Hello. If i am not mistaken, there is somebody running a company with bsd shell here before..free shell. Who is that person again? I need to find free hosting for bnc :/ Any recommendation? did I miss anything I've not heard of anyone @ ARP doing that, anisfarhana (And the only BSD shell host I know doesn't allow the running of bouncers, and they're very selective (currently closed) about who they accept. So I'm not going to bother mentioning them.) yeah a lot of paid stuff even won't let IRC, never mind free stuff; the potential for abuse is just too great find a friend with a linux box on a cable modem or something I've heard of online bouncer hosts, but they are usually pay and only give access to a bouncer, not a shell. I don't see why you don't just run a bouncer on your ARP VPS :P (Very quick and easy to setup, only 5 minutes' of install and configuration.) brycec is it mischevio.us (obviously not this nae) just wondering if i guessed right any support staff around? hazardous: obviously, since he runs it :) i just had to deal with someone else's code where it mixed spaces, 4 spaces, indents and spaces (tabs), tab only some on the same line hazardous: you referring to devio.us? Man, I've been there... All because they used Windows editors too. It all looked the same to them, but I pulled it up in my editor of choice and it all fell apart. (Also I don't "run" it, I'm just an extra pair of sysadmin hands) brycec: don't get me started on \r \n \r\n \n\r lolwtf \n\r?? yeah. (wtflol) That's... not even a thing. it's like.. two newlines or something i've seen it and just ewnt "wtf" after 30 min of debugging also, something i've found is that copy pasting from chrome or chromium may insert a silent RTL character which completely fucks up things er LTR* lololol