our hackerspace ( http://dhmn.net ) handles membership dues via paypal - but unfortunately they have weird limits like max of $500 moved out of the account over some time period. we're exploring other options mikeputnam: link a debit card and bank account and all withdrawal limits (like 500 / mo) is removed, however personally i have a persistent stop payment for thebank account on any transactions originating from paypal because fuck paypal. they are dickwads but it's still "convenient" yeah. for the payee. I dare say more convenient for the payer, presuming they have a paypal account already setup. Just a few clicks and bam, you're $ poorer. I made butter tea hot water + butter? brycec: oh right. i miss-thought. payer, not payee. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butter_tea Butter tea :: Butter tea, also known as po cha (Tibetan: བོད་ཇ་, Wylie: bod ja, "Tibetan tea"), cha süma (Tibetan: ཇ་སྲུབ་མ་, Wylie: ja srub ma, "churned tea"), Mandarin Chinese: sūyóu chá (酥油茶) or goor goor in local Ladakhi terms, is a drink of the Tibetans and Chinese minorities in southwestern China. It is also consumed in Bhutan. It is made from tea leaves, yak butter, and salt. Butter tea Drinki so hot water + butter + tea leaves :P And salt. I drink "bulletproof tea" which is tea plus a tablespoon of coconut oil Well, you take out the tea leaves before adding everything else. Then you froth everything together. RandalSchwartz: what is bullet proof about the coconut oil? :) it's named after the bulletproof coffee that the bulletproof executive makes i c hi everypony hi hazardous sup