchwartz: the backup host DOES listen to IPv6
I can hit its private IPv6 address with SSH RandalSchwartz: you have something like ListenAddress [2607:f2f8:3080::]:443 -: brycec has a dedicated vlan/second interface to the backup host brycec: RandalSchwartz: this isn't my machine, this is ARP's backup service host. RandalSchwartz: oh!
sorry
I know nothing of this :) brycec: So it's up_the_irons' config. And I'm just wondering why he did it a certain way. up_the_irons: there's probably no valid reason; i overlooked it? brycec: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/main/do-you-provide-backup-services up_the_irons: or rather, we prefer doing direct VLAN IPv6 over link-local brycec: Sure. My question was simply "if ipv4 can be used "publicly" why can't ipv6"
which I suppose you've answered up_the_irons: avj: mkb twobithacker : i move my finger to the left. my fingers are on "jkl;"
brycec: i'd rather do direct VLAN over IPv4 also, but that is somewhat burdensome since IPv4 doesn't really have that concept out-of-the-box (no link-local in IPv4) mkb: I could finish learning Dvorak and then I don't know what I'd do. brycec: touche up_the_irons
up_the_irons: on a related note, if you don't want your customers using your backup service from outisde/non-ARP hosts, you should make a mention of that (and/or firewall) up_the_irons: it's not really a big itch right now ***: ThalinVien has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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staticsafe-znc has joined #arpnetworks toddf: brycec: its been mentioned before (outside access of the backup service) and the pros to keeping it open include 'charging for storage even for non arp hosts in theory generates revenue' and 'recovery of backups remotely might be useful'