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Bluerise has joined #arpnetworks hazardous: staticsafe: what is top posting staticsafe: posting your reply about the original message
above* hazardous: weird, thats not how it works? staticsafe: no
why would you think that was logical? brycec: On email lists in particular, it's etiquette to bottom-post so that your reponse is read after the question.
Though the norm, through laziness and default email client configuration, and therefore the norm in the business world, is to top-post. hazardous: i was confused about that because people randomly top and bottomp ost and it's obnoxious to tread through mailing lists with quoting
and my email client by default cursors at the top above the reply
same with webmail clients and all that staticsafe: unfortunately yeah :( ***: first2know has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks avj: i think it's common in the business world because it retains the entire discussion for ease of later forwarding or including others in discussion...as well, of course, as being the outlook default
i'll occasionally break out by replying with something like "comments inline below" where it makes sense to insert them inline ***: first2know has joined #arpnetworks brycec: Sure inline comments are perfectly acceptable (sometimes even preferred).
But I don't see how top-p[os
damnit keyboard...
But I don't see how bottom-posting fails to preserve the conversation avj: if you keep the entire thread intact, sure
but it's more common to include only the parts relevant to what you're replying brycec: I think the differentiation is business email: People are lazy, go with the default, don't usually bother to cutout the 100-message long trail. list mail: People are compelled to follow the rules and go to the effort of a succinct reply avj: instead of having to forward twenty previous emails from a discussion where that has happened, the habit with top-posting is to preserve the entire discussion below
that's likely true
i find top-posting on lists awful if it's anything other than a quick response to something
but again, if everyone followed the same behavior in work emails as mailing lists, to bring someone up to speed on a discussion i'd have to forward many emails instead of one
so in this use case, it serves me well brycec: Of course forwarding the full email chain is very easy in some email clients (eg Gmail) ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer)
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rgouveia has joined #arpnetworks mnathani: up_the_irons: Thanks! I wonder how long before I am CCNP certified staticsafe: mnathani: CCNP is like 3 exams :( mnathani: staticsafe: right.
I am hoping to complete them within a year staticsafe: good luck! mnathani: Thanks :-) ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer)
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doomviking has joined #arpnetworks nesta: mnathani && staticsafe; would CCNA(not CCNP) be very difficult with someone with absolutely no prior Cisco experience(or any experience in related fields) but with a good grasp oF *nix knowledge?
in your opinions of course :) staticsafe: no not really
but you should read up on the material nesta: yeah I am planning on that
I have just over a month before it starts
I'm quite nervous :X ***: r0ni has joined #arpnetworks
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ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer mnathani: nesta: CCNA is the associate level, so it gives you like an introduction to all the basic topics. You can do most of the labs using PacketTracer software by cisco. Should not be too difficult if you already command line driven with *nix knowledge. nesta: okay thanks mnathani. I'm a command line junkie on *nix but some of the terminology and stuff with the Cisco threw me off a bit
but I suppose *nix did the same when I first encountered it :-) ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) mnathani: up_the_irons: Do you have any cisco / juniper certs? ***: r0ni has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
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