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RandalSchwartz: heavysixer needs a more stable net connection
or to turn off autojoin
heavysixer: RandalSchwartz: sorry for the flooding.
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brycec: Since they're quit messages, it's probably not a connection issue.
RandalSchwartz: Hmm.
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brycec: wb heavysixer
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heavysixer: brycec: thx you
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RandalSchwartz: Sunrise... sunset...
and heavysixer slams through the revolving door :)
brycec: lol
RandalSchwartz: I say "slams" to relate to "heavy" :)
brycec: clever. Also, it's really hard to "slam" a revolving door :p
RandalSchwartz: you obviously have never tried to go the wrong way around in a left-side-of-road country :)
very painful
brycec: hahaha, I've yet to visit such a country
RandalSchwartz: Yeah... and sidewalk standards vary as well. In Australia, most people hang right on the sidewalk, although in England, they hang left. Weird.
brycec: And around here people are just all over the sidewalks and in the aisles and malls... Annoys the hell out of me.
RandalSchwartz: "here"?
brycec: I live in Eastern Washington
RandalSchwartz: ahh. not far from me, in the grand scheme of things
<<== beaverton, oregon
brycec: Yep, less than a day's drive anyways
And yet, a world of difference - inland PNW is a very kind of people than out West. Essentially blue vs red.
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RandalSchwartz: heavysixer - are you trying to set the record for number of joins/quits in a day?
heavysixer: RandalSchwartz: i am working across several machines and when this machine goes idle the connection drops.
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RandalSchwartz: and there's the demo
we should teach heavysixer about tmux :)
jbergstroem: mosh is pretty good for maintaining sessions, especially with higher latencies
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RandalSchwartz: dunno mosh, googling
Oooh.
jbergstroem: (i usually do mosh and tmux)
RandalSchwartz: oooh. there's a macports client
now I just need to see if I can build the freebsd server
jbergstroem: brew install mobile-shell works too
RandalSchwartz: I tried brew for a while... didn't like it
can't exactly remember why, but I gave up
Oh crap. depends on a perl module that depends on a newer perl than I have available
can't do that without some downtime. I'm avoiding the problem soon by jumping to a new server to start with FreeBSD 9.2 and build everything from scratch
jbergstroem: fbsd10 isn't too far away, right?
RandalSchwartz: well - I'm on 8.3, and a jump to 9.2 might already be shaky :)
Hmm. Might be able to cheat by using BSDPAN, installing the dependent module, and then removing that from the other dependency
since the module will in fact be there.
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RandalSchwartz: ok - my fakeout is apparently working
at least, I'm *building* mosh :)
Yeay - mosh works!
Oooh, and it connected easily with my tmux session
awesome
so I'm now typing via mosh into the preexisting tmux
this should help with cruise ship latency issues
eww... it freaks out over my C-^ usage
it does The Right Thing, but adds a meta-message during the hit
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brycec: mosh is nice, but it takes a big chunk of memory, so I don't use it unless I need to
RandalSchwartz: wow... that was cool
just closed my laptop at the restaurant, then opened it back up at home, and the screen refreshed!
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brycec: Yep, it's mind blowing.
RandalSchwartz: too bad it doesn't support tunnels too
although that would take even cooler protocols :)
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mnathani: to vi users: do you guys use the arrow keys to navigate or H J K L ?
meingtsla: Arrow keys if I have a choice
brycec: ^
Or more often than that, I search or seek directly to the line number
RandalSchwartz: I learned long before arrow keys *existed*
so hjkl for sure
mnathani: the tutorial I was going through today suggests the hjkl combination is faster
RandalSchwartz: in fact, it was a long time before I trusted those arrow keys to do the right thing
mnathani: although I am having difficulty training my fingers to use the hjkl to work correctly
RandalSchwartz: play some nethack for a while :)
mnathani: seems like this game requires a lot more brain power than I thought :-)
CaZe: hjkl works better if you bind caps lock to esc.
brycec: hjkl is definitely "quicker" on account of your fingers never leaving the homerow (on qwerty)
mnathani: is there a vim config that will bind caps lock to esc only within vim?
hazardous: hi everypony