mnathani: i use h j k l
i've also remapped ctrl / caps
been that way for ages
the hardest thing about learning hjkl was training myself to put my middle finger on the j instead of the k
So is the other hand on asdf or sdfg?
asdf
Is that what people do? I just move my index finger when I want to go back.
yeah, i just slide my four fingers one key to the left
I was never properly trained to touch type, I don't really think about where my hands rest
My middle finger is on the k, though I don't use h much.
I'd rather type backspace for some reason.
I seem to use both arrow keys and hjkl, but search or move by blocks in vi more often using either
mkb, i see what you mean now. dammit, that does seem easier.
i guess i'm probably the only idiot that does what i described
:| having that oh-so-fun MTU issue over ipv6
(and I've misplaced toddf's MTU discovery script, oops)
Hm, nothing but HE in my mtr
woo
Aww irclog ftw, but pastebin expired the post
But it's resolved itself, so... okay.
I spoke way too soon... Seems tmux was having its own problems though.
Hey up_the_irons, just curious: The backup host has a public IPv6 address (that I can ping), just as it has a public IPv4 address, yet SSH isn't listening to the IPv6 address (where it IS listening to the IPv4 address). What's the reasoning behind this?
did you enable ipv6 listening?
that's not on by default, as I recall
RandalSchwartz: the backup host DOES listen to IPv6
I can hit its private IPv6 address with SSH
you have something like ListenAddress [2607:f2f8:3080::]:443
RandalSchwartz: this isn't my machine, this is ARP's backup service host.
oh!
sorry
I know nothing of this :)
So it's up_the_irons' config. And I'm just wondering why he did it a certain way.
there's probably no valid reason; i overlooked it?
http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/main/do-you-provide-backup-services
or rather, we prefer doing direct VLAN IPv6 over link-local
Sure. My question was simply "if ipv4 can be used "publicly" why can't ipv6"
which I suppose you've answered
avj: mkb twobithacker : i move my finger to the left.  my fingers are on "jkl;"
brycec: i'd rather do direct VLAN over IPv4 also, but that is somewhat burdensome since IPv4 doesn't really have that concept out-of-the-box (no link-local in IPv4)
I could finish learning Dvorak and then I don't know what I'd do.
touche up_the_irons
up_the_irons: on a related note, if you don't want your customers using your backup service from outisde/non-ARP hosts, you should make a mention of that (and/or firewall)
it's not really a big itch right now
brycec: its been mentioned before (outside access of the backup service) and the pros to keeping it open include 'charging for storage even for non arp hosts in theory generates revenue' and 'recovery of backups remotely might be useful'